Hmm...I didn't even know XP had a built-in firewall. Any bets on how
long it is before other companies with software firewall products bring
suit against Microsoft for bundling a firewall in the OS?
--
No clue, but I can tell you how long it will last before ISP helpdesks
disable
on 8/14/2003 9:29 AM Sean Donelan wrote:
John Markoff reports in the New York Times that Microsoft plans to change
how it ships Windows XP due to the worm. In the future Microsoft will
ship both business and consumer verisons of Windows XP with the included
firewall enabled by default.
Apple have the right idea... I'd say all the vendors need to take a
carefully balanced approach to security in the default configurations of
their software. Leave services exposed to the network disabled by default,
where possible.
By all means, configure firewalls by default to block all
At 10:46 AM 8/14/2003, Joshua Sahala wrote:
Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Markoff reports in the New York Times that Microsoft plans to change
how it ships Windows XP due to the worm. In the future Microsoft will
ship both business and consumer verisons of Windows XP with the
However the new microsoft policy will help protect the network from Joe
and Jane average who buy a PC from the closest big box store and hook it
up to their cable modem so they can exchange pictures of the kids with the
grandparents in Fla. This is the class of users who botnet builders
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Jack Bates wrote:
John Neiberger wrote:
Hmm...I didn't even know XP had a built-in firewall. Any bets on how
long it is before other companies with software firewall products bring
suit against Microsoft for bundling a firewall in the OS?
--
No clue, but I can
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Eric A. Hall wrote:
Wouldn't it make more sense to ship with all of the services disabled?
I mean, if the role of the firewall is to block packets to weak services,
wouldn't it be simpler to just disable the damn services since they aren't
going to be usable anyway?
Richard Cox wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 16:07 UTC, Eric A. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Wouldn't it make more sense to ship with all of the services disabled?
Yes it would - at least to US - but that would inevitably create a load
for the Support desk. However as Microsoft charge for
The checkpoint and Pix Boxen are what we use here. But we also use
ipchains to secure things at a host level.
Scott C. McGrath
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Drew Weaver wrote:
ipchains and similar firewalls are indeed far superior. I manage real
firewalls as part of
On donderdag, aug 14, 2003, at 17:45 Europe/Amsterdam, Christopher L.
Morrow wrote:
No answer on that one, However Mac OS X also includes a built in
firewall.
yes, with fairly a simple method to add listening services to it...
though
it seems the 'listening service' might have to register
John Neiberger wrote:
Hmm...I didn't even know XP had a built-in firewall. Any bets on how
long it is before other companies with software firewall products bring
suit against Microsoft for bundling a firewall in the OS?
--
No clue, but I can tell you how long it will last before
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On the configuration angle, the Microsoft ICF (Internet Connection
Firewall) blocks everything by default.
as does OSX.
Just to clarify, the OSX firewall has a little bit of sense. If you check
that you want to enable one of the services
From: Scott McGrath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
No answer on that one, However Mac OS X also includes a built in firewall.
On the configuration angle, the Microsoft ICF (Internet Connection
Firewall) blocks everything by default.
I just worked on a friends computer last night.
The XP ICF
Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/14/03 8:29:07 AM
John Markoff reports in the New York Times that Microsoft plans to
change
how it ships Windows XP due to the worm. In the future Microsoft
will
ship both business and consumer verisons of Windows XP with the
included
firewall enabled by
ipchains and similar firewalls are indeed far superior. I manage real
firewalls as part of my responsibilities.
However the new microsoft policy will help protect the network from Joe
and Jane average who buy a PC from the closest big box store and hook it
up to their cable modem so they can
John Neiberger wrote:
Hmm...I didn't even know XP had a built-in firewall. Any bets on how
long it is before other companies with software firewall products bring
suit against Microsoft for bundling a firewall in the OS?
--
No clue, but I can tell you how long it will last before ISP helpdesks
Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Markoff reports in the New York Times that Microsoft plans to change
how it ships Windows XP due to the worm. In the future Microsoft will
ship both business and consumer verisons of Windows XP with the included
firewall enabled by default.
At 12:07 PM 8/14/2003, Eric A. Hall wrote:
on 8/14/2003 9:29 AM Sean Donelan wrote:
John Markoff reports in the New York Times that Microsoft plans to change
how it ships Windows XP due to the worm. In the future Microsoft will
ship both business and consumer verisons of Windows XP with the
while i think many of us will welcome this, i am skeptical of what
the firewall will be 'enabled' to block, and how easy it will be
for the user to set-up rules (and hopefully there will be a sanity
check included so that 'permit in any' is not a valid option, but
then 'permit out any'
[Veering further off-topic]
Hmm...I didn't even know XP had a built-in firewall. Any bets on how
long it is before other companies with software firewall products bring
suit against Microsoft for bundling a firewall in the OS?
Along the vein of I dislike Microsoft, but let's get over it - when
No answer on that one, However Mac OS X also includes a built in firewall.
On the configuration angle, the Microsoft ICF (Internet Connection
Firewall) blocks everything by default.
Scott C. McGrath
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, John Neiberger wrote:
Sean Donelan [EMAIL
At 10:00 AM 8/14/2003, Daniel Senie wrote:
At 12:39 PM 8/14/2003, Matthew Watkins wrote:
Apple have the right idea... I'd say all the vendors need to take a
carefully balanced approach to security in the default configurations of
their software. Leave services exposed to the network disabled by
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 05:37:44PM +0100, Richard Cox wrote:
What I do like in the latest release of Zone Alarm Pro is that it will
stop ANY program from connecting outbound on Port 25 unless that program
has been specifically authorised to send mail. It was quite informative
to see which
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], McBu
rnett, Jim writes:
From: Scott McGrath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
No answer on that one, However Mac OS X also includes a built in firewall.
On the configuration angle, the Microsoft ICF (Internet Connection
Firewall) blocks everything by default.
I just
It comes standard with a firewall built in, which is not user friendly and you
have to still purchase a firewall that allows user access to control what
gets blocked and what does not, most intelligent people turn it off.
-HenryEdward Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[Veering further
At 12:39 PM 8/14/2003, Matthew Watkins wrote:
Apple have the right idea... I'd say all the vendors need to take a
carefully balanced approach to security in the default configurations of
their software. Leave services exposed to the network disabled by default,
where possible.
By all means,
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:46:56AM -0400, Joshua Sahala wrote:
while i think many of us will welcome this, i am skeptical of what
the firewall will be 'enabled' to block, and how easy it will be
for the user to set-up rules (and hopefully there will be a sanity
check included so that 'permit
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
On donderdag, aug 14, 2003, at 17:45 Europe/Amsterdam, Christopher L.
Morrow wrote:
No answer on that one, However Mac OS X also includes a built in
firewall.
yes, with fairly a simple method to add listening services to it...
though
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