Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-26 Thread Ben Scott
On 7/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... fire department evacuating the data center, cutting off electricity in the area, and forbidding the diesel generators to be switched on? I know a guy who was at the US Data Centers Inc facility in Marlborough, MA (before USDCI

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-25 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: (I remember two guys with VERY LONG screwdrivers poking a live transfer switch to get it to reset properly, and was told to step back 20 feet as thats how far they expected to get thrown if they did something wrong). (I also remember them

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-25 Thread Michael Painter
From: Justin M. Streiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 5:58 PM Subject: Re: San Francisco Power Outage Nothing quite like the sound of a whole machine room spinning down at the same time. It gives you that lovely oh shit feeling in the pit of your stomach. Yep. I plugged

RE: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-25 Thread michael.dillon
And the stories that the power guy I'm working with tells about foreign facilities, particularly in middle east war zones, are really scary... We fundamentally do not have the facilities problem completely nailed down to the point that things will never drop. Level 4 datacenters

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-25 Thread Stephen Wilcox
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 11:57:37PM +, Paul Vixie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Seth Mattinen) writes: I have a question: does anyone seriously accept oh, power trouble as a reason your servers went offline? Where's the generators? UPS? Testing said combination of UPS and generators?

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-25 Thread David Lesher
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: Level 4 datacenters can, and will, fail. Nothing you can do including just doing 48V DC for everything are truly foolproof solutions. Hard to find anyone who takes the -48vdc mantra to heart more than an RBOC. Ditto on lightning

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-25 Thread Jeff Aitken
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 09:57:09PM -0500, Brandon Galbraith wrote: It appears that 365 is using the Hytec Continuous Power System [ http://hitec.pageprocessor.nl/p3.php?RubriekID=2016], which is a motor, generator, flywheel, clutch, and Diesel engine all on the same shaft. They don't use

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-25 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Lassoff) writes: Well, the fact still remains that operating a datacenter smack-dab in the center of some of the most inflated real estate in recent history is quite a castly endeavor. yes. (speaking for both 365 main, and 529 bryant.) I really wouldn't be all

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-25 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Aitken) writes: ..., we had a failure at another datacenter that uses Piller units, which operate on the same basic principle as the Hitec ones. ... i guess i never understood why anyone would install a piller that far from the equator. (it spins like a top, on a

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-25 Thread George William Herbert
Michael Dillon writes: And the stories that the power guy I'm working with tells about foreign facilities, particularly in middle east war zones, are really scary... We fundamentally do not have the facilities problem completely nailed down to the point that things will never drop.

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread Seth Mattinen
Jonathan Lassoff wrote: Just a heads up to anyone on list that PGE has just sustained a large outage in San Francisco that has caused a few hiccups (both network, electrical, infrastructural, etc.) around the city. I've confirmed that both customers in 365 Main and parts of telecom 1 have

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007, Seth Mattinen wrote: I have a question: does anyone seriously accept oh, power trouble as a reason your servers went offline? Where's the generators? UPS? Testing said combination of UPS and generators? What if it was important? I honestly find it hard to believe

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread Brandon Galbraith
On 7/24/07, Seth Mattinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question: does anyone seriously accept oh, power trouble as a reason your servers went offline? Where's the generators? UPS? Testing said combination of UPS and generators? What if it was important? I honestly find it hard to believe

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Seth Mattinen) writes: I have a question: does anyone seriously accept oh, power trouble as a reason your servers went offline? Where's the generators? UPS? Testing said combination of UPS and generators? What if it was important? I honestly find it hard to believe

RE: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread Raymond L. Corbin
PM To: Seth Mattinen Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: San Francisco Power Outage On Tue, Jul 24, 2007, Seth Mattinen wrote: I have a question: does anyone seriously accept oh, power trouble as a reason your servers went offline? Where's the generators? UPS? Testing said combination of UPS

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread George William Herbert
Seth wrote: Jonathan Lassoff wrote: Just a heads up to anyone on list that PGE has just sustained a large outage in San Francisco that has caused a few hiccups (both network, electrical, infrastructural, etc.) around the city. I've confirmed that both customers in 365 Main and parts of

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread John Kinsella
with UPS. -Ray -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Chadd Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 7:54 PM To: Seth Mattinen Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: San Francisco Power Outage On Tue, Jul 24, 2007, Seth Mattinen wrote: I have

Fw: Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread Fred Heutte
Francisco Power Outage Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:54:08 -0700 Jonathan Lassoff wrote: Just a heads up to anyone on list that PGE has just sustained a large outage in San Francisco that has caused a few hiccups (both network, electrical, infrastructural, etc.) around the city. I've confirmed that both

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
Of Adrian Chadd Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 7:54 PM To: Seth Mattinen Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: San Francisco Power Outage On Tue, Jul 24, 2007, Seth Mattinen wrote: I have a question: does anyone seriously accept oh, power trouble as a reason your servers went offline? Where's