Re: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-12 Thread Bob Vaughan
[ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > > > > > During the Northridge earthquake (the one during the > world series in sf.ba.ca.us) there was a BUNCH of > disruption of the infrastructure, drives were shaken > til they crashed, power wend down all over the area, > Telco lines g

Re: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-12 Thread Warren Kumari
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So I am standing in a datacenter fiddling with some fiber and listening to an electrician explaining to the datacenter owner how he has just finished auditing all of the backup power systems and that the transfer switch will work this time (unl

Re: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 06:50:47 CDT, "James D. Butt" said: > Unless there is some sort of crazy story related to why a service provider > could not keep the lights on, this should have not been an issue with > proper operations and engineering. So a while ago, we're in the middle of some major con

RE: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-12 Thread Charles Cala
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James D. Butt > Unless there is some sort of crazy story related > to why a service provider > could not keep the lights on, this should have not > been an issue with > proper operations and engineering. 6 stories from the t

Re: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-12 Thread Michael . Dillon
> Unless there is some sort of crazy story related to why a service provider > could not keep the lights on, this should have not been an issue with > proper operations and engineering. I'll let others tell you about the rat that caused a short circuit when Stanford attempted to switch to back

RE: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-12 Thread James D. Butt
Yes that is an exception... not what happened in this case You can come up with a lot of valid exceptions... There are many reasons why a Tier 1 provider does not stick all its eggs in multi-tenant buildings... smart things can be done with site selection. I am not saying ever customer

RE: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-12 Thread Geo.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James D. Butt > Unless there is some sort of crazy story related to why a service provider > could not keep the lights on, this should have not been an issue with > proper operations and engineering. The build

Re: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-12 Thread James D. Butt
I certainly understand why utility power goes out and that is the reason why MCI loosing power confuses me. I am pretty sure that someone at MCI also realizes why the blackout happens and how fragile things are. It is irresponsible for a Tier 1 infrastructure provider to not be able to gen

Re: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-12 Thread Michael . Dillon
> Not sure I understand how on earth something like this happens... power is > not that confusing to make sure it does not stop working. Is that so? Have you read the report on the Northeast blackout of 2003? https://reports.energy.gov/ --Michael Dillon

Re: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-11 Thread Jerry Pasker
ATT must adhere to some diffrent engineering standards; as well devices we monitor there were all fine no blips... but all of the MCI customers we have in IL, MI, WI, MN all had issues... Power went out at 4:30 ish and ckts all dumped about 8:30 pm... Then bounced until 6:30 AM this morn

Re: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-11 Thread Jerry Pasker
Hi Chris, It seems all 800 numbers I have is busy. I heard that there was fire around home depot in Down Grove area, and it did hit the power grid, so UUNET/MCI POP lost the power. UUNET/MCI tech - Fortunately, our Network management center tech has the number for him - said he is waiting for

Re: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-11 Thread James D. Butt
we had a loss of comercial power(coned) in the downers grove terminal. terminal is up on generator power now. that seems to map to the internal firedrill as well, anyone else hit by this event? Electric utility had a sub-station burn up. resulting in a medium-sized geographic area without

RE: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-11 Thread Erik Sundberg
TECTED] Behalf Of > Robert Bonomi > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:17 AM > To: nanog@merit.edu > Subject: Re: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN > > > > > Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:06:05 + (GMT) > > From: "Christopher L. Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-11 Thread Robert Bonomi
> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:06:05 + (GMT) > From: "Christopher L. Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN > > On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > we had a loss of comercial power(coned) in the do

Re: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-11 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > we had a loss of comercial power(coned) in the downers grove terminal. > terminal is up on generator power now. > that seems to map to the internal firedrill as well, anyone else hit by this event?

Re: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-11 Thread Hyunseog Ryu
Hi Chris, It seems all 800 numbers I have is busy. I heard that there was fire around home depot in Down Grove area, and it did hit the power grid, so UUNET/MCI POP lost the power. UUNET/MCI tech - Fortunately, our Network management center tech has the number for him - said he is waiting for

Re: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Sawicki
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 03:42:58AM +, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > > traceroute or ping or end-node ip on your end... or did you call the > customer support crew and ask them? > There was apparently a very serious fire at one or more of the Chicago area hubs MCI manages. They have a tick

Re: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN

2005-08-10 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
traceroute or ping or end-node ip on your end... or did you call the customer support crew and ask them? --Chris (formerly [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ### ## UUNET Technologies, Inc. ## ## Some Security Engineering Group