Re: Weird attack or traffic (Was Re: The impending DDoS storm)

2003-08-14 Thread Haesu
It kinda looks like the virus or whatever it is, is spoofing source IP. Now I am seeing lots of spoofed packets trying to egress out of our network. We are filtering egress traffic so obviously its being dropped at edge of course... Just cleared access-list counter about a minute or so ago an

Re: Weird attack or traffic (Was Re: The impending DDoS storm)

2003-08-14 Thread Mike Tancsa
Yes, we are starting to see this as well. We are filtering at the edge, so the bogus packets are not getting out. We have a /19 of 64.7.128.0/19 and 64.7.229.241 is totally bogus for our network. Aug 14 21:59:16 telus-151front /kernel: ipfw: 3 Deny TCP 64.7.229.241:1069 204.79.188.11:80

Weird attack or traffic (Was Re: The impending DDoS storm)

2003-08-14 Thread Haesu
Is anyone else seeing backscatters on your network about windowsupdate.com's IP? Someone who transits through 65.123.21.137 router is sending out lots of packets to 204.79.188.11 (windowsupdate.com) in which its not currently advertised to internet as we speak. Not to mention, packets seem to be

Re: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Jeff Kell
Dan Hollis wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Jason Frisvold wrote: If the blaster cannot get a proper DNS response, it continues to replicate via port 135... It then goes into a retry cycle and continues to try to get a good DNS lookup. has anyone tried tarpitting eg labrea to slow the worm? Oh yeah, La

Re: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Randy Bush
> What is everyone doing, if anything, to prevent the apparent upcoming > DDoS attack against Microsoft? let's go shopping!

Re: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Jack Bates
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 10:55, Ingevaldson, Dan (ISS Atlanta) wrote: -Does one DNS lookup on "windowsupdate.com" and then uses the IP No, I wouldn't dream of setting windowsupdate.com to 127.0.0.1. Who in their right mind would do that? -Jack

RE: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Eric Germann
Since no one has brought it up yet, wouldn't it be just dandy if rev 2 of this worm attacked different stuff? Call it the perfect storm, RPC vulnerability used to whack infrastrcture. It doesn't take long to think of the perfect combinations since this thing was cut and pasted together.

Re: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Aaron Hopkins
> has anyone tried tarpitting eg labrea to slow the worm? I have been using my Linux kernel module ipt_TARPIT (included in the latest netfilter.org patch-o-matic release) to do this for any IPs on my network lacking a route, including outbound from my customers and inbound to my unused address sp

Re: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Jason Frisvold wrote: > All, > > What is everyone doing, if anything, to prevent the apparent upcoming > DDoS attack against Microsoft? From what I've been reading, and what > I've been told, August 16th is the apparent start date... > > We're looking for some

RE: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread McBurnett, Jim
es Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The impending DDoS storm Does anyone have any notion of what the Blaster worm will do if the DNS lookup for "windowsupdate.com" returns NXDOMAIN? If it handles this case by not sending any micreant love, might that not be the best way to mitigate the p

RE: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Jason Frisvold
rity Systems, Inc. > The Power to Protect > http://www.iss.net > === > > > -Original Message- > From: Jason Frisvold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:50 AM > To: Ingevaldson, Dan (ISS Atlanta) > Cc: Stephen J. Wilcox

Re: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Lloyd Taylor
ates wrote: > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 11:10:13 -0500 > From: Jack Bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Jason Frisvold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Ingevaldson, Dan (ISS Atlanta)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Stephen J. Wilcox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTEC

RE: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Jason Frisvold
; Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:38 AM > To: Jason Frisvold > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: The impending DDoS storm > > > > > On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Jason Frisvold wrote: > > > All, > > > > What is everyone doing, if anything, to preven

RE: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Josh Fleishman
EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The impending DDoS storm Jack Bates Wrote: > I have no affiliation with Microsoft, nor do I care about their > services or products. What I do care about is a worm that sends out > packets uncontrolled. If there is the possibility that this "planned"

RE: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Kevin Houle
--On Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:24:53 AM -0400 Josh Fleishman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone determined a method for triggering the DOS attack manually? We've attempted this by changing an infected machine's clock, however it did not work on our test box. If anyone has triggered the att

RE: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Christopher Chin
Today at 11:24 (-0400), Josh Fleishman wrote: > Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:24:53 -0400 > From: Josh Fleishman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: The impending DDoS storm > > Has anyone determined a method for triggering the DOS attack manually? &

Re: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Dan Hollis
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Jason Frisvold wrote: > If the blaster cannot get a proper DNS response, it continues to > replicate via port 135... It then goes into a retry cycle and continues > to try to get a good DNS lookup. has anyone tried tarpitting eg labrea to slow the worm? -Dan -- [-] Omae no

RE: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Darren Richer
PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The impending DDoS storm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7652257~root=security,1~mode=flat;sta rt=0 - Original Message - From: "Josh Fleishman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, Augu

Re: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Jason Frisvold
ug 2003 11:10:13 -0500 > > From: Jack Bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Jason Frisvold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "Ingevaldson, Dan (ISS Atlanta)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > Stephen J. Wilcox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Painter
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,7652257~root=security,1~mode=flat;start=0 - Original Message - From: "Josh Fleishman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:24 AM Subject: RE: The impending DDoS storm > >

The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Jason Frisvold
All, What is everyone doing, if anything, to prevent the apparent upcoming DDoS attack against Microsoft? From what I've been reading, and what I've been told, August 16th is the apparent start date... We're looking for some solution to prevent wasting our network resources trans

Re: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Vallar
Jack Bates Wrote: > I have no affiliation with Microsoft, nor do I care about their services > or products. What I do care about is a worm that sends out packets > uncontrolled. If there is the possibility that this "planned" DOS will > cause issues with my topology, then I will do whatever it t

Re: The impending DDoS storm

2003-08-14 Thread Jack Bates
McBurnett, Jim wrote: But doesn't that mean the hacker won? If you change the DNS and a user can not get to windowsupdate, you just helped him create a better DoS than he had... I have no affiliation with Microsoft, nor do I care about their services or products. What I do care about is a worm