Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-23 Thread Andrew C Burnette
Thanks Randy, (seriously, I get questions such as those all the time) I was beginning to think NANOG was still stuck in the 2002 or something :-) You surely know the parable the shoemakers kids are the last to get shoes as my own 'lab' full of toys/stuff is the last to get upgraded and

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-23 Thread JC Dill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inet-access used be a good place for finding that type of information, but that list seems to be on life-support these days. ob python It's not dead yet! /python Ask a good question in inet-access and you will get a lot of answers, both on and off list. The

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-22 Thread Andrew C Burnette
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip http://www.einstein-website.de/z_kids/letterskids.html That's cute Valdis, but did the little girl and Einstein force thousands of people around the world to read their correspondence? I whole-heartily encourage and thank anyone

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-22 Thread Randy Bush
Hey nanog committee, there's an idea. How about an operator's wiki? http://nanog.cluepon.net/ centralization is not a core feature of the internet :) randy

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Barry Shein
Is this for real? Someone asks a harmless question about setting up multiple default routes, not about Barack Obama or whether the moon is made of green cheese, but about default routes. Then 10 people decide to respond that this isn't appropriate for nanog. Then 25 people decide to dispute

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Barry Shein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this for real? Someone asks a harmless question about setting up multiple default routes, not about Barack Obama or whether the moon is made of green cheese, but about default routes. Then 10 people decide to

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Scott McGrath
If we do not help the newbies how will they ever become clued. I can certainly remember when I did not know a bit from a byte. Oh and btw I'll take 5 of those STM64's on special... Regards all - Scott Martin Hannigan wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Barry Shein [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread andrew2
Scott McGrath wrote: If we do not help the newbies how will they ever become clued. I can certainly remember when I did not know a bit from a byte. I agree, but I question if NANOG is the appropriate medium for such help. I tend to (maybe mistakenly) assume a working knowledge of basic

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:44:39 EDT, Martin Hannigan said: personal opinion I dont think that there's any issue at all to be honest. NANOG isn't just for the clued. /personal opinion And more to the point - if somebody manages to go through all the hoops needed to ask a basic question on

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Scott McGrath
I'll take that bet Valdis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:44:39 EDT, Martin Hannigan said: personal opinion I dont think that there's any issue at all to be honest. NANOG isn't just for the clued. /personal opinion And more to the point - if somebody manages to go

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:15:06 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: mailing list. Isn't this akin to posting to a profesional mathematics forum asking for help with your Algebra? In 1943 he (Einstein) answered a little girl who had difficulties in school with mathematics. Do not worry about your

RE: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread andrew2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:15:06 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: mailing list. Isn't this akin to posting to a profesional mathematics forum asking for help with your Algebra? In 1943 he (Einstein) answered a little girl who had difficulties in school with mathematics.

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's cute Valdis, but did the little girl and Einstein force thousands of people around the world to read their correspondence? Suggestion: Before creating list rule about appropriate level of expertise in questions, wait until

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Sena, Rich
Can someone put this in a digest for me? eg - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Barry Shein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: nanog@merit.edu nanog@merit.edu Sent: Fri Mar 21 16:44:39 2008 Subject: Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant On Fri, Mar

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Peter J. Cherny
At 04:20 AM 21/3/08, ann kok wrote: ls it possible to have 2 default routes? or how can I do the rebundant when the route is still working either eth1 or eth2 down? A google search for ipfilter policy routing turns up lots of hints (mine included). There are some variations using lo0 so that

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And more to the point - if somebody manages to go through all the hoops needed to ask a basic question on the NANOG list, it demonstrates a desire to accumulate clue - so we should encourage those people. ... yes, please. (i've not given up on accumulating clue

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008, Sena, Rich wrote: Can someone put this in a digest for me? eg I will, once the shit settles. Adrian - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Barry Shein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: nanog@merit.edu nanog@merit.edu Sent: Fri Mar 21

default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-20 Thread ann kok
Hi ls it possible to have 2 default routes? or how can I do the rebundant when the route is still working either eth1 or eth2 down? Router2 192.168.0.2/20 eth1 192.168.0.18/20 eth2 10.0.0.1 eth3 ip route 0.0.0.0/0 192.168.0.1 ip route 0.0.0.0/0 192.168.0.17 or ip route 0.0.0.0/0

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-20 Thread Donald Stahl
NANOG is not a general purpose router help mailing list. Issues discussed here are supposed to be relevant to the North American ISP community. Please take this question to a FreeBSD mailing list. Thanks, -Don ls it possible to have 2 default routes? or how can I do the rebundant when the

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-20 Thread Randy Bush
Donald Stahl wrote: NANOG is not a general purpose router help mailing list. Issues discussed here are supposed to be relevant to the North American ISP community. excuse? configuring routers is not operational in north america? have you gone completely layer 2 over there? randy

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-20 Thread Michael Holstein
ls it possible to have 2 default routes? No .. not in the literal sense. or how can I do the rebundant when the route is still working either eth1 or eth2 down? What you do in this case is create an equal weighted preference for each of the two routes, along with tests to ensure

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-20 Thread Donald Stahl
NANOG is not a general purpose router help mailing list. Issues discussed here are supposed to be relevant to the North American ISP community. excuse? configuring routers is not operational in north america? have you gone completely layer 2 over there? Are you seriously going to sit there

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-20 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ann kok) writes: Hi ls it possible to have 2 default routes? or how can I do the rebundant when the route is still working either eth1 or eth2 down? ... i am using freebsd router see http://www.cctec.com/maillists/nanog/historical/9706/msg00237.html and

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-20 Thread Aaron Glenn
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Donald Stahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, if you really want to answer these sorts of questions then perhaps people can email you directly? I personally think NANOG has enough noise as it is. I've always been under the impression NANOG's

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-20 Thread ann kok
Sorry all. i don't want to make any argument For me, i really want to get mailling list about networking to help. and I heard there are professional networking guys in nanog. they might help me. I still have many networking questions. for the mtu issue, I couldn't find out until I know

Re: default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-20 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008, ann kok wrote: Sorry all. i don't want to make any argument Don't worry, the argument is elsewhere. :) For me, i really want to get mailling list about networking to help. and I heard there are professional networking guys in nanog. they might help me. There's