Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-03 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 05:55:13PM -0700, Matt Ghali wrote: DNS traffic, surprisingly, is not very fat. It is no HTTP nor SMTP. The engineering behind appropriately sizing a unicast fallback would be pretty trivial, especially compared to building a somewhat-robust

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-03 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: 10.1.0.1 Anycast1 (x50 boxes) 10.2.0.1 Anycast2 (x50 boxes - different to anycast1) In each scenario two systems have to fail to take out any one customer.. but isnt the bottom one better for the usual pro anycast reasons?

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-02 Thread Joe Abley
On 2 Jul 2004, at 00:18, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: So, I thought of it like this: 1) Rodney/Centergate/UltraDNS knows where all their 35000billion copies of the 2 .org TLD boxes are, what network pieces they are connected to at which bandwidths and the current utilization 2)

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-02 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 10:22:09AM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: This leaves the anycast servers providing all the optimisation that they are good for (local nameserver in toplogically distant networks; distributed DDoS traffic sink; reduced transaction RTT) and provides a

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-02 Thread Dr. Jeffrey Race
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:22:09 -0400, Joe Abley wrote: With the fix above, the problem becomes hey, *some* of the nameservers for ORG are dead! We should fix that, but since not *all* of them are dead, at least ORG still works. Sorry, I missed the top of this thread. I cannot mail an ORG

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-02 Thread Joe Abley
On 2 Jul 2004, at 10:43, Leo Bicknell wrote: Note in the later pages what happens to particular servers under packet loss. They all start to show an affinity for a subset of the servers. It's been said that by putting some non-anycasted servers in with the anycasted servers what can happen is

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-02 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Joe Abley wrote: All the failure modes that ISC has seen with anycast nameserver instances can be avoided (for the authoritative DNS service as a whole) by including one or more non-anycast nameservers in the NS set. Am I missing something.. So you say: 10.1.0.1

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-02 Thread Matt Ghali
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Leo Bicknell wrote: So the question is not so much is 500ms towards the server bad, it's can I build a single server (cluster) that will take all the load worldwide when the client software does bad things. DNS traffic, surprisingly, is not very fat. It is no HTTP nor

ultradns reachability

2004-07-01 Thread Matt Ghali
is anyone else seeing timeouts reaching ultradns' .org nameservers? I'm seeing seemingly random timeout failures from both sbci and uc berkeley.

RE: ultradns reachability

2004-07-01 Thread Cody Lerum
01, 2004 7:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ultradns reachability is anyone else seeing timeouts reaching ultradns' .org nameservers? I'm seeing seemingly random timeout failures from both sbci and uc berkeley.

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Matt Ghali [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: is anyone else seeing timeouts reaching ultradns' .org nameservers? I'm seeing seemingly random timeout failures from both sbci and uc berkeley. One is working and one is not from here. $ dig +norec @tld1.ultradns.net

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-01 Thread Eric Frazier
Yes, it looks like it is starting to get back to normal since I got your email :) As far as I could tell it started around 5:30 PST and ended around 6:00 PST. Thanks, Eric At 06:01 PM 7/1/2004, Matt Ghali wrote: is anyone else seeing timeouts reaching ultradns' .org nameservers? I'm seeing

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-01 Thread James Edwards
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Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-01 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, James Edwards wrote: http://www.cymru.com/DNS/gtlddns-o.html my mrtg skillz are kind of lame, but this seems to show 2/3rds outage from this monitoring point of view. It'd be nice if the aforementioned 'what/where/who' info was available for each monitoring point CYMRU

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-01 Thread k claffy
On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 02:06:59AM +, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, James Edwards wrote: http://www.cymru.com/DNS/gtlddns-o.html my mrtg skillz are kind of lame, but this seems to show 2/3rds outage from this monitoring point of view. It'd be nice if

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-01 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, k claffy wrote: On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 02:06:59AM +, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, James Edwards wrote: http://www.cymru.com/DNS/gtlddns-o.html Anycast makes the pinpointing of problems a little challenging from the external

Re: ultradns reachability

2004-07-01 Thread Edward B. Dreger
CLM Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 04:18:07 + (GMT) CLM From: Christopher L. Morrow [ editted for brevity -- some punctuation/wording modified ] CLM So, I thought of it like this. Rodney/Centergate/UltraDNS CLM knows: [ snip enumeration ] CLM [and] should know almost exactly when they have a