RE: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-15 Thread Lorell Hathcock
On 15/10/2007, at 12:05 AM, Simon Lyall wrote: As for where the Blackboxes will be used, It'll be where companies want servers in place in weeks or months and existing datacenters are full or in the wrong place. Think of a building full of people processing insurance claims in India or

Re: Geographic map of IPv6 availability

2007-10-15 Thread Martin Hannigan
On 10/14/07, Iljitsch van Beijnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14-okt-2007, at 19:34, Martin Hannigan wrote: Is this a configurable option for the inverse behavoir? Seems to me that it should be since it affects the user experience and sets policy for the network. It just may be, but I

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-15 Thread Tim Franklin
On Fri, October 12, 2007 10:08 pm, Mark Foster wrote: Its all very well for those that know better to carry on like this, but I would suggest that those sortsa complaints only come from people who don't know better. They don't know how to interpret their Firewall warnings. And they don't

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-15 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 15-okt-2007, at 7:09, Bradley Urberg Carlson wrote: There is a customer's customer who is advertising more-specifics at the IX (and using a different source AS, to boot). I can think of a couple ways to prevent hearing these, but thought I should ask for suggestions first. What

Re: Geographic map of IPv6 availability

2007-10-15 Thread Nathan Ward
On 15/10/2007, at 8:24 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: [moresnip] The way I read the portion of the thread related to resolver behavoir was that the resolver behavior was being discussed. Not the client. The resolver should have an attribute to select the preference between A vs. . Otherwise,

Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity?

2007-10-15 Thread Raymond Macharia
Hi first of all I kinda picked the thread mid stream so apologies if what is here has been dealt with by others As an ISP if I receive a complaint of what may be illegal activity coming from a customer on my network I can respond to the complaint and say I will look into it but what action

Re: Geographic map of IPv6 availability

2007-10-15 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 15-okt-2007, at 11:50, Nathan Ward wrote: The way I read the portion of the thread related to resolver behavoir was that the resolver behavior was being discussed. Not the client. The resolver should have an attribute to select the preference between A vs. . Otherwise, it's setting

Re: Geographic map of IPv6 availability

2007-10-15 Thread Mark Andrews
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: On 15/10/2007, at 8:24 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: [moresnip] The way I read the portion of the thread related to resolver behavoir was that the resolver behavior was being discussed. Not the client. The resolver should have an attribute to select

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-15 Thread Wolfgang Tremmel
Am 15.10.2007 um 07:09 schrieb Bradley Urberg Carlson: I have a few customers' customers, who appear at a local IX. Due to the MLPA-like nature of the IX, I hear their prefixes both at the IX and via my own transit customers. I normally use localpref to prefer customer advertisements

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-15 Thread John Payne
On Oct 15, 2007, at 7:41, Wolfgang Tremmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] cix.net wrote: Am 15.10.2007 um 07:09 schrieb Bradley Urberg Carlson: I have a few customers' customers, who appear at a local IX. Due to the MLPA-like nature of the IX, I hear their prefixes both at the IX and via my

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-15 Thread Che-Hoo CHENG
The problem is you're announcing the aggregate prefixes of your customer's customers to your upstream providers and the traffic from your upstreams to those networks will be routed through the IX (instead of your customer connection) because of the longer prefix effect and so you're not charging

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-15 Thread Andy Davidson
On 15 Oct 2007, at 13:33, John Payne wrote: To answer the OP's question I'd be looking at manually filtering the more specifics if they are also sending the aggregates through the IX. The customer's customer is still going to see *your* routes via the MLP, unless (without knowing what

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-15 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007, Wolfgang Tremmel wrote: I have a few customers' customers, who appear at a local IX. Due to the MLPA-like nature of the IX, I hear their prefixes both at the IX and via my own transit customers. I normally use localpref to prefer customer advertisements over

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-15 Thread Mike Leber
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007, Bradley Urberg Carlson wrote: I have a few customers' customers, who appear at a local IX. Due to the MLPA-like nature of the IX, I hear their prefixes both at the IX and via my own transit customers. I normally use localpref to prefer customer advertisements over

Re: more-specifics via IX

2007-10-15 Thread John Payne
On Oct 15, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Mike Leber wrote: On Mon, 15 Oct 2007, Bradley Urberg Carlson wrote: I have a few customers' customers, who appear at a local IX. Due to the MLPA-like nature of the IX, I hear their prefixes both at the IX and via my own transit customers. I normally use

Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity?

2007-10-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* Steve Bertrand: Anyway, if you've got a customer account that was created with a stolen credit card, and you get complaints about activity on that account from various parties, and you still don't act, this shows a rather significant level of carelessness. Further to carelessness, this

Re: Geographic map of IPv6 availability

2007-10-15 Thread Martin Hannigan
On 10/15/07, Mark Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: On 15/10/2007, at 8:24 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: [moresnip] The way I read the portion of the thread related to resolver behavoir was that the resolver behavior was being discussed. Not

Sorry if this is off-topic :-)

2007-10-15 Thread Drew Weaver
I don't believe it is, it may be, sorry if it is ;-) Does anyone have any real world experience with IDS gear from TopLayer? If so could you contact me off-list with your comments/suggestions? We're looking at some IDS / DDOS mitigation gear. Any suggestions from folks who have already

Re: Geographic map of IPv6 availability

2007-10-15 Thread Mark Andrews
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: On 10/15/07, Mark Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: On 15/10/2007, at 8:24 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: [moresnip] The way I read the portion of the thread related to resolver behavoir was that the

bgp protection

2007-10-15 Thread Randy Bush
at nanog san jose, steve bellovin presented a simple proposal for bgp tcp/md5 re-keying. it is now rfc 4808 Key Change Strategies for TCP-MD5. this allows us to install and/or roll keys without disturbing the bgp session. and it is trivial for vendors to implement and for operators to use.

I remember IANA... rfc2468

2007-10-15 Thread Rodney Joffe
It's hard to believe that it has already been 9 years. http://www.postel.org/postel.html http://www.isoc.org/postel/index.shtml

Re: I remember IANA... rfc2468

2007-10-15 Thread Randy Bush
indeed and abha is saturday randy

RE: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-15 Thread Lorell Hathcock
I think the better approach is to not purchase one but to do a lease so that the hardware stays refreshed and keeps up with technology. I'm not sure if they've got a service model for doing the leases but would be a great way to go for large organizations where you can pay a fee to have them on