with OC12 QPP's doing ds1's
some day) for a little bit more money now, still be able to run 20+ ChDS3
ports with plenty of uplink capacity in a 3U M10, and save the money in
the cost of the space and power.
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load of
ChDS3 PAs to the waiting crowd of suckers on eBay and
trade up to a Juniper with money left over, on any
decent number of chds3's.
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will tell you, it is better (at most
things).
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hardware-less firewalling in 5.x, I'm still not entirely convinced that
they aren't thinking the same thing. But alas, it's probably too
innovative a concept, and might cut into the stupid with too much money
M5 buying market a tiny bit.
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If you are on the list or know someone who is, please encourage them to
take steps to clean up their act. You may now return to your regularly
scheduled complaining about Verisign.
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such that you kill the rest of the box, routing protocols etc), at
the expense of latency.
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information, see
www.isp-bandwidth.com. NANOG has never been, and dear god hopefully never
will be, a useful resource for finding anything sales related.
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in
processing power, and at best 24-36 months behind the times of the
technology the Dell Interns are pushing for $499, is beyond me.
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600mhz, or that it costs anywhere near $20,000 for that
blade server. :)
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in numbers other than units sold.
On the topic of PC routers, I've fully given in to the zen of Randy Bush.
I FULLY encourage my competitor to use them. :)
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playtoy for your house, or an endless
source of laughter for the people who know better as they watch you work
away at it. The vast majority of this discussion falls into the latter
category, but after a while even this gem of a subject turns from funny to
just plain sad. :)
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hold in reserve and still keep ARIN happy.
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with JetCore modules, Cisco Catalyst 6500/7600 with
Sup2(A), Sup3(A/BXL)
Don't confuse flow based with slow-path initial lookup, they aren't
the same.
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aggregation is a good
middle ground, and understanding where and with what steps a layer 3
switch CAN be used effectively is even better still. Anyone who doesn't
understand this is probably working for a bankrupt or soon to be bankrupt
company.
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to say that it wasn't worth paying for. :)
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On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 02:30:19PM -0800, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 12:27:16PM -0800, Jim Devane wrote:
Are these devices able to effectively address the need?
Sugar pills effectively address the needs of a great
probably doesn't qualify as most any
more) is simply that none of the product and very little of the technology
applies to the networks they run or the work they have to do.
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hijinks to truly make use of POS's MTU these days.
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and stability is as
important if not more important. I don't see the point in implementing a
v6 network consisting of seperate 7206vxrs (to contain the ios crashes)
and tunnels, if you're going to bother with it at least do it native and
do it right.
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groupings in a multi-bit trie implementation in hardware. So unlike the
rest of the list, I will quit while I am ahead. :)
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.
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 05:53:10PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
anyone else seeing high latency via L3 , especially the west coast ?
And is it related to Telefonica leaking their peer routes to their
transits, which seems to have happened at around the same time? :)
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they do' (without of course
any serious proof that they are doing anything). And through it all you
find absolutly know exact details on what they are planning to do and why.
Information Warfare? Given the state of the industry, what we need is
Information Welfare.
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packet kiddies were more interesting than this crap. Enough
already!
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in the appearence
of inconsistant origin ASs on locally originated routes. Who would have
thought local-as would bring down the wrath of the net k00ks. :)
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peers to depeer someone because of
an inconsistant origin AS caused by the use of local-as. Actions like that
(and these for that matter) tend to get one branded a net kook... And
feedings the kooks is never productive. :)
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, the logistics can be decent too.
It's unfortunate that BayTech's pinout for serial console stuff is only
slightly less evil than satan, but their power systems are nice.
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.HongKong.Teleglobe.net (64.86.80.129)
352 ms (ttl=240!) 353 ms (ttl=240!) 352 ms
(ttl=240!)
Happy traceroute engineering.
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... :)
Bottom line, it is remarkably difficult to take action
based on random internet complaints. If there is a
well known authoritive source for DoS tracking who
wants to publish a list to ISP's fine, but don't
expect the same reaction to random joe blow
complainer.
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, rather than
run around trying to set up MD5 with every peer. As a long term
improvement, a random ephemeral port selection process could be used.
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in something other
than ram) or following an MD5 key mismatch for whatever reason.
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On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 01:08:22PM -0700, Jeremy T. Bouse wrote:
I've been noting considerable problems traversing through
atdn.net backbone this afternoon from the west coast...
This is what happens when Vijay has nothing to present at nanog... Next
stop, the apocalypse.
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border capacity, you may
never see the gigabits of src bogons, protocol 0 or 255, port 0, 40 byte
syns w/no MSS option, etc, and assume that these attacks are out of style
because the only ones that get through are the WinXP MSS+SACK unforged
drone SYNs.
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On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 11:39:39AM -0600, Danny McPherson wrote:
On Jun 2, 2004, at 10:56 AM, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
What people may being seeing is that poorly randomized source attacks
are
being automatically filtered by uRPF loose or other means before they
ever
reach
vulnerability that has not been publicly released? Any
clues?
Dare I ask, what part of North American Network Operators Group made you
think that this could POSSIBLY be on-topic or of interest to anyone here?
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control the ignorant population: whenever you hear
someone say class [ABC] in reference to anything other than a historical
allocation, smack them. Hard.
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/
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Superior Court, where I no longer have easy
access to the documents. I would be happy to take offline submissions of
the legal filings from anyone willing to waste more on this than the
$0.07/page that PACER charges. :)
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GPG
can
whine about the routing table, go right ahead.
And you wonder why judges don't listen to engineers some days. Sheesh.
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something in this that I am not?
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deserve any less consideration.
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interface, probably Cisco, and the IR designation on XO indicates a
peering router. Educated hunch based on what the traffic levels between
3549 and 2828 in Seattle probably are... OC3?
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I guess I'll ask first...
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routing it through an unused 10Mbps ethernet or unused OC-192.
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- they sometimes provoke huge
fights even within providers.
Sounds like a NANOG talk presentation to me. I love a good debate between
airport codes and clli codes (not!). :)
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different folks with public GigE exchange ports sitting at 920-960Mbps
peak *RIGHT NOW*.
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On Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 08:28:50AM -0400, ren wrote:
At 02:07 AM 7/3/2004 -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
b) The price being charged for the public exchange ports is non-trivial
(especially compared to the cost of transit these days!), and is billed
on a port basis instead
), not the hardware.
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in connecting with the smaller guys
will go ahead and pay for it.
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.
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-Name:HyperSpace Communications
network:Street-Address: 74 West Street
network:City:Waltham
network:State:MA
network:Postal-Code:02451
network:Country-Code:US
network:Tech-Contact:ZC108-ARIN
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it. You can't have it both ways.
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be a conspiracy.
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that you, as a root server operator, can't
just suck it up and deal? Sure there are going to be a few folks who are
misconfigured, but I can't imagine that it is enough to cause operational
issues.
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On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 02:18:32PM -0700, David A. Ulevitch wrote:
quote who=Richard A Steenbergen
Is it really enough traffic that you, as a root server operator, can't
just suck it up and deal? Sure there are going to be a few folks who are
misconfigured, but I can't imagine
aggregation boxes which still don't support uRPF. :)
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into paying absurd
markup for their optics, intentionally designing interfaces with fixed
optics so that you have to purchase more cards than you might actually
need in order to have the necessary optics, etc.
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: 64.12.0.0/16 (AOL)
6461 22534 3356 1668 8176 I
MFN in turn seems to be leaking it to all (or atleast most) peers.
This is actually the 2nd major leak from MFN in the past couple of days.
It would be nice if they would knock it off.
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already will someone please get this put into a draft
already.
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by prefix length, etc. There would still
remain a clear role for no-export and more specifics upto /32 between
networks who have negotiated this relationship, but there absolutely no
reason you couldn't and shouldn't have global blackholes available as
well.
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decisions. However, based on the knowledge that a blackhole community
route is no different than a regular route in its ability to cause
unreachability if incorrectly announced, I would tend to suspect that most
people would choose to allow this to be propagated globally.
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that someone
peers with? Patrick? :) Somehow I suspect that 701's customer base (702
and 703 aren't included in the above count BTW) overpower even the most
aggressively open of peering policies, in this particular random pointless
and arbitrary contest at any rate.
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.
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. This rant
has gotten off topic and out of hand even for the zero censorship crowd.
Thanks.
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; fraud; cunning.
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during depeering. :)
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really hasn't been paying
attention.
What remains to be seen from all of this is who blinks first, if anyone
else jumps in at the same time, and if any of it changes anything in the
marketplace.
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disgruntled customers from both sides. Either
side could end the lack of connectivity if they wanted, yet they both
clearly see business reasons not to do so.
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it depends how important I am,
doesn't it?
If I may, you sound like someone whom FT has depeered in the past? :)
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, if
they keep this up their are going to need to change their name to Switch
or Data.
Oh well, at least this didn't happen during the SD sponsored NANOG. :)
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On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 02:11:40PM -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote:
In a message written on Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 01:51:54PM -0400, Richard A
Steenbergen wrote:
Personally I tend to suspect the general lack of uproar is a rather
unfortunate (for them) sign that PAIX is no longer relevant when
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 01:45:24AM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Richard A Steenbergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 05:20:21PM -0400, Peering wrote:
All,
Is there something out there (other than a router) that will convert
with this, nor are my customers or
the vast majority of other Internet users. Therefore, if vendors want to
design a product that end-run the problem by maintaining packet ordering
when they load balance, good for them.
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GPG
mail: see transcript for details
The original message was received at Sun, 1 May 2005 23:29:56 -0400
from dakota.av8.net [130.105.19.131]
Just be glad no one has set up a net kook DNSBL yet.
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and that the process is unfair.
If everyone would please make the effort to not respond to the blatant
personal attacks, no matter how justified the response may be, it will
help the process along. In the end this is the important part of not
feeding the trolls.
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are you
routing, what kind of interfaces and how many, basic things like that.
Without details, the best that you're likely to get (now that Dean is gone
:P) is something akin to go buy a volvo, namely go buy a Juniper.
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are for, but since there
is nothing they can do to splice it any faster, I'm going to recommend a
healthy dose of suck it up and deal. :)
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of communication.
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on the incident:
http://www.belleville.com/mld/belleville/news/local/11981877.htm
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, and actually delivered on SLA credits much faster than
other colos in similar situations.
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part of this made you think that this was a Sprint problem
and not Yahoo's side of a Sprint transit demarc, most likely with a
default route kicking things back to the Sprint transit interface? Or what
made you think that this needed to go to NANOG?
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.
:)
Seems to happen a LOT in this industry, across many vendors, but some
more often than others.
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talking about, and the higher number of 1.5m).
Perhaps Cisco should hire some spammers to consult for them. Those folks
certainly don't seem to have a ~7-8 mail/sec limitation. :)
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be switching back to Akamai soon. :)
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for Savvis and/or MS to
get their act together. :)
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.
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?
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their customers. We have far too many people who sit around wringing
their hands about how horrible the botnets are, but who won't tell anyone
who can do anything about it out of a paranoid sense of security. I'm
not sure this is the best way to go about that though. :)
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liable for other people's fraud? Sounds like a disclaimer requirement to
me, nothing related to fraud just good business practice. You must be
confusing this with exotic 900# and international locations which are used
to scam people.
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.
I'm not sure which part of this seems to have nothing to do with toll
scams wasn't clear the first time around, but this response still seems
to have no basis given the facts...
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On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 04:05:30AM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
Sounds like the standard notice that all reputable ISPs are probably
already giving. Given the very real potential for grandma and grandpa to
pick a number off a list which
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 04:19:25AM -0400, Eric A. Hall wrote:
On 8/18/2005 3:54 AM, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
I'm not sure which part of this seems to have nothing to do with toll
scams wasn't clear the first time around, but this response still seems
to have no basis given
on the phone until they address the problem. If not, take a stab at
it that WCG is the most interested party in getting it fixed, and try
nagging them some more. :)
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numbers. Are you stupider than a monkey?
- Simpsons
If that doesn't summarize this argument, and this thread, I don't know
what will.
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be absurd.
Ironically, the cost of linking the different carriers who are in
different buildings within the same metro area in all the cities necessary
is probably right up there with the cost of the longhaul itself. :)
Bottom line about latency, gamers don't pay the bills.
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backbone network. Of course,
your congested cable modem with 30ms of jitter even during normal
operation trying to get to you from down the street doesn't fit the same
model. :)
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the flow control mechanisms of the higher level
protocols (like TCP) to slow down.
Plenty of folks who enjoy math have done lots of research on the subject,
and there are lots of pretty graphs out there. Perhaps someone will come
up with a link to one. :)
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than networks who have capacity.
But @#$% does happen even to the best of us, my take is that there is no
point being so macho about it that you won't use a little technology to
reduce the pain when it does happen.
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, which a
lot of people do. Of course if you don't (for example:
http://www.cogentco.com/htdocs/map.php), the only way you're going west is
through NYC/Boston. Expect a bad day in terms of latency if that happens.
:)
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abuse tracking/reporting. Basically you'd be making a general
pain in the ass out of yourself, so hopefully you have a damn good reason
for it. :)
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