Re: Big meetings should never be held at noon!

2002-06-27 Thread Simon Leinen
are actually interested in, it may not even be too inefficient. -- Simon Leinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] SWITCH http://www.switch.ch/misc/leinen/ Computers hate being anthropomorphized.

Re: Network Routing without Cisco or Juniper?

2002-09-04 Thread Simon Leinen
On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 05:30:46 -0400 (EDT), jeffrey.arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Foundry makes a very good, very stable bgp speaker. I've had them in my network alongside cisco's and juniper's for a couple of years now, and i've never run into any bgp implementation problems that i would

Re: High Speed IP-Sec - Summary

2003-06-11 Thread Simon Leinen
For the sake of completeness, Sun just announced a new Crypto accelerator board with GigE interfaces that does SSL and IPSec VPNs, and claims 800 Mb/s bulk 3DES encryption: http://www.sun.com/products/networking/sslaccel/suncryptoaccel4000/index.html -- Simon.

Re: Advice/Experience with small sized DDWM gear

2003-06-21 Thread Simon Leinen
Deepak Jain writes: [a response with excellent pieces of advice on CWDM vs. DWDM.] If you are planning more than just 1 DF run, you could buy the less expensive solution and just swap it out when you need something more and use the CWDM solution somewhere else. Yes. What we often do

Re: /24s run amuck

2004-01-15 Thread Simon Leinen
Frank Louwers writes: On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 04:12:13PM -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Filtering on a /20 or whatever (up to /24) is a bad thing because RIPE (and maybe APNIC) actually gives out /24 PI space, that comes out of RIPE's /8's, not your upstream's /20 or /16 or /whatever...

Re: netsky issue.

2004-03-09 Thread Simon Leinen
these IP addresses should actually be blocked. I'd recommend against it, due to collateral damage and more general end-to-end arguments. -- Simon Leinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] SWITCH http://www.switch.ch/misc/leinen/ Computers

Re: IPv6 IGP

2004-04-09 Thread Simon Leinen
We use OSPFv3 on our backbone (OSPFv2 for IPv4, separate routing processes but largely identical metric/timeout configuration) using mostly 12.2(17d)SXB on Catalyst 6500/7600 OSRs and various 12.3T (pre-)releases on 7200/7500. Works fine. -- Simon.

Re: TCP/BGP vulnerability - easier than you think

2004-04-28 Thread Simon Leinen
Priscilla, Questions arose while trying to explain proposed TCP fixes to my students. Can y'all help me with these? We were going over the Transmission Control Protocol security considerations draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure-00.txt document here when the questions arose:

Re: best effort has economic problems

2004-05-31 Thread Simon Leinen
Mikael Abrahamsson writes: Tier 1 operators do not do best effort really, at least not in their cores (and they have the SLAs to back it up). They buy hugely expensive top notch gear (Cisco 12000 (and now CRS:s) and Junipers) to get the big packet buffers, the fast reroutes and the full

Re: a small note for the Internet archives

2004-05-31 Thread Simon Leinen
Peter Lothberg writes: [...] Optics type: VSR2000-3R2 (2km) Clock source: line (actual) line (configured) Optical Power Monitoring (accuracy: +/- 1dB) Rx power = 1562.3280 mW, 31.9 dBm Ouch! Some amplifiers you have there... Tx power = 15.4640 mW, 11.9

Re: Internet speed report...

2004-09-06 Thread Simon Leinen
Michael Dillon writes: In the paper http://klamath.stanford.edu/~keslassy/download/tr04_hpng_060800_sizing.pdf That's also in the (shorter) SIGCOMM'04 version of the paper. they state as follows: - While we have evidence that buffers can be made smaller, we haven't

Re: Internet speed report...

2004-09-06 Thread Simon Leinen
Mikael Abrahamsson writes: On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, Simon Leinen wrote: Rather than over-dimensioning the backbone for two or three users (the Petabyte crowd), I'd prefer making them happy with a special TCP. Tune your max window size so it won't be able to use more than say 60% of the total

Re: How to Blocking VoIP ( H.323) ?

2004-11-12 Thread Simon Leinen
Robert Mathews writes: On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Alexei Roudnev wrote: Hmm - just introduce some jitter into your network, and add random delay to the short packets - and no VoIP in your company -:). Alexei: How exactly then would anyone implement this, without screwing-up the overall

Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?

2004-11-12 Thread Simon Leinen
Daniel Roesen writes: On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:19:36PM +0100, Simon Leinen wrote: On Solaris, you would use the token option (see the extract from man ifconfig output below). You can simply put token ::1234:5678 into /etc/hostname6.bge0. I assume that other sane OSes have similar

Re: The Cidr Report

2004-11-13 Thread Simon Leinen
Daniel Roesen writes: Well, it boils down that if you have enough customers, you seem to get away with about any antisocial behaviour on the net. You don't need to have many customers, it's just more fun if you have a larger space that you can deaggregate. Since everybody stopped filtering

Re: DNS Timeout Errors

2004-12-09 Thread Simon Leinen
Jay, Is anyone else experiencing DNS timeout errors. I've tried using multiple name resolvers, and tested multiple domain names using different name servers, and I keep getting name not found errors. Trying the same domain name a second time, and it resolves ok. This all started a few

Re: Tracking spoofed routes?

2005-01-06 Thread Simon Leinen
Arife Vural writes: [in response to Florian Frotzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:] To my knowledge, the myas-tool/-service from RIPE NCC is kind of doing what you like to achive. MyASN is working on user-based. To get the alarm for unexpected routing patterns, you should set it up an account

Re: Two questions [controlling broadcast storms netflow software]; seeking offlist responses

2005-05-05 Thread Simon Leinen
Drew Weaver writes: Also the other question I had was are there any very good either open source or fairly affordable netflow analyzer software packages out there right now? Making a recommendation is difficult, because there is such a wide variety of requirements, depending on context

Re: IPv6 push doesn't have much pull in U.S

2005-07-22 Thread Simon Leinen
Christopher L Morrow writes: On Sat, 16 Jul 2005, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: And I'm sure Sprint and Verio (MCI/Worldcom/UUNET too? I have a I know verio does, Sprint I believe also does, and UUNET does... everyone has restrictions on the service though (native or tunnel'd type

IPv6 traffic numbers [was: Re: OT - Vint Cerf joins Google]

2005-09-12 Thread Simon Leinen
[CC'ing Stanislav Shalunov, who does the Internet2 weekly reports.] Marshall Eubanks writes, in response to Jordi's 8% IPv6 anecdote: These estimates seem way high and need support. Here is a counter-example. While I'm also skeptical about the representativeness of Jordi's estimates, this is a

Re: Level 3's side of the story

2005-10-16 Thread Simon Leinen
Kevin Loch writes: Does anyone have reachability data for c-root during this episode? The RIPE NCC DNSMON service has some: http://dnsmon.ripe.net/dns-servmon/server/plot?server=c.root-servers.nettype=dropststart=1128246543tstop=1128972253 According to BGPlay for that particular prefix from

Re: Deploying 6to4 outbound routes at the border

2005-10-16 Thread Simon Leinen
Daniel Roesen writes: On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 10:45:33PM -0400, Todd Vierling wrote: Maybe to start -- but again, what kind of 6to4 traffic level are we expecting yet? Peak or average? Think twice before answering. :-) I'm told there are 6to4 relays seeing in excess of 100mbps. Not

Re: Split flows across Domains

2006-01-25 Thread Simon Leinen
Robert E Seastrom writes: Yes and no. CEF is {src, dst} hash IIRC, and per-flow usually means {src, srcport, dst, dstport, [proto, tos]} hash in my experience. Correct. The Catalyst 6500/7600 OSR with Sup2/Sup32/Sup720 can be configured to hash based on L4 ports in addition to the IP

Re: How to measure network qualityperformance for voipgameservers (udp packetloss, delay, jitter,...)

2006-03-10 Thread Simon Leinen
Gunther Stammwitz writes: == Which tools (under linux) are you using in order to measure your own network ore on of your upstreams in terms of gameability or voip-usage? My favorite tool for assessing delay distribution and loss over time is Tobi Oetiker's (of MRTG fame) SmokePing

Re: Best practices inquiry: tracking SSH host keys

2006-06-29 Thread Simon Leinen
Jeroen Massar writes: The answer to your question: RFC4255 Using DNS to Securely Publish Secure Shell (SSH) Key Fingerprints http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4255.txt Yes, that's cool if your SSH client supports it (recent OpenSSH's do). You will only need to stuff the FP's into SSHFP DNS RR's

Re: update bogon routes

2006-07-27 Thread Simon Leinen
Miguel, We have had some problems of being beaten back. Our space, being annocunced by AS 16592, is 190.5.128.0/19 I only see 190.5.128.0/21, and because it is our policy to ignore more-specifics from PA space (including anything more specific than /21 from 190.0.0.0/8 and the other LACNIC

Re: [routing-wg]BGP Update Report

2006-09-13 Thread Simon Leinen
Marshall Eubanks writes: In a typical flight Europe / China I believe that there would be order 10-15 satellite transponder / ground station changes. The satellite footprints count for more that the geography. What I remember from the Connexion presentations is that they used only four ground

Re: [routing-wg]BGP Update Report

2006-09-13 Thread Simon Leinen
Vince Fuller writes: On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 12:32:57PM +0200, Oliver Bartels wrote: Ceterum censeo: Nevertheless this moving-clients application shows some demand for a true-location-independend IP-addresses announcement feature (provider independend roaming) in IPv6, as in v4 (even thru

Re: The Cidr Report

2006-11-10 Thread Simon Leinen
cidr-report writes: Recent Table History Date PrefixesCIDR Agg 03-11-06199409 129843 [...] 10-11-06 134555024 129854 Growth of the global routing table really picked up pace this week! (But maybe I'm just hallucinating for having heard the

Re: Home media servers, AUPs, and upstream bandwidth utilization.

2006-12-25 Thread Simon Leinen
Lionel Elie Mamane writes: On Mon, Dec 25, 2006 at 12:44:37AM +, Jeroen Massar wrote: That said ISP's should simply have a package saying 50GiB/month costs XX euros, 100GiB/month costs double etc. As that covers what their transits are charging them, nothing more, nothing less. I

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-10 Thread Simon Leinen
Alexander Harrowell writes: For example: France Telecom's consumer ISP in France (Wanadoo) is pushing out lots and lots of WLAN boxes to its subs, which it brands Liveboxes. As well as the router, they also carry their carrier-VoIP and IPTV STB functions. [...] Right, and the French ADSL

Re: TCP and WAN issue

2007-03-28 Thread Simon Leinen
Andre Oppermann gave the best advice so far IMHO. I'll add a few points. To quickly sum up the facts and to dispell some misinformation: - TCP is limited the delay bandwidth product and the socket buffer sizes. Hm... what about: The TCP socket buffer size limits the achievable

Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet

2007-04-13 Thread Simon Leinen
Ah, large MTUs. Like many other academic backbones, we implemented large (9192 bytes) MTUs on our backbone and 9000 bytes on some hosts. See [1] for an illustration. Here are *my* current thoughts on increasing the Internet MTU beyond its current value, 1500. (On the topic, see also [2] - a

Re: from the academic side of the house

2007-04-25 Thread Simon Leinen
Steven M Bellovin writes: Jim Shankland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (2) Getting this kind of throughput seems to depend on a fast physical layer, plus some link-layer help (jumbo packets), plus careful TCP tuning to deal with the large bandwidth-delay product. The IP layer sits between the

Re: from the academic side of the house

2007-04-26 Thread Simon Leinen
Tony Li writes: On Apr 25, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Simon Leinen wrote: Routing table lookups(*) are what's most relevant here, [...] Actually, what's most relevant here is the ability to get end-hosts to run at rate. Packet forwarding at line rate has been demonstrated for quite awhile now

Re: Bandwidth Augmentation Triggers

2007-05-01 Thread Simon Leinen
Jason Frisvold writes: I'm working on a system to alert when a bandwidth augmentation is needed. I've looked at using both true averages and 95th percentile calculations. I'm wondering what everyone else uses for this purpose? We use a secret formula, aka rules of thumb, based on perceived

Re: TransAtlantic Cable Break

2007-06-24 Thread Simon Leinen
Leo Bicknell writes: However, if you put 15G down your 20G path, you have no redundancy. In a cut, dropping 5G on the floor, causing 33% packet loss is not up, it might as well be down. Sorry, it doesn't work like that either. 33% packet loss is an upper limit, but not what you'd see in

Re: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial

2008-01-20 Thread Simon Leinen
Frank Bulk writes: Except if the cable companies want to get rid of the 5% of heavy users, they can't raise the prices for that 5% and recover their costs. The MSOs want it win-win: they'll bring prices for metered access slightly lower than unlimited access, making it attractive for a

Re: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial

2008-01-20 Thread Simon Leinen
Stupid typo in my last message, sorry. While I think this is basically a sound approach, I'm skeptical that *slightly* lowering prices will be sufficient to convert 80% of the user base from flat to unmetered pricing. [...] METERED pricing, of course. -- Simon.

Re: YouTube IP Hijacking

2008-02-26 Thread Simon Leinen
Iljitsch van Beijnum writes: Well, if they had problems like this in the past, then I wouldn't trust them to get it right. Which means that it's probably a good idea if EVERYONE starts filtering what they allow in their tables from PCCW. Obviously that makes it very hard for PCCW to start

Re: hijack chronology: was [ YouTube IP Hijacking ]

2008-02-26 Thread Simon Leinen
Martin A Brown writes: Late last night, after poring through our data, I posted a detailed chronology of the hijack as seen from our many peering sessions. I would add to this that the speed of YouTube's response to this subprefix hijack impressed me. For a Sunday afternoon, yes, not bad.

Re: YouTube IP Hijacking

2008-02-26 Thread Simon Leinen
Rick Astley writes: Anything more specific than a /24 would get blocked by many filters, so some of the high target sites may want to announce their mission critical IP space as /24 and avoid using prepends. Good idea. But only the high target sites, please. If you're an unimportant site