Re: SEA-ME-WE-4 cut ?

2008-05-27 Thread Chris McDonald
SMW4 Cable segment 1.1 cable fault A cable fault was observed on SMW4 Seg. 1.1 (Singapore - Branching Unit #1A) at 03:15GMT on 26-May. The fault point is about 46km from TUAS Singapore cable station. Services will resume upon cable repair complete. Cable ship Asean Restorer was mobilized for

Re: IOS Rookit: the sky isn't falling (yet)

2008-05-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 27 May 2008 11:02:32 CDT, Gadi Evron said: On Tue, 27 May 2008, Jared Mauch wrote: *yawn* I guess we will wait for the next one before waking up, than. No Gadi. What Jared is saying is that there are exactly *ZERO* routers (for some infinitesimally small value of zero) that will

Re: IOS Rookit: the sky isn't falling (yet)

2008-05-27 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Tue, May 27, 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's basically 2 classes of Cisco routers out there: 1) Ones managed by Jared and similarly clued people, who can quite rightfully yawn because the specter of IOS rootkits changes nothing in their actual threat model - they put stuff in

Re: IOS Rookit: the sky isn't falling (yet)

2008-05-27 Thread Sean Donelan
On Tue, 27 May 2008, Gadi Evron wrote: Perhaps the above should be simplified. Running a hacked/modded IOS version is a dangerous prospect. This seems like such a non-event because what is the exploit path to load the image? There needs to be a primary exploit to load the malware image.

Re: IOS Rookit: the sky isn't falling (yet)

2008-05-27 Thread Chris Grundemann
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Adrian Chadd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bloody network people, always assuming their network security stops at their router. So nowthat someone's done the hard lifting to backdoor an IOS binary, and I'm assuming you all either upgrade by downloading from the

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Re: IOS Rookit: the sky isn't falling (yet)

2008-05-27 Thread goemon
On Tue, 27 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2008 11:24:19 MDT, Chris Grundemann said: Like MD5 File Validation? - MD5 values are now made available on Cisco.com for all Cisco IOS software images for comparison against local system image values. That does wonders for catching a

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2008-05-27 Thread Patrick Muldoon
On May 27, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Pederson, Krishna wrote: Really now ... why we using [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Totally messed up my mail filtering system. Sometime last week people started sending TO or CC'ing [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can we go

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2008-05-27 Thread Scott Weeks
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- From: Tim Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Same gripe here... ---Original Message--- From: Pederson, Krishna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Really now ... why we using [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Totally messed up my mail filtering

Re: Fake-alert: VERIFY YOUR MERIT.EDU WEBMAIL ACCOUNT

2008-05-27 Thread Michael Holstein
We never figured out how the accounts were compromised. I suspect another .edu here .. how we've seen it happen is we get blasted by one of those verify your email account messages. despite our countless efforts at user education about responding to this stuff, a dozen or so people always

RE: amazonaws.com?

2008-05-27 Thread Robert Bonomi
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 27 12:06:50 2008 Subject: RE: amazonaws.com? Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:08:16 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the address-space owner won't police it's own property, there is no reason for the rest of the world to spend the

Re: IOS Rookit: the sky isn't falling (yet)

2008-05-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 27 May 2008 19:49:21 BST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Like MD5 File Validation? - MD5 values are now made=20 available on Cisco.com for all Cisco IOS software images for=20 comparison against local system image values. I would expect a real exploit to try to match Cisco's MD5 hashes.

Re: amazonaws.com?

2008-05-27 Thread Colin Alston
On 27/05/2008 20:53 Robert Bonomi wrote: Because the _privilege_ to send packets to other networks has been, from 'day one', conditional on the presumption that the sending network _is_ a good neighbor to the networks receiving their traffic. You need to wake up Dorothy, this isn't Kansas

Re: [NANOG] Fiber Cut at 60 Hudson

2008-05-27 Thread Robert Blayzor
On May 27, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Bill McGonigle wrote: I've also heard contradictory information from Level3 reps on some of the above, so I'm not asserting any accuracy for it; so just FYI. Maybe they finally got to looking into your problem and unplugged the fiber labeled 'Vermont' by

Re: IPV6 network feeds

2008-05-27 Thread sthaug
Verizon provides ipv6 connectivity according to their website. I mentioned this on another list, but if anybody has tried to actually turn the words referred to above into service, I would be very happy to hear about how they did it. Att most likely does as well. The last time I

ATT IPv6 Network Initialization/Assignment Contact?

2008-05-27 Thread Jonathan Traylor
Heya NANOG members, I have a client with ATT Metro DIA services who are looking to add routable IPv6 services. We need an ATT contact who will have the knowledge and ability to coordinate IPv6 netblock assignments and delegate static routes to the IPv6 addresses assigned. As well as provide

Re: IPV6 network feeds

2008-05-27 Thread Martin Hannigan
You didn't say native was required and a tunnel might be ok for testing. Try Hurricane Electric's Tunnel Broker. Your favorite search engine will find it ie 'Hurricane Electric Tunnel Broker' IIRC. -M. - Original Message - From: Mike Linsenmayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: IOS Rookit: the sky isn't falling (yet)

2008-05-27 Thread goemon
On Tue, 27 May 2008, Sean Donelan wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you want is cisco hardware that verifies firmware signatures in hardware. Of course, how do you know your hardware hasn't been compromised? http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2008/February/08_crm_150.html

RE: IOS Rookit: the sky isn't falling (yet)

2008-05-27 Thread michael.dillon
If you were an attacker, which would you go with: 1) The brute-force attack which will require hundreds of thousands of CPU-years. In this case an attacker would definitely go with this option. Since they can't change most of the IOS bytes because they contain IOS and the exploit, they

Re: IOS Rookit: the sky isn't falling (yet)

2008-05-27 Thread Sean Donelan
On Tue, 27 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you buying directly from cisco or from resellers? If you are getting counterfeit hardware directly from cisco then I guess we have real problems. According to the FBI presentation, which may not be a reliable source for this topic, Cisco has

RE: IPV6 network feeds

2008-05-27 Thread michael.dillon
Similarly, we have had no problems with ordering v6 transit from NTT America, Global Crossing or Teleglobe in North America (also, Tiscali in Europe, and FLAG in Asia). In each case v6 transit was treated as a routine provisioning exercise, with no need for escalation to obscure

Oregon/Washington Comcast outage

2008-05-27 Thread Kameron Gasso
Looks like I can't reach several of Comcast's fiber/coax customers in Oregon and Washington: grps-edge-rtr-1#trace 75.145.64.XXX Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to 75-145-64-XXX-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (75.145.64.XXX) 1 fa-6-0.grps-edge-rtr-2.visp.net

Re: IPV6 network feeds

2008-05-27 Thread Andrew Dorsett
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Mike Linsenmayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for a IPV6 internet feed for our testing labs in Southern California, I know this is off subject but I am a little exasperated in trying to locate one. if anyone on the list knows of a provider please

Re: IPV6 network feeds

2008-05-27 Thread Martin Hannigan
I think HE does native as well. Likely good based on their rep. Best, Marty - Original Message - From: Andrew Dorsett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Sent: Tue May 27 20:27:42 2008 Subject: Re: IPV6 network feeds On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Mike

RE: Oregon/Washington Comcast outage

2008-05-27 Thread Darryl Dunkin
Here is the reverse view from one of my systems on residential Comcast in the Everett/Mill Creek area (source is 76.121.150.xxx): Tracing route to 208.74.128.9 over a maximum of 30 hops 11 ms1 ms1 ms 192.168.254.254 2 *** Request timed out. 3 9 ms

Re: IOS Rookit: the sky isn't falling (yet)

2008-05-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 27 May 2008 20:45:11 BST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 1) The brute-force attack which will require hundreds of thousands of CPU-years. Millions. Not thousands. See below. In this case an attacker would definitely go with this option. Since they can't change most of the IOS bytes

Re: IOS Rookit: the sky isn't falling (yet)

2008-05-27 Thread Gadi Evron
On Tue, 27 May 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2008 11:02:32 CDT, Gadi Evron said: On Tue, 27 May 2008, Jared Mauch wrote: *yawn* I guess we will wait for the next one before waking up, than. No Gadi. What Jared is saying is that there are exactly *ZERO* routers (for some

Re: IOS Rookit: running hacked binaries certainly places you at risk!

2008-05-27 Thread Gadi Evron
On Tue, 27 May 2008, Jared Mauch wrote: On May 27, 2008, at 12:02 PM, Gadi Evron wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2008, Jared Mauch wrote: On May 27, 2008, at 8:42 AM, Alexander Harrowell wrote: An alternative rootkit ? Privilege level 16 used by the Lawful Intercept [12] feature could be abused to

Re: Hurricane season starts June 1: Carriers harden networks

2008-05-27 Thread Deepak Jain
The official spokespeople don't mention it, but there is also a tendency for local officials to divert fuel delivery trucks for their use instead of maintaining communication facilities. Perhaps a company will get in the business of labeling trucks that normally say fuel to something

Re: IOS Rookit: the sky isn't falling (yet)

2008-05-27 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 15:46:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 27 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you buying directly from cisco or from resellers? If you are getting counterfeit hardware directly from cisco then I guess we have real problems.

Re: Hurricane season starts June 1: Carriers harden networks

2008-05-27 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
The official spokespeople don't mention it, but there is also a tendency for local officials to divert fuel delivery trucks for their use instead of maintaining communication facilities. Perhaps a company will get in the business of labeling trucks that normally say fuel to

Re: IPV6 network feeds

2008-05-27 Thread Jeroen Massar
Mike Linsenmayer wrote: Hey all, I am looking for a IPV6 internet feed for our testing labs in Southern California, I know this is off subject but I am a little exasperated in trying to locate one. if anyone on the list knows of a provider please contact me off list. My queue to spam: =

Re: Hurricane season starts June 1: Carriers harden networks

2008-05-27 Thread Jared Mauch
On May 27, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: The official spokespeople don't mention it, but there is also a tendency for local officials to divert fuel delivery trucks for their use instead of maintaining communication facilities. Perhaps a company will get in the

Re: Hurricane season starts June 1: Carriers harden networks

2008-05-27 Thread Jared Mauch
On May 27, 2008, at 6:47 PM, Jerry Dixon wrote: Jared nailed it on the head. It is absolutely critical to get to know who your State JFO POC is, State EOC POC, and have the National Communication Systems Hotline on speed dial or at least in your cell. They can help facilitate needs such

Re: [Outages] Oregon/Washington Comcast outage

2008-05-27 Thread Kameron Gasso
Michael Acosta wrote: As a Comcast customer in the NW, I see the same thing outbound. Traceroute to some sites die in glbx, and other sites work via other transit providers. Looks like whatever the SNAFU between Comcast and GLBX was, it's been resolved for some time now... :) Cheers, --

RE: Oregon/Washington Comcast outage

2008-05-27 Thread Steve Pirk
I have a Comcast business line, and have bbeen up all day. Here is my trace to the same IP (from Bremerton WA): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ traceroute 208.74.128.9 traceroute to 208.74.128.9 (208.74.128.9), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 73.96.188.1 (73.96.188.1) 8.051 ms 11.888 ms 6.731 ms 2

Re: Hurricane season starts June 1: Carriers harden networks

2008-05-27 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
On May 27, 2008, at 6:47 PM, Jerry Dixon wrote: Jared nailed it on the head. It is absolutely critical to get to know who your State JFO POC is, State EOC POC, and have the National Communication Systems Hotline on speed dial or at least in your cell. They can help

[NANOG-announce] Program Committee Nominations

2008-05-27 Thread Todd Underwood
Attached are all of the the current nominations to the nanog program committee. comments in support (or opposition) to any candidate can be made to the nanog steering committee [EMAIL PROTECTED] (if you submitted a nomination and you do not see it here, please notify me immediately, resend it

Re: ATT BGP blackholing

2008-05-27 Thread Brian Wallingford
If you're a direct customer, use your MIS contact. We've used them for nearly 8 years, and I've been consistently impressed. If not, your upstream should be your first point of contact. For maintenance (e.g., prefix-list mods) they tend to take their time unless you insist on expedition; but,