Re: Force10 E300 vs. Juniper MX480

2008-07-18 Thread Chris Marlatt
Joe Abley wrote: Hi all, An acquaintance who runs an ISP with an M7i on its border is looking to upgrade, because the M7i is starting to creak from all the flesh-tone MPEGs his customers are sharing. (How times have changed. Back when I was chasing packets, it was flesh-tone JPEGs.) He's

BGP Update Report

2008-07-18 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 16-Jun-08 -to- 17-Jul-08 (32 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS2.0 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS4538 214212 2.8% 42.8 -- ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Research Network Center 2

The Cidr Report

2008-07-18 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jul 18 21:14:57 2008 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

Re: Force10 E300 vs. Juniper MX480

2008-07-18 Thread Keith O'neill
Force 10 is fine. I do suggest he go with the dual cam cards over the regular cards. I am not sure what Chris is talking about but I have used Force 10 for a long time, E, C and S series and have found it very stable. It will do everything you want and then some. The E300 is a good bang for

Re: Force10 E300 vs. Juniper MX480

2008-07-18 Thread John Sweeting
I certainly agree with Keith and we are pushing a lot of traffic through our Force10 boxes i.e. E1200's, E600's and a few E300's. As a company they are wery responsive and easy to work with. Dual cam is definitely recommended. - Original Message - From: Keith O'neill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Force10 E300 vs. Juniper MX480

2008-07-18 Thread Chris Marlatt
Keith O'neill wrote: Force 10 is fine. I do suggest he go with the dual cam cards over the regular cards. I am not sure what Chris is talking about but I have used Force 10 for a long time, E, C and S series and have found it very stable. It will do everything you want and then some. The E300

Re: Force10 E300 vs. Juniper MX480

2008-07-18 Thread Chris Heighway
I worked with many Foundry models for more than 4 years in the past and never had any real serious issues. They used to be a bit loud but other than that they are very easy to manage solid devices. Another great thing with Foundry (again in my experience) is the support. Any time I ever had a real

Cisco vs Adtran vs Juniper

2008-07-18 Thread Paul Stewart
Hi there.. I'm looking for some constructive feedback on **real world** experiences please... We're primarily a Cisco shop today - our core and distribution are all Cisco driven and will continue to be (won't change that so not worth discussing today). My question is oriented towards two other

Re: Cisco vs Adtran vs Juniper

2008-07-18 Thread Chris Heighway
On your last note Cisco also offers a all-in-one with all the features you talked about and more. They are called UC500's. _Chris On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Paul Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there.. I'm looking for some constructive feedback on **real world** experiences

Re: OT: GBIC compatibility and pricing (was Managed, cheap, DC power switches)

2008-07-18 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 04:31:44PM -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: Specifically, that rep (Bill Billings) told me that a *firware upgrade* broke compatibility with the old GBICs, which *originally* worked, and he ended up eating nearly 300 of them at one point. On a related topic, I walked the

RE: Cisco vs Adtran vs Juniper

2008-07-18 Thread Paul Stewart
Thanks guys so far for the responses Adtran has a 5 year warranty and support for free as of today - I'm not aware of this changing but we've had a number of other companies change that policy in the past couple of years after purchasing a LOT of gear from them (Motorola, Redline come to mind

RE: Cisco vs Adtran vs Juniper

2008-07-18 Thread Eric Van Tol
-Original Message- From: Paul Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:48 AM To: Smith, Steve B; Chris Heighway Cc: nanog Subject: RE: Cisco vs Adtran vs Juniper Thanks guys so far for the responses Adtran has a 5 year warranty and support for free as

RE: Cisco vs Adtran vs Juniper

2008-07-18 Thread Paul Stewart
It could be 10 years.. not 100% sure 5 or 10 still makes a dent in Cisco's approach to be honest... Still wondering if anyone knows how the Cisco lifetime warranty really works...? Thanks again, Paul -Original Message- From: Eric Van Tol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

RE: Force10 E300 vs. Juniper MX480

2008-07-18 Thread Martin Hannigan
-Original Message- From: Eric Van Tol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:03 AM To: 'Keith O'neill' Cc: nanog Subject: RE: Force10 E300 vs. Juniper MX480 -Original Message- From: Keith O'neill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008

Ubiquity-Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, Can someone at Ubiquity or Mzima fix this routing loop: traceroute to hg.atheme.org (72.37.225.164), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 64.62.134.193 12.402 ms 12.370 ms 12.363 ms 2 ge5-0.cr01.ord01.mzima.net (206.223.119.62) 16.003 ms 15.985 ms 15.964 ms 3

Re: Ubiquity-Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread William Pitcock
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 13:32 -0700, Aaron Glenn wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:02 PM, William Pitcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Sadly, I don't have any contact with either one, but I do need to be able to access that server, and it's responsible admin is no where to be found.

Re: Independent Testing for Network Hardware

2008-07-18 Thread Sean Hafeez
IXIA makes a nice product depending on what you want to do. I have one here with some 10G line cards. -Sean On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Frank P. Troy wrote: I can recommend Isocore http://www.isocore.com/ (the same folks that run the MPLS conference). Talk to Rajiv Papneja [EMAIL

Re: Ubiquity-Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread Joe Provo
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:49:25PM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: [snip] I'm aware what side it's on. However, I didn't have contact information for an actual human on either side of the link, so I posted on [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] There's a lot of rolodex resources out there that can get you

Re: Ubiquity-Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread Paul Wall
I'd like to rip on Mzima as much as the next guy, but I'm not sure how they could fix this routing loop, shy of some creative ACLs. You should try contacting Ubiquity, as this traceroute looks like an issue on their (Mzima's customer's) side. Paul Wall On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:27 PM, William

Re: Ubiquity-Mzima routing loop

2008-07-18 Thread Guy_Shields
No, a true routing loop will transit several hops and end back up at the same routers. A bouncing route between 2 routers is usually a directly connected route on an interface that goes down thereby pulling the route with out a nail down route it will send unkown route back out its default