Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeered at 2:25am est

2008-09-21 Thread James Thomas
Hmmm Seems Pacific bit the bullett around 2:25 est all annoucements were dropped. http://cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=AS27595v=4view=2.0 I would ask for comment by Intercage staff but they don't have email. Emil is unresponsive via phone, James

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeered at 2:25am est

2008-09-21 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- James Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm Seems Pacific bit the bullett around 2:25 est all annoucements were dropped. http://cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=AS27595v=4view=2.0 While this is 'good' news, don't be foooled -- many of

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread Emil Kacperski
Hello, It's true that David from PIE disconnected our link approx 9pm or so yesterday.  Things were going perfect, no complaints for a few weeks now.  The only thing I believe is that NTT gave lots of pressure to PIE.  For some unknown reason when I tried to reach out to the security guy at

RE: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread James Thomas
Emil, You have a lot of loyal legit customers. What's your plans? Seems like your taking action against the bad clients which is great. Where does this leave Intercage? You seeking alternative routes currently? Offering refunds to those loyal clients? James -Original Message- From:

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Emil Kacperski wrote: It's true that David from PIE disconnected our link approx 9pm or so yesterday. Things were going perfect, no complaints for a few weeks now. The only thing I believe is that NTT gave lots of pressure to PIE. For some unknown reason when I tried to reach out to the

RE: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread Emil Kacperski
Hey James, That's the worst part in all this, so many been with me for years!  I just put my fate into companies I shouldn't have.  NLayer was bought and Liteup held control of the SF pop, who is fully at the mercy of NLayer / ServerCentral.  WVFiber was bought by Host.NET and Randy simply

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread Matt Jonkman
Had you responded to the hundreds of abuse complaints over the years this would not have happened. Sorry, no sympathy for you or the customers not smart enough to move over the last few years of very overt negative news about you. Matt Emil Kacperski wrote: Hey James, That's the worst part

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread Emil Kacperski
Matt, Don't believe everything you read.  I have unfortunately been a target over the years because I rented machines to Esthost.  But the stories made up are way out there. It's all very easy a dedicated server / customer relationship - nothing more. Never did I ignore anymore from the abuse

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread Patrick W . Gilmore
On Sep 21, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Emil Kacperski wrote: Don't believe everything you read. Most excellent advice. [SNIP] -- TTFN, patrick

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Considering the years of abuse, DNSBL listings, ROKSO listings, further abuse, and silence at the abuse switch, I _CERTAINLY_ would not send Atrivo abuse reports, I would send them to the upstreams instead. Considering the almost 40 page white paper produced last month on the abuse from

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread William Pitcock
Greetings, I can further vouch for this... an unusually large amount of botnets reported to DroneBL have command and control servers on Atrivo's network. With the amount of listings and reports I get, it is obvious that Atrivo does not care about the abuse@ inbox... which is unfortunate.

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread Matt Jonkman
Emil Kacperski wrote: Don't believe everything you read. I have unfortunately been a target over the years because I rented machines to Esthost. But the stories made up are way out there. It's all very easy a dedicated server / customer relationship - nothing more. I don't have to

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread Russell Mitchell
Hello all, Andrew: It is truly enlightening, to say the least, that you want to talk about all of the SBL Listings, all of the DNSBL Listings, and all of the abuse on our network has never had action taken. - In Spamhaus' article, they did a history of more then ?350? SBL Listings for

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeered at 2:25am est

2008-09-21 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008, Paul Ferguson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- James Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm Seems Pacific bit the bullett around 2:25 est all annoucements were dropped. http://cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=AS27595v=4view=2.0 While this is

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread Russell Mitchell
William: To date, I have never heard of the DroneBL. I have NEVER received any report from any entity referring to that. The last report for a bot on our network was an EggDrop bot a week or so ago. The report was from the IRC Network Operator, and asked to have it removed from his network

RE: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread James Thomas
Russell, I really think Atrivo/Intercage has been doing great after reports and community public action. I'm still puzzled as to the why they are still targetting you? I have a few friends who have machines with you so and they run legitimate companies with over 4 machines. Emil

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008, Russell Mitchell wrote: Hello all, Andrew: It is truly enlightening, to say the least, that you want to talk about all of the SBL Listings, all of the DNSBL Listings, and all of the abuse on our network has never had action taken. Don't kick someone when they are down.

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeered at 2:25am est

2008-09-21 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- Gadi Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=AS27595v=4view=2.0 While this is 'good' news, don't be foooled -- many of these prefixes have been migrated elsewhere, much the same way criminal activity was

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Gadi Evron wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2008, Russell Mitchell wrote: Hello all, Andrew: It is truly enlightening, to say the least, that you want to talk about all of the SBL Listings, all of the DNSBL Listings, and all of the abuse on our network has never had action taken. Don't kick someone

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread Matt Jonkman
Russell Mitchell wrote: - Matt: It's very sad that your PROUD of you contribution to the supposed white paper on our company. I'd like to know, was any of your contribution to the report altered, or mis-represented, or are you truly unaware of how false the information you provided

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Russell Mitchell wrote: Andrew: If you have seen how Spamhaus handles our resolved SBL Listings, you would know. Those 6 listings have been resolved for a week now. John Reid and his goons only provide swift LISTINGS, _NOT_ delistings. Possibly why they're so widely used. In the past 12

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

2008-09-21 Thread Russell Mitchell
Matt: I've already put this offer up. I'll be more then happy to meet up at our datacenter and take you through our space. What I find funny is, your the first one whom participated in the recent reports to actually take up and respond to us. I've emailed Garth and Jart, and both of them refused