Using CE Router for Internet and VPN services

2009-07-17 Thread Akhmedd Aly
Hi, can someone explain me why service providers (Internet and/or L3 VPN services) obligate customers to use CE routers. Why they cannot configure more than /30 (in some cases /31) subnet mask on PE interface side for me? In that case I can use cheap L2 switch and use default gateway on all my

Re: Using CE Router for Internet and VPN services

2009-07-17 Thread Peter Hicks
Hello Akhmedd Aly wrote: can someone explain me why service providers (Internet and/or L3 VPN services) obligate customers to use CE routers. Why they cannot configure more than /30 (in some cases /31) subnet mask on PE interface side for me? In that case I can use cheap L2 switch and use

Re: Using CE Router for Internet and VPN services

2009-07-17 Thread Jack Bates
Akhmedd Aly wrote: Please describe all benefits and detriments of using more than /30 subnet on SP PE. Some good links will be very useful for me. Don't know all, but have you see the arp tables on a PE router? Have you seen some of the crazy things devices other than routers can do on

Re: Using CE Router for Internet and VPN services

2009-07-17 Thread sthaug
Please describe all benefits and detriments of using more than /30 subnet on SP PE. Some good links will be very useful for me. Don't know all, but have you see the arp tables on a PE router? Have you seen some of the crazy things devices other than routers can do on ethernet? Good

Re: Border routers

2009-07-17 Thread Livio Zanol Puppim
Thank you guys, This will be useful, but I still have some questions: Where can I see comparations between the routers? Also, where can I find datasheets containing FIB, RIB and BGP routes limits for cisco and Juniper? It is quite dificult! Thanks again! 2009/7/17 Larry Stites

Re: Quick question about inbound route-selection

2009-07-17 Thread Anton Kapela
Drew, (in theory, and based upon number of peers, data): If you have a network with these upstream connections to the Internet you should see inbound traffic utilization in this order: AS   Name - 3356 Level3 7018 ATT 3549 Global Crossing 4323 Time Warner Telecom 10796

Weekly Routing Table Report

2009-07-17 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net For historical data, please see http://thyme.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith

Re: Border routers

2009-07-17 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 02:19:21PM -0300, Livio Zanol Puppim wrote: Thank you guys, This will be useful, but I still have some questions: Where can I see comparations between the routers? Also, where can I find datasheets containing FIB, RIB and BGP routes limits for cisco and Juniper? It is

Re: Border routers

2009-07-17 Thread Benjamin Billon
Cisco routers performance comparison chart: http://www.cisco.com/web/partners/downloads/765/tools/quickreference/routerperformance.pdf If you're interested on 6500/7600 and their supervisors: http://www.cisco.com/web/partners/downloads/765/tools/quickreference/catalyst6000supervisors.pdf Our

Visio diag automations

2009-07-17 Thread Bobby Mac
Hi All: I have to create Visio diagrams for sales engagements for a webhosting provider. I use the same template based on our standard architecture but vary the number/model/detail of the servers. I am sick of the cut-n-paste approach and am wondering who has automated some of these processes.

Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router.

2009-07-17 Thread Jim Wininger
I have an opportuniy to put two 7609s into the core of my network. Currently we have 3 upstream providers, taking full BGP routes. (2 in one router and one in another). We have 17 BGP peers/customers (peering to each router), and adding about one new BGP peer every 2-3 months. It is a modest

RE: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router.

2009-07-17 Thread Peter Kranz
We run the 6509-e platform in this role with Sup720-3bxl's.. and they have been rock solid. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Jim Wininger

Re: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router.

2009-07-17 Thread Steven King
We use the 7600 platform as a Customer Border device. It attaches directly to our core, and directly to our customers. This has been a solid platform. Before this we used to use the 7600 as a load balancer for a DNS cluster. Worked fairly well. We use the 6500 series for our main network

Nexus 7K usage w/VDC, vPC - anybody?

2009-07-17 Thread Stefan
I'd be interested to know if anybody has been using the Cisco N7K platform, especially in vertical consolidation mode (aggr and core as VDCs, and dual Nexus VPC-ed together)? Any comments on this system, even outsde this narrow scope of my previous question? Anybody using these as server access

BGP Update Report

2009-07-17 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 09-Jul-09 -to- 16-Jul-09 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS9198 102617 7.2% 337.6 -- KAZTELECOM-AS Kazakhtelecom Corporate Sales Administration

The Cidr Report

2009-07-17 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jul 17 21:11:56 2009 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

Re: Probes from root servers

2009-07-17 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 03:56:29PM -0700, Pederson, Krishna wrote: One of our IP addresses is being probed by up to 8 of the 13 root dns servers every 15 seconds. I'm looking for input on how to contact the admins for the servers or perhaps a way to figure out if perhaps someone is spoofing

Re: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router.

2009-07-17 Thread Brad Fleming
We don't run very much Cisco gear (none of their larger, hardware stuff) but I have a couple questions for the Cisco gurus out there... According to this page: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps708/product_data_sheet09186a0080159856_ps4835_Products_Data_Sheet.html

Re: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router.

2009-07-17 Thread Jon Lewis
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, Brad Fleming wrote: We don't run very much Cisco gear (none of their larger, hardware stuff) but I have a couple questions for the Cisco gurus out there... According to this page:

Re: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router.

2009-07-17 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 06:07:26PM -0500, Brad Fleming wrote: We don't run very much Cisco gear (none of their larger, hardware stuff) but I have a couple questions for the Cisco gurus out there... According to this page:

Re: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router.

2009-07-17 Thread Kevin Oberman
From: Brad Fleming bdflem...@kanren.net Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:07:26 -0500 We don't run very much Cisco gear (none of their larger, hardware stuff) but I have a couple questions for the Cisco gurus out there... According to this page:

Re: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router.

2009-07-17 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 06:07:26PM -0500, Brad Fleming wrote: That page also reports up to 40 Gbps per slot of switching capacity; 720 Gbps aggregate bandwidth. Is the 40Gbps per slot an aggregate or full-duplex value? Woops, I missed this question. On CEF720 (aka the cards numbered 67xx

Re: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router.

2009-07-17 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Jul 18, 2009, at 4:30 AM, Steven King wrote: We use the 7600 platform as a Customer Border device. The 7600 is actually quite a poor choice as an edge device (any edge) due to its caveats regarding NetFlow, ACLs, and uRPF. It's far better suited to a core role, where it can handle

Re: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router.

2009-07-17 Thread deleskie
Roland, The only issue I have I with your reply is that is somehow still acceptable to not have these features in a core device. -jim --Original Message-- From: Roland Dobbins To: NANOG list Subject: Re: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router. Sent: Jul 18, 2009 1:09 AM On Jul 18,