On Sun, 30 Aug 2009, Randy Bush wrote:
If your 95th percentile utilization is at 80% capacity, it's time to
start planning the upgrade.
s/80/60/
the normal snmp and other averaging methods *really* miss the bursts.
Agreed. Internet traffic is very burtsy. If you care your customer
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:59:34 +1000, Jeff Young said:
Having met more than a few people in government IT, all jokes aside,
I think they're pretty well equipped to know when and if they need to
disconnect from the Internet, even without an executive order.
Department of the Interior had *how*
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 20:28, Steven M. Bellovins...@cs.columbia.edu wrote:
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:20:55 -0400
Eric Brunner-Williams brun...@nic-naa.net wrote:
randy,
moveon is a maine-based org. it is an effective, fund raising,
partisan organization. it is much more than a
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:51:39 CDT, Hiers, David said:
Governments already license stock brokers, pilots, commercial drivers,
accountants, engineers, all sorts of people whose mistakes can be measured
in the loss of hundreds of lives and millions of dollars.
In many localities, hairdressers
Hiers, David wrote:
Governments already license stock brokers, pilots, commercial drivers,
accountants, engineers, all sorts of people whose mistakes can be measured in
the loss of hundreds of lives and millions of dollars.
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:59:34 +1000, Jeff Young said:
Having met more than a few people in government IT, all jokes aside,
I think they're pretty well equipped to know when and if they need to
disconnect from the Internet, even without an executive order.
(speaking only for myself and no one else)...
You make a good point Chris..
Regardless of any politician or bureaucrat's motive for taking an
action, many (most?) are ill prepared to speak or even ponder the
topic of the Internet (and the fancy series of tubes.. ) [much
less make laws about
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Jason Jenisch wrote:
Hiers, David wrote:
http://sip-trunking.tmcnet.com/topics/security/articles/63218-bill-give-president-emergency-power-internet-raises-concerns.htm
I must have missed something here... I cannot find in the article or the
bill where it states or alludes
Peter Beckman wrote:
The proposal also includes a federal certification program for cyber
security professionals, and a requirement that certain computer systems
and networks in the private sector be managed by people who receive that
license, CNET said.
Presumably, this is to increase
I guess the precedence for blocking is the way cops can close
airspace, roads, and any piece of property when needed. If you accept
the notion that we've built private and public roads and buildings
on the information superhighway, the notion of emergency roadblocks,
crime-scene tape, traffic
Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
I'm not sure what you're asking. Those disconnections were
well-covered in the press. Start with
http://www.doi.gov/news/grilesmemo.htm but there's a lot more that a
quick google search will find.
A news-item or -event I missed for whatever reason, okay.
I'll
It's not a proposed license for computer users but rather a proposal to
license computer security professionals. Here is the draft bill text, so that
we are all on the same sheet of music:
TITLE I-WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
SEC. 101. CERTIFICATION AND TRAINING OF CYBERSECURITY PROFESSIONALS.
Perhaps it's intended to be a workaround to the current problem with a
lot of government IT Security: The (big) contractors are told to follow
IT security guidelines, at which point they point back to their contract
and say That's not in the statement of work, lets renegotiate the
contract
Scott Morris wrote:
So if someone hacks the electric grid, does it not make sense to unplug
that portion of the infrastructrure from the Internet until the problem
is fixed? (e.g. shut down traffic to/from) I think someone wrote an
article after WAY over-thinking this whole thing and everyone
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:06:56 EDT, Sachs, Marcus Hans (Marc) said:
(d) CERTIFICATION.-Beginning 3 years after the date of enactment of
this Act, it shall be unlawful for an individual who is not certified
under the program to represent himself or herself as a cybersecurity
professional.
Highly unlikely that 3 years is sufficient time to devise a certification,
No big deal; they could just adopt the CISSP/GIAC cert without
modification as an interim step. Existing certs are already being
used in some court cases:
Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:46:19 -0400 (EDT)
Sean Donelan s...@donelan.com wrote:
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009, Jeff Young wrote:
The more troubling parts of this bill had to do with the President,
at his discretion, classifying parts of public networks as critical
infrastructure
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Louis-Vuitton-Awarded-324-bw-3561952192.html?x=0.v=1
NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Louis Vuitton Malletier, S.A. (“Louis Vuitton”) part
of LVMH, the world’s leading luxury group, today announced that it has won the
lawsuit it filed in 2007 against the California based
na...@wbsconnect.com wrote:
Any and all nefarious activity alleged in this lawsuit was conducted by a
customer, of a customer, of a customer yet the hosting provider was found
liable, not the actual criminal manufacturing and selling the fakes.
We had all better watch our backs since it seems
that is so sad makes me very angry reading this.
-g
From: na...@wbsconnect.com [na...@wbsconnect.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 5:35 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Beware: a very bad precedent set
Wrong, wrong, wrong, Dr. Wrongy W. Wrongenstein.
If you're served with notice that you have a downstream customer /conducting
business that's illegal or tortious/ , you can't ignore it..
IANAL(yet), but ISPs don't really enjoy the same rights as public carriers
s/a telcos. And in this case, ISP
In message 4a9c45d2.1000...@brightok.net, Jack Bates writes:
na...@wbsconnect.com wrote:
Any and all nefarious activity alleged in this lawsuit was conducted by a c
ustomer, of a customer, of a customer yet the hosting provider was found liab
le, not the actual criminal manufacturing and
How does this stuff ever make it to court??? Why is it an ISP is
responsible for policing it's customers? I'm constantly getting called
up from scammers trying to offering me bogus warranty insurance for cars
I don't own...does that mean I can sue Verizon because they are letting
scammers use
On Aug 31, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Bret Clark wrote:
How does this stuff ever make it to court??? Why is it an ISP is
responsible for policing it's customers? I'm constantly getting
called up from scammers trying to offering me bogus warranty
insurance for cars I don't own...does that mean I
Bret Clark wrote:
How does this stuff ever make it to court??? Why is it an ISP is
responsible for policing it's customers? I'm constantly getting called
up from scammers trying to offering me bogus warranty insurance for cars
I don't own...does that mean I can sue Verizon because they are
I would have figured that everyone would have learned that abuse@ being a
blackhole is a bad idea from what happened to Atrivo/InterCage.
William
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On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Jack Batesjba...@brightok.net wrote:
The Akanoc Defendants’ specific business model of providing unmanaged
server capacity to web hosting resellers does not exempt them from taking
active steps to effectively prevent infringing activity upon notification
from
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:47 PM, William Herrin
herrin-na...@dirtside.comwrote:
Does anyone have a link to the decision?
https://arpa.com/news/C0703952JW.pdf?n
-jamie
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:47 PM, William
Pitcockneno...@systeminplace.net wrote:
I would have figured that everyone would have learned that abuse@ being a
blackhole is a bad idea from what happened to Atrivo/InterCage.
I don't think that's the lesson learned from that case at all
actually. The
The order arose from Cobell v. Salazar (was C. v. Kempthorne, was C. v.
Norton, was C. v. Babbitt). On October 20th, 2005, Judge Royce C.
Lamberth ordered the Interior Department to disconnect from the Internet
all computer systems that house or provide access to Individual Indian
Trust
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