I'd like to thank the people at Merit and on the various NANOG committees
for putting on what was for the most part another great NANOG meeting.
However, for those of us with sensitive resperatory systems, the bar and
lobby, where much of the important stuff at NANOG happens, were really
On Oct 26, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Steve Gibbard wrote:
[snip]
Given how rare it is to find hotel lobbies in the US or Canada, or
even in
Europe, that still allow smoking, it doesn't seem like it would be
difficult to adopt a policy of only holding NANOG meetings in non-
smoking
hotels. I'd
Wow! I had no idea there were still indoor smoking bars anywhere in
the US.
I support Steve's suggestion as an asthmatic who never notices
symptoms until smoke drifts by.
- Tim
On Oct 26, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Steve Gibbard s...@gibbard.org wrote:
I'd like to thank the people at Merit and on
On Oct 26, 2009, at 6:12 PM, kris foster wrote:
On Oct 26, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Steve Gibbard wrote:
[snip]
Given how rare it is to find hotel lobbies in the US or Canada, or
even in
Europe, that still allow smoking, it doesn't seem like it would be
difficult to adopt a policy of only
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 07:34:47PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
[snip]
I would be keen to see this restriction put in-place, but unless you
are hosting the meeting and picking the venue, it may be challenging.
Until we're swimming in competing hosting offers, it may not be feasible
to
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Steve Gibbard s...@gibbard.org wrote:
I'd like to thank the people at Merit and on the various NANOG committees
for putting on what was for the most part another great NANOG meeting.
However, for those of us with sensitive resperatory systems, the bar and
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Matthew Petach mpet...@netflight.com wrote:
There was stuff happening in the bar? I just avoided it like the
smoke-filled
plague it was. If people were doing business in the bar, it definitely
limited
the audience and scope (which could be seen as a
The U. S. Congress is on the spot already, proposing strict scrutiny
tests for filtering and forwarding decisions of all kinds.
RB
Randy Bush wrote:
should we now look forward to deep technical opinons from law clerks
--
Richard Bennett
Research Fellow
Information Technology and
[tangent of interst for the archives]
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 02:07:42PM -0500, Joe Greco wrote:
[snip]
If I'm assigned 24.1.2.3 by Comcast, and Comcast filters my ingress to
prevent me from emitting other addresses, you claim that's fine because
it's BCP38.
There's a problem: I can
Hi folks...
I'm just looking for some feedback ... we are looking for a *really*
simple Change Management ticket system. All we want is a system that
does the following:
Technician opens ticket requesting a network level or server level
change outlining the brief details, severity level and
I am a strong advocate of free speech and have a track record for both
supporting and exercising it. But the dissenters must be responsible.
Copying a site - copyright infringement - is never free speech, it is
illegal activity. I really don't even care if there is a legal
omg... it's
We use [1]http://www.troubleticketexpress.com/ to do just that. While
it leans more towards being a customer support system, we've had no
problem using it as our internal provisioning/network maintenance
system too.
Basic, simple and ties into a SQL db.
Bret
Paul Stewart
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Paul Stewart pstew...@nexicomgroup.net wrote:
Hi folks...
I'm just looking for some feedback ... we are looking for a *really*
simple Change Management ticket system. All we want is a system that
does the following:
Hi Paul,
Have you considered any of
Thanks very much..
We ran RT for a while but every time a new update came out on CentOS it broke
the installation (perl mods), making it a pain to keep running. Bugzilla we
haven't tried nor the JIRA. I'll take a look... does JIRA have an approval
process or some type?
Cheers,
Paul
Paul Stewart (pstewart) writes:
Thanks very much..
We ran RT for a while but every time a new update came out on CentOS it broke
the installation (perl mods), making it a pain to keep running.
Hi Paul,
I'm maintaining RT installs on FreeBSD, Debian, CentOS/RHEL, and so far
Thanks - we're not really looking for so much a ticketing system as more
of a change management approval system I guess. There was a hosted
package offering called Sargeant Change at one time but the website
disappeared - while I'd rather not have something hosted it was exactly
what would work
Paul Stewart pstew...@nexicomgroup.net writes:
Thanks - we're not really looking for so much a ticketing system as more
of a change management approval system I guess.
Thats why I suggested OTRS only after RT was mentioned. CheckPoint R70.1
has something like this build in but it's only for
On 27/10/2009, at 12:11 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:
We ran RT for a while but every time a new update came out on CentOS
it broke the installation (perl mods), making it a pain to keep
running. Bugzilla we haven't tried nor the JIRA. I'll take a
look... does JIRA have an approval process or
So why are we having this discussion?
Because it appears that HE took down non-infringing sites?
Excuse me for stating the obvious. :-)
... JG
--
Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI -
On the technical side of this question...
Let's say that a customer is doing
So why are we having this discussion?
Because it appears that HE took down non-infringing sites?
Excuse me for stating the obvious. :-)
... JG
--
Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI -
On the technical side of this question...
Let's say that a customer
I think that is a pretty standard procedure. We generally give our
users 12 hours to remove the content before we null-route the IP...
The only time this does not apply is with active spam sources, simple
and quite effective.
Thanks,
John van Oppen
Spectrum Networks LLC
Direct: 206.973.8302
John van Oppen wrote:
I think that is a pretty standard procedure. We generally give our
users 12 hours to remove the content before we null-route the IP...
The only time this does not apply is with active spam sources, simple
and quite effective.
And yet, that may have been exactly what
-Original Message-
From: Jack Bates [mailto:jba...@brightok.net]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:52 AM
To: John van Oppen
Cc: Joe Greco; Brian Johnson; North American Network Operators Group
Subject: Re: DMCA takedowns of networks
John van Oppen wrote:
I think that is a pretty
I always make the assumption that I'm on my own and now one will help. If they
do GREAT if not, sucks to be but I'm prepared. In a perfect world we all help
others, but if the people paying any givens person paycheck have other issues
tasked to higher priority levels then I can blame or fault
Hello all,
Looking for input on Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick. I can look up
spec and other published information but, as always, the devil is in
the detail and you just never know what wall you run into until you
actually try it so I wanted to see if anyone has used this and can
point out
Jack Bates wrote (on Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 09:52:01AM -0500):
John van Oppen wrote:
I think that is a pretty standard procedure. We generally give our
users 12 hours to remove the content before we null-route the IP...
The only time this does not apply is with active spam sources, simple
and
N. Yaakov Ziskind wrote:
Jack Bates wrote (on Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 09:52:01AM -0500):
John van Oppen wrote:
I think that is a pretty standard procedure. We generally give our
users 12 hours to remove the content before we null-route the IP...
And yet, that may have been exactly what
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Phil Regnauld regna...@nsrc.org wrote:
Paul Stewart (pstewart) writes:
Thanks very much..
We ran RT for a while but every time a new update came out on CentOS it
broke the installation (perl mods), making it a pain to keep running.
Hi Paul,
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Nathan Ward wrote:
On 27/10/2009, at 12:11 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:
We ran RT for a while but every time a new update came out on CentOS it
broke the installation (perl mods), making it a pain to keep running.
Bugzilla we haven't tried nor the JIRA. I'll take a look...
Dan Young (dyoung) writes:
If you want Fedora-ish packages built for RHEL/CentOS, getting them
from EPEL is a better choice:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/repoview/rt3.html
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/x86_64/repoview/rt3.html
Yes, EPEL is ok, but
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Jay Nakamura wrote:
Looking for input on Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick. I can look up
spec and other published information but, as always, the devil is in
the detail and you just never know what wall you run into until you
actually try it so I wanted to see if anyone
Is there a better solution that doesn't require intrusive parsing?
Sure. Tell the hoster they've got to shut it down, or else lose their
connectivity.
which would be called blackmail.
sure, have the cops arrest the guy that actually runs the site or uploaded
it onto the site, if they
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Phil Regnauld regna...@nsrc.org wrote:
Dan Young (dyoung) writes:
If you want Fedora-ish packages built for RHEL/CentOS, getting them
from EPEL is a better choice:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/repoview/rt3.html
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:11:47AM -0500, Brian Johnson wrote:
Is there any reason to believe that HE didn't do that? The report
doesn't mention if HE contacted the customer before doing this.
According to May First's own statement, this is exactly what happened:
[realizing that I am veering OT]
Last Thursday I videotaped a talk Jefferson's Moose in Cyberspace in NYC.
http://www.isoc-ny.org/?p=959 (still editing - soon come)
One point made was that the progress vs moral rights dichotomy in
copyright philosophy is so deep that there really is little, if
Hello,
I am working for a French ISP, we are working with this product in order to
provide a firewall for our VRF customers.
Quickly :
Used to :
* Firewall / NAT for IPV4 VRF
* Rate limit bandwidth sessions
* A few logging
Pro:
* stable
* ipsec pptp passthrough
Cons :
* ugly java
Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
had no liability in the matter. Of course Hurricane is well within their
rights not to serve any customer that they please, but the customer is
also well within their rights to find another provider who better
respects the rights of free speech on the Internet (if
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Jack Bates jba...@brightok.net wrote:
Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
had no liability in the matter. Of course Hurricane is well within their
rights not to serve any customer that they please, but the customer is also
well within their rights to find another
A reminder that discussion of the following topics and off-topic for the
NANOG list:
6. Postings of political, philosophical, and legal nature are prohibited.
Simon Lyall
NANOG MLC ( on behalf of)
--
Simon Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/
To stay awake all night adds
Bruce Williams wrote:
Not that HE should act as a judge, but just to clarify what is being done.
Hey. I think it's great satire. Given the nature of their content, you'd
expect them to have been better prepared for a DMCA notice. I suspect
they will be in the future.
Jack
Thanks again to everyone who attended NANOG 47 in Dearborn, or watched
remotely. Arbor Networks and Merit Network were wonderful hosts, and
the Program Committee and presenters combined to give us an excellent
program. Special thanks also go to the ARIN staff, who worked closely
with
Not to go too off-topic, but if there is a more preferred location for me to
ask, please let me know. I'm looking for recommendations on open source
packages that people are using for monitoring power utilization of their
network/server gear.
We're using Cacti currently, pulling the data from
I do the same, but with ganglia. I've noticed that different APCs
report power differently (after comparing APC output to BCMS output.)
Our newer servers also report power consumption via IPMI: /usr/bin/
ipmitool sdr type Current. We also graph that via ganglia.
-Dave
On Oct 26,
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Justin M. Streiner
strei...@cluebyfour.org wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Jay Nakamura wrote:
Looking for input on Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick. I can look up
spec and other published information but, as always, the devil is in
the detail and you just
I'd think SNMP will be what any product uses to query APC gear, even their own
suite uses SNMP to collect information and receive traps.
We use cacti to graph our loads on the APC power bars and UPS gear, gives you
everything you need on all phases/legs, was there something in particular you
But, if HE *didn't* do that, why aren't they commenting? Like, on this
forum, for example? HE ppl seem to know the address of NANOG ...
probably because they, like many of us, are deeply amused by days of
conjecturbation.
randy
Per Dictionary.com:
blackmail
-noun
1. any payment extorted by intimidation, as by threats of injurious
revelations or accusations.
2. the extortion of such payment: He confessed rather than suffer the
dishonor of blackmail.
3. a tribute formerly exacted in the north of England and in Scotland
Looking for
24U space
5Mbps bandwidth
BGP Peer
15amps
Chicago or Chicago suburbs (including Northern Indiana (Merrillville, Hammond, etc).
Budget NO MORE THAN $750/month.
If you know of colocation space that meets these parameters, please let me
know. Sorry this is my second
request, I
Check with Continuum Data Centers. I have a server racked there and have
toured the facility. Very nice and the owner Tom is a great guy. Pricing
is very good and service is reliable.
http://continuumdatacenters.com/
-Original Message-
From: John Palmer (NANOG Acct)
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Justin M. Streiner
strei...@cluebyfour.org wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Jay Nakamura wrote:
Looking for input on Alcatel-Lucent VPN Firewall Brick. I can look up
spec and other published information but, as
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Karl Auer ka...@biplane.com.au wrote:
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 20:48 -0700, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
the mac address of the rouge server
pedantic
It's R-O-G-U-E - rogue.
Rouge is French for red and English for red make-up.
Also the name of the Ford assembly plant
Same. Cacti
-b
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Greg Whynott greg.whyn...@oicr.on.cawrote:
I'd think SNMP will be what any product uses to query APC gear, even their
own suite uses SNMP to collect information and receive traps.
We use cacti to graph our loads on the APC power bars and UPS
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