Guillaume FORTAINE wrote:
Misters,
No comments ?
http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.loud-fat-bloke.co.uk/obeseus2.pdf
http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/F012Interoute121109.pdf
http://barometer.interoute.com/barom_main.php
The paper is
Dear Mister Wyble,
Thank you for your reply.
On 03/15/2010 07:00 AM, Charles N Wyble wrote:
The paper is pretty high level, and the software doesn't appear to be
available for download.
http://www.loud-fat-bloke.co.uk/obeseus.html
http://www.loud-fat-bloke.co.uk/tools/obeseusvB.tar.gz
I have yet to see a core router named Luke or Bart... ;)
-Original Message-
From: Joe Greco [mailto:jgr...@ns.sol.net]
Sent: March-14-10 11:11 PM
To: Rubens Kuhl
Cc: Paul Stewart; NANOG list
Subject: Re: Network Naming Conventions
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Paul Stewart
It was a small network.
On 3/13/10 2:58 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
On my last network I named all the routers after simpsons characters.
scaled well?
I've used a Jimmy Buffett theme in test labs before.
Matt Adcock, Manager
334-481-6629 (w) / 334-312-5393 (m) / madc...@hisna.com
700 Hyundai Blvd. / Montgomery, AL 36105
P
The average office worker uses 10,000 sheets of paper = 1.2 trees, per year
By not printing this email, you’ve saved
We use confidence inspiring names here for our devices, shakey, broken,
jitter, crusty
G
- Original Message -
From: Adcock, Matt [HISNA] madc...@hisna.com
To: Ravi Pina r...@cow.org; Randy Bush ra...@psg.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Mon Mar 15 09:10:40 2010
Nice, I've used mountains (Denali, Everest, Olympus, etc) in the past to
name systems. Used profanity for awhile to name machines, there's
really quite a bit of it, and every language has it's own set, giving a
large pool to choose from. Sadly, when outages occurred, it was
somewhat difficult to
Being in the IDS business mostly involved with Snort, I've given my sensors
pig names in the past.
Wilbur, Arnold, Lechoncito
On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Andrew D Kirch wrote:
Nice, I've used mountains (Denali, Everest, Olympus, etc) in the past to
name systems. Used profanity for
On 16/03/2010, at 2:10 AM, Adcock, Matt [HISNA] wrote:
I've used a Jimmy Buffett theme in test labs before.
Naming themes are fine in test labs, because devices have a different
function/role several times per day, a name acts like an asset tag in that it
sticks with it through its lifetime.
ours is a small network, so is ok to have fun. 8)
we do use CNAMES to provide useful information(and make managers happy).. and
name servers after the service the provide, eg ldap1.auth.mgt
here is an example:
gwhyn...@ops:~$ host rma.mgt
rma.mgt.oicr.on.ca is an alias for
On-net we use law enforcement agency names, and for those off-net we use the
names of reigning mafia families in NFL cities and South American drug cartels.
--- madc...@hisna.com wrote:
From: Adcock, Matt [HISNA] madc...@hisna.com
To: Ravi Pina r...@cow.org, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com
Cc:
I used to use dead presidents to name devices. Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson,
etc. Humorous yet patriotic.
Marc
On Mar 15, 2010, at 11:37 AM, Sachs, Marcus Hans (Marc) wrote:
I used to use dead presidents to name devices. Lincoln, Washington,
Jefferson, etc. Humorous yet patriotic.
We used to use deceased musicians.
Popular (i.e., rock) for Linux servers.
Classical musicians for everything
For Shipwright.com, it's Donald McKay's ships
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_McKay and famous clippers (shortened)
(Flying) cloud, (Neptune's) car, cet, then Jack Aubrey's commands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Aubrey (sophie, surprise...), and, finally,
the names of various sentient
Hi there,
we brainstormed alot about this topic some time ago, following some conclusions:
- anything trademarked might be a problem (so Zoidberg might be cool for a
router, but I couldn't take a router named Zapp for serious, and Farnsworth
is going mad would be considered as normal
At first blush, I would say it's an interesting idea but won't actually resolve
anything of the scariest DDOS attacks we've seen. (Unless I've missed something
obvious about your doodle).
The advantage/disadvantage of 100,000+ host drone armies is that they don't
actually *have* to flood you,
Hello.
Recently I have faced with youtube content access problem. It looks,
that our subnets got banned in some way. I would be very pleased to get
Youtube or maybe Google technical contact.
WBR
Roman A. Nozdrin
ISP Tis-Dialog LLC
Hi,
Is there any one has idea about what is clean pipe ? what exactly upstream
providers do using this term clean pipe?
whether would it add any latency in the traffic flow ?
Please if you have any link or draft , please share it.
Planning to implement it in our peering pipes ?
thanks and
Is there any one has idea about what is clean pipe ? what exactly upstream
providers do using this term clean pipe?
Call it managed DDOS protection .. sort of like the SaS model, but for
networking.
Simple ASCII artwork :
Internet - ISP (big pipe) - DDOS gear - (your circuit) - you.
In
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010, Greg Whynott wrote:
We use confidence inspiring names here for our devices, shakey, broken,
jitter, crusty
Ah, try endangered plants/animals :)
Antonio Querubin
808-545-5282 x3003
e-mail/xmpp: t...@lava.net
On Mar 16, 2010, at 1:06 AM, Michael Holstein wrote:
In short, instead of paying for a (n*)gbps circuit and buying your own DDOS
prevention gear, you buy $n worth of bandwidth that has somebody actively
managing the DDOS protection.
And of course, if one's organization is an SP, one can in
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Brandon Kim brandon@brandontek.com wrote:
Is this a new concept? I've never heard of this before. It's very
interesting. Not that I personally have
a need for it, but companies are always finding more services to provide
for youerrrmanage for
On 15 March 2010 17:36, drrtuy drr...@ya.ru wrote:
Recently I have faced with youtube content access problem. It looks, that
our subnets got banned in some way. I would be very pleased to get Youtube
or maybe Google technical contact.
You're not using 1.0.0.0/8 on your network are you?
- Beers (the main server got to be anchor, which made our ex-Navy
boss happy and seemed more professional than some others
- Mountains, mostly volcanic
- Psychoactive chemicals (the database is on speed, the development
project's on prozac...)
- Friends at Princeton used quarks (Up is down today.)
Sub-atomic particles.
Some people say there are not enough, but they just don't realize how many
there are. Plus you can expand into elements, then compounds.
--
TTFN,
patrick
-Original Message-
From: Dave Temkin
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:51 PM
To: Kevin Oberman
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: 10GBase-t switch
Can you point to another 1U box that has more than 16MB per-port
buffer?
-Dave
Anyone know what the buffer depth is on the
On 03/15/2010 04:30 PM, George Bonser wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Dave Temkin
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:51 PM
To: Kevin Oberman
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: 10GBase-t switch
Can you point to another 1U box that has more than 16MB per-port
buffer?
-Dave
Bullpucky with regards to 10G optics cost. (1G we can agree on)
You can do SPF+ 10G LRM for 220M of shiny-light goodness for 280 bucks.
LR is nearly 4 times that much.
We find that 220 gets us to most places in the building.
Jeff- As far as fiber goes we spec sumitomo or corning and try to
Dear Mister Jain,
Thank you for your reply.
You are speaking about EDoS (Economic Denial of Sustainability). Please
see the following article :
http://www.rationalsurvivability.com/blog/?s=EDos
Consider a new take on an old problem based on ecommerce: Click-fraud. I
frame this new
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Guillaume FORTAINE gforta...@live.com wrote:
Dear Mister Jain,
Thank you for your reply.
You are speaking about EDoS (Economic Denial of Sustainability). Please see
the following article :
http://www.rationalsurvivability.com/blog/?s=EDos
Consider a new
Dear Mister Morrow,
Thank you for your reply.
To quote :
The advantage/disadvantage of 100,000+ host drone armies is that they
don't actually *have* to flood you, per se. 10 pps (or less) each and
you are going to crush almost everything without raising any alarms
based on statistically
That's right M.Fortaine .. and your model does not, as yet, appear to
address what you term as EDoS and what the general security community
calls DDoS
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Guillaume FORTAINE gforta...@live.com wrote:
From my point of view, it seems similar to the EDoS concept :
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
ops.li...@gmail.com wrote:
That's right M.Fortaine .. and your model does not, as yet, appear to
address what you term as EDoS and what the general security community
calls DDoS
eh.. I guess I'm splitting hairs. the goal of 100k bots
I got your point. What I was saying is that what he calls EDoS (and
I'm sure he'll say obliterating infrastructure is the ultimate form of
an economic dos) is just what goes on ...
You may or may not be able to overload the AWS infrastructure by too
many queries but you sure as hell will blow
And a follow-up to my original question...
I'm reading the Cisco SFP GBIC-SH spec for 50u OM3 and it shows a rating of
1000m? Really? That's better than the LH rating over the same fiber (550m)?
Jeff
Misters,
Thank you for your reply.
1) First of all, I am absolutely not related to the Obeseus project.
From my point of view, the interesting things were that :
a) This project was unknown.
http://www.google.com/search?q=obeseus+ddosbtnG=Searchhl=enesrch=FT1sa=2
b) This project comes
If only there were other security experts on this list with a proven ability to
make this thread even more absurd.
On 16/03/2010, at 4:47 PM, Guillaume FORTAINE wrote:
Misters,
Thank you for your reply.
1) First of all, I am absolutely not related to the Obeseus project. From my
point
On Mar 16, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Guillaume FORTAINE wrote:
Especially, where is Roland Dobbins ?
At your service.
;
---
Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net // http://www.arbornetworks.com
Injustice is relatively easy to
Dear Mister Dobbins,
Thank you for your reply.
What do you think about Obeseus ?
I look forward to your answer,
Best Regards,
Guillaume FORTAINE
On 03/16/2010 05:16 AM, Dobbins, Roland wrote:
On Mar 16, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Guillaume FORTAINE wrote:
Especially, where is Roland
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