IPv4 squatters on the move again?

2010-09-07 Thread Tero Toikkanen
Anyone hear of the SundownGroup? On Thursday we received an interesting RFQ from them and suspect their intentions for requesting an IP assignment isn't exactly what they state. We have already turned them down, but thought others might be interested in their activities as well. RIPE NCC has

Re: IPv4 squatters on the move again?

2010-09-07 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
We see this all the time, usually it involves either a /20 or multiple-/xx that change every month. Jeff On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Tero Toikkanen tero.toikka...@nebula.fiwrote: Anyone hear of the SundownGroup? On Thursday we received an interesting RFQ from them and suspect their

Re: IPv4 squatters on the move again?

2010-09-07 Thread khatfield
Kind of funny how they intend to do enough 'WholesaleVoIP on a 10Mbps connection/1GB RAM for a /20 :) That is a giveaway in itself. -Original Message- From: Tero Toikkanen tero.toikka...@nebula.fi Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 08:24:05 To: NANOG listnanog@nanog.org Subject: IPv4 squatters on

RE: IPv4 squatters on the move again?

2010-09-07 Thread Tero Toikkanen
Yeah, it's pretty obvious from the start. I'd like to see the VoIP-system with those requirements... I just think these cases should be made public to at least slow these guys down, just in case someone else is less cluefull :) If these really happen all the time in the big world, this list

RE: just seen my first IPv6 network abuse scan, is this the startfor more?

2010-09-07 Thread Jamie Bowden
Forgive the top posting, but Lookout is the corporate standard. Now, on to the topic at hand. Why would you scan the address space in the first place? Wouldn't it be easier to compromise a known host and look at the ARP table? Or better yet, the router on the edge? If it's moving packets,

OAM and QinQ

2010-09-07 Thread Serge Vautour
Hello, We're working on deploying some L2 services over an MPLS network. Our model includes a CPE with OAM capabilities and QinQ from the PE to the CPE. For now we want to do simple OAM functions from CPE-CPE (no MIPs in the MPLS network). Our lab testing has shown some sort of

Re: IPv4 squatters on the move again?

2010-09-07 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Tero Toikkanen wrote: Anyone hear of the SundownGroup? On Thursday we received an interesting RFQ from them and suspect their intentions for requesting an IP assignment isn't exactly what they state. We have already turned them down, but thought others might be interested

Re: ISP port blocking practice

2010-09-07 Thread Randy Bush
i keep hearing that, but am having a hard time finding supporting data. Might see the stats from http://cbl.abuseat.org - by AS. Then compare the stats on a non port 25 filtered network (they have stats by AS) to stats on a network that is filtered on port 25 The networks that are

Re: IPv4 squatters on the move again?

2010-09-07 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: We see this all the time, usually it involves either a /20 or multiple-/xx that change every month. If they want frequently changing IPs, it's almost certainly for spamming. I got the impression with these people they were just trying to get a bunch

Re: IPv4 squatters on the move again?

2010-09-07 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote: On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: We see this all the time, usually it involves either a /20 or multiple-/xx that change every month. If they want frequently changing IPs, it's almost certainly for spamming. I got the

Re: just seen my first IPv6 network abuse scan,

2010-09-07 Thread Joe Greco
Forgive the top posting, but Lookout is the corporate standard. It prevents you from typing at the bottom? How quaint :-) Now, on to the topic at hand. Why would you scan the address space in the first place? Maybe because you haven't really thought about the magnitude of the task? Maybe

Re: IPv4 squatters on the move again?

2010-09-07 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Christopher Morrow wrote: it used to be (~4-5 years ago) that the spammer code of 'voip service provider' was really 'we intend on raping proxies all over the planet' ... when you call them out on the random port traffic out of their pipe they point at their 'business' model

Re: IPv4 squatters on the move again?

2010-09-07 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Yeah. This is just the way snowshoe spammers operate - GRE or VPN tunnels back to a master server, and a /24 full of output points with throwaway hostnames / reverse dns On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote: I haven't seen that excuse/justification from customers.  

Re: OAM and QinQ

2010-09-07 Thread Frédéric Gabut-Deloraine
Hello, We're working on deploying some L2 services over an MPLS network. Our model includes a CPE with OAM capabilities and QinQ from the PE to the CPE. For now we want to do simple OAM functions from CPE-CPE (no MIPs in the MPLS network). Our lab testing has shown some sort of

Looking Glass

2010-09-07 Thread Peter Rudasingwa
I have a linux (ubuntu) box and I would like to install a BGP looking glass. Are there any out there for free and how can one go about it? Is linux the best OS to use? Thanks, Peter R.

Re: Looking Glass

2010-09-07 Thread James Bensley
Hmm, Google says you could use http://www.zebra.org/ to set your box up as a route, and then you can just view the routes from there? Or look here; http://www.bgp4.as/tools -- Regards, James. http://www.jamesbensley.co.cc/ There are 10 kinds of people in the world; Those who understand

Re: Looking Glass

2010-09-07 Thread Randy Bush
I have a linux (ubuntu) box and I would like to install a BGP looking glass. Are there any out there for free and how can one go about it? Is linux the best OS to use? i gave up. all but one required telnet access to the router(s). and the one that did ssh did so by including half of the

Re: Looking Glass

2010-09-07 Thread Ryan Shea
The rancid package includes a perl based looking glass CGI thing. You may want to look at that and modify it to suit your needs. -Ryan On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:29 AM, James Bensley jwbens...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, Google says you could use http://www.zebra.org/ to set your box up as a route,

Re: Looking Glass

2010-09-07 Thread David Hill
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 05:09:21PM +0300, Peter Rudasingwa wrote: :I have a linux (ubuntu) box and I would like to install a BGP looking :glass. Are there any out there for free and how can one go about it? :Is linux the best OS to use? : :Thanks, :Peter R. Try OpenBSD w/ OpenBGPd. It includes a

Re: Looking Glass

2010-09-07 Thread Jason Chambers
On 9/7/10 7:09 AM, Peter Rudasingwa wrote: I have a linux (ubuntu) box and I would like to install a BGP looking glass. Are there any out there for free and how can one go about it? Is linux the best OS to use? Setup quagga [1] and write a perl script [2] to peer with the box. The perl

Re: IPv4 squatters on the move again?

2010-09-07 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote: On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Christopher Morrow wrote: I used to have some quick/dirty instructions for how to verify that the traffic was in fact proxy traffic, something like: 1) log traffic from the soon-to-be-ex-customer (acl logs

whois at rest

2010-09-07 Thread Jon Lewis
More often than not today the only replies I've been getting back from the ARIN whois servers is: ERROR 503: Unable to service request due to high volume. Is there really high volume today, or is the new restful thing broken again?

Re: IPv4 squatters on the move again?

2010-09-07 Thread todd glassey
On 9/7/2010 1:24 AM, Tero Toikkanen wrote: Anyone hear of the SundownGroup? yes it is the fictional name - it pertains to a covert operations group from a Tommy Lee Scott Gene Hackman movie called The Package. As I recall Operation Sundown was the op name and it was a bunch of assassins but

Re: whois at rest

2010-09-07 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/7/10 10:23 AM, Jon Lewis wrote: More often than not today the only replies I've been getting back from the ARIN whois servers is: ERROR 503: Unable to service request due to high volume. Is there really high volume today, or is the new restful thing broken again? S, it's an

Re: just seen my first IPv6 network abuse scan, is this the startfor more?

2010-09-07 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:03:12 EDT, Jamie Bowden said: Now, on to the topic at hand. Why would you scan the address space in the first place? Wouldn't it be easier to compromise a known host and look at the ARP table? Or better yet, the router on the edge? If it's moving packets, something

Re: Looking Glass

2010-09-07 Thread Jens Link
James Bensley jwbens...@gmail.com writes: Hmm, Google says you could use http://www.zebra.org/ to set your box up as a route, and then you can just view the routes from there? Aehm, Zebra is dead. Quagga it the successor. Last change date on zebra.org website is 5 years old. Jens --

yahoo crawlers hammering us

2010-09-07 Thread Ken Chase
So i guess im new at internets as my colleagues told me because I havent gone around to 30-40 systems I control (minus customer self-managed gear) and installed a restrictive robots.txt everywhere to make the web less useful to everyone. Does that really mean that a big outfit like yahoo should

Re: Looking Glass

2010-09-07 Thread Jack Carrozzo
FWIW Quagga works fine as a looking glass if you don't mind the telnet interface. Though, if you really want ssh, you could make a user on the machine whose login script runs 'vtysh' and logs out on exit, however it's admittedly less elegant. -Jack Carrozzo On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Jens

Re: yahoo crawlers hammering us

2010-09-07 Thread Leslie
That speed doesn't seem too bad to me - robots.txt is our friend when one had bandwidth limitations. Leslie On 9/7/10 1:19 PM, Ken Chase wrote: So i guess im new at internets as my colleagues told me because I havent gone around to 30-40 systems I control (minus customer self-managed gear)

Re: Looking Glass

2010-09-07 Thread Nathan Stratton
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Jack Carrozzo wrote: FWIW Quagga works fine as a looking glass if you don't mind the telnet interface. Though, if you really want ssh, you could make a user on the machine whose login script runs 'vtysh' and logs out on exit, however it's admittedly less elegant. Anyone

Re: Looking Glass

2010-09-07 Thread Jack Carrozzo
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Nathan Stratton nat...@robotics.net wrote: Anyone know of a good http looking glass that works with quagga? I realize this is probably more hacking than you want to do, but Quagga can expose much of it's info via SNMP. Thus it would be fairly trivial to write

Inline Traffic Management / Tracking - Usage Based Billing

2010-09-07 Thread Paul Stewart
Hi there... We are examining several options currently for appliances/devices that sit inline (most likely) and can perform all/some of these services: -Track customer usage and generate monthly reports based on username (PPPOE) or cable MAC (DHCP) - and doesn't require any changes to our

Re: Looking Glass

2010-09-07 Thread Ryan Shea
*Install quagga and rancid sudo apt-get install rancid rancid-cgi quagga *Enable bgpd in /etc/quagga/daemons *Hook up your Quagga.conf with all the fun bgp configuration bits. Search on the intarwebs or man pages for configuration details. *Set up a user with vtysh as their shell. *Set up

Re: Looking Glass

2010-09-07 Thread Craig Van Tassle
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:09:21 +0300 Peter Rudasingwa peter.rudasin...@altechstream.rw wrote: I have a linux (ubuntu) box and I would like to install a BGP looking glass. Are there any out there for free and how can one go about it? Is linux the best OS to use? Thanks, Peter R. I have used

Re: ISP port blocking practice

2010-09-07 Thread Robert Bonomi
From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Tue Sep 7 15:15:13 2010 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:55:06 -0500 From: Brett Frankenberger rbf+na...@panix.com To: deles...@gmail.com Subject: Re: ISP port blocking practice Cc: NANOG list nanog@nanog.org On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at

Re: yahoo crawlers hammering us

2010-09-07 Thread Harry Strongburg
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 04:19:58PM -0400, Ken Chase wrote: This makes it look like Yahoo is actually trafficking in pirated software, but that's kinda too funny to expect to be true, unless some yahoo tech decided to use that IP/server @yahoo for his nefarious activity, but there are better

Re: Looking Glass

2010-09-07 Thread Artyom Viklenko
08.09.2010 01:35, Nathan Stratton пишет: On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Jack Carrozzo wrote: FWIW Quagga works fine as a looking glass if you don't mind the telnet interface. Though, if you really want ssh, you could make a user on the machine whose login script runs 'vtysh' and logs out on exit,