Re: yahoo crawlers hammering us

2010-09-08 Thread Matthew Petach
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Ken Chase k...@sizone.org wrote: So i guess im new at internets as my colleagues told me because I havent gone around to 30-40 systems I control (minus customer self-managed gear) and installed a restrictive robots.txt everywhere to make the web less useful to

Re: yahoo crawlers hammering us

2010-09-08 Thread Bruce Williams
I *am* curious--what makes it any worse for a search engine like Google to fetch the file than any other random user on the Internet Possibly because that other user is who the customer pays have their content delivered to? Bruce Williams

RE: yahoo crawlers hammering us

2010-09-08 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
Possibly because that other user is who the customer pays have their content delivered to? Customers don't want to deliver their content to search engines? That seems silly. http://www.last.fm/robots.txt (Note the final 3 disallow lines...)

Re: yahoo crawlers hammering us

2010-09-08 Thread Bruce Williams
Customers don't want to deliver their content to search engines?  That seems silly. Got me there! :-) Bruce Williams

Fwd: [swinog] IP address are now personal data

2010-09-08 Thread Thomas Mangin
FYI Begin forwarded message: From: Pascal Gloor pascal.gl...@spale.com Date: 8 September 2010 11:25:18 GMT+01:00 To: swi...@swinog.ch swi...@swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] IP address are now personal data Dear community, something important for us happened today that may have some impact

Re: [swinog] IP address are now personal data

2010-09-08 Thread Jared Mauch
This is something that has been expected out of the EU as it relates to PII for a few years now. - jared On Sep 8, 2010, at 7:15 AM, Thomas Mangin wrote: FYI Begin forwarded message: From: Pascal Gloor pascal.gl...@spale.com Date: 8 September 2010 11:25:18 GMT+01:00 To:

Re: [swinog] IP address are now personal data

2010-09-08 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2010-09-08 14:56, Jared Mauch wrote: This is something that has been expected out of the EU as it relates to PII for a few years now. Fortunately Switzerland is NOT part of the European Union, even though it seems there are a lot of influences and political pulls Court verdict (german):

Re: [swinog] IP address are now personal data

2010-09-08 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Jeroen Massar wrote: On 2010-09-08 14:56, Jared Mauch wrote: This is something that has been expected out of the EU as it relates to PII for a few years now. Fortunately Switzerland is NOT part of the European Union, even though it seems there are a lot of

CFP: COMSNETS 2011 (Deadline in five days!)

2010-09-08 Thread Ramana Kompella
*** APOLOGIES IF YOUR RECEIVED MULTIPLE COPIES OF THE CFP *** COMSNETS 2011 The THIRD International Conference on COMunication Systems and NETworks January 4-8, 2011, Bangalore, India http://www.comsnets.org (In Co-operation with

Re: yahoo crawlers hammering us

2010-09-08 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 02:21:31 PDT, Bruce Williams said: I *am* curious--what makes it any worse for a search engine like Google to fetch the file than any other random user on the Internet Possibly because that other user is who the customer pays have their content delivered to? Seems to

RE: NANOG Digest, Vol 32, Issue 25

2010-09-08 Thread Martin Hotze
-Original Message- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:24:38 + From: Nathan Eisenberg nat...@atlasnetworks.us Subject: RE: yahoo crawlers hammering us To: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Message-ID: 8c26a4fdae599041a13eb499117d3c28164ac...@ex-mb- 1.corp.atlasnetworks.us

Re: NOC Automation / Best Practices

2010-09-08 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Sep 8, 2010, at 10:54 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: I would appreciate any feedback folks can give me. https://files.me.com/roland.dobbins/y4ykq0 https://files.me.com/roland.dobbins/k54qkv https://files.me.com/roland.dobbins/prguob https://files.me.com/roland.dobbins/k4zw3x

Re: yahoo crawlers hammering us

2010-09-08 Thread Ken Chase
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 12:04:07AM -0700, Matthew Petach said: I *am* curious--what makes it any worse for a search engine like Google to fetch the file than any other random user on the Internet? In either case, the machine doing the fetch isn't going to rate-limit the fetch, so you're

Re: yahoo crawlers hammering us

2010-09-08 Thread Matthew Petach
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Ken Chase k...@sizone.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 12:04:07AM -0700, Matthew Petach said:  I *am* curious--what makes it any worse for a search engine like Google  to fetch the file than any other random user on the Internet?  In either case,  the

RE: NOC Automation / Best Practices

2010-09-08 Thread Martin Hotze
-Original Message- Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:54:20 -0700 From: Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com Subject: NOC Automation / Best Practices To: nanog@nanog.org NOGGERS, (...) The way I see it, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Along those lines, I'm

Re: NOC Automation / Best Practices

2010-09-08 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Martin Hotze wrote: -Original Message- Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:54:20 -0700 From: Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com Subject: NOC Automation / Best Practices To: nanog@nanog.org NOGGERS, (...) The way I see it, an ounce of prevention is

Re: NOC Automation / Best Practices

2010-09-08 Thread khatfield
We run a *free* WISP and block 25 but I'm not sure why you would want to force all traffic through it. That's a touchy argument but it would really bother me as a paying subscriber. We use customized squid to haproxy (custom) to route traffic. Our main business is ddos protection and we use

RE: NOC Automation / Best Practices

2010-09-08 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
For either A, B or C you won't get my business, let alone a combination of all 3. *wah!* There is too much FORCE here. :-) Agreed. Just provide tubes and shut down infected customers until they clean up. Keep it simple. For content delivery, there are several non-evil ways of doing

Re: ISP port blocking practice

2010-09-08 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Owen DeLong o...@delong.com writes: I know people at large ISPs with actual data. Port 25 blocking is quite effective. Does the data show that blocking was effective, as in the host didn't detect the block and proceed around it, or, merely that lots of hosts try the direct approach first?

Re: NOC Automation / Best Practices

2010-09-08 Thread Owen DeLong
On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Martin Hotze wrote: -Original Message- Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:54:20 -0700 From: Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com Subject: NOC Automation / Best Practices To: nanog@nanog.org NOGGERS, (...) The way I see it, an ounce of prevention is

RE: NANOG Digest, Vol 32, Issue 25

2010-09-08 Thread Scott Weeks
--- m.ho...@hotze.com wrote: From: Martin Hotze m.ho...@hotze.com I have a private website; I don't want the site to be listed or content found via a search engine. I want to be able to give the URL out to friends etc. but I don't want all of the world hotlink or whatever[...]

Speakeasy Contact

2010-09-08 Thread Paul Norton
Someone from Speakeasy please contact me off-list. This is for business T-1 service. I've been seeing major packet loss on one of your peering nodes for a week now and am experiencing degraded service due to this. Support has been unable to resolve and has been unresponsive for the past 24

Re: Speakeasy Contact

2010-09-08 Thread Andrew Kirch
On 9/8/2010 7:18 PM, Paul Norton wrote: Someone from Speakeasy please contact me off-list. This is for business T-1 service. I've been seeing major packet loss on one of your peering nodes for a week now and am experiencing degraded service due to this. Support has been unable to resolve

Cogent issues

2010-09-08 Thread Charles Mills
Anyone notice any issues with Cogent? Internet Health Report showing some high latency to Verizon and a couple of other carriers.

Copyright Enforcement DoS/DDoS Attacks

2010-09-08 Thread Brandon Galbraith
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/film-industry-hires-cyber-hitmen-to-take-down-internet-pirates-20100907-14ypv.html http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/film-industry-hires-cyber-hitmen-to-take-down-internet-pirates-20100907-14ypv.htmlHas anyone dealt with this in the

Re: Copyright Enforcement DoS/DDoS Attacks

2010-09-08 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
If that's the india story .. seems to be a press release fed by the vendor - which from their website also offers medical transcription and SEO On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Brandon Galbraith brandon.galbra...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Copyright Enforcement DoS/DDoS Attacks

2010-09-08 Thread Michael Painter
Brandon Galbraith wrote: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/film-industry-hires-cyber-hitmen-to-take-down-internet-pirates-20100907-14ypv.html http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/film-industry-hires-cyber-hitmen-to-take-down-internet-pirates-20100907-14ypv.htmlHas

Re: Copyright Enforcement DoS/DDoS Attacks

2010-09-08 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
I look forward to receiving those attacks. Jeff On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Michael Painter tvhaw...@shaka.com wrote: Brandon Galbraith wrote: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/film-industry-hires-cyber-hitmen-to-take-down-internet-pirates-20100907-14ypv.html