Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-18 Thread Michael Painter
Michael Sokolov wrote: Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: There really isn't a lot of choice, 2 providers, and some minor choice in how much speed you want to pay for with each one. Does that mean no CLECs like Covad or DSL.net who colocate in the ATT CO, rent unbundled dry copper pairs

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-18 Thread JC Dill
Jack Bates wrote: And yet, I'm pretty sure there are providers that have different pipes for business than they do for consumer, and probably riding some of the same physical medium. This creates saturated and unsaturated pipes, which is just as bad or worse than using QOS. The reason I'm

Re: Troubleshooting TCP performance tutorial

2010-09-18 Thread Brandon Galbraith
On Saturday, September 18, 2010, Kevin Oberman ober...@es.net wrote: You might look at http://fasterdata.es.net. A lot of it is aimed at very large volume data transfers, but quite a bit is relevant to all TCP issues. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)

TCP Performance (NANOG Digest, Vol 32, Issue 60)

2010-09-18 Thread DMFH
Sat, 18 Sep 2010 09:34:55 + nanog-requ...@nanog.org fuream loqour : From: Abel Alejandro aalejan...@worldnetpr.com Subject: Troubleshooting TCP performance tutorial This past week I have been trying to find the root cause of tcp performance problems of a few clients that are using a third

Specifications for Internet services on public frequency

2010-09-18 Thread Georges-Keny PAUL
Hello all, My team is working on technical and technological specifications of a document for the deployment of Internet service on public frequencies in rural areas. We welcome your thoughts on the topic in terms of previous experiences and, well sure, you recommendation in terms of equipment.

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid,

2010-09-18 Thread Tony Varriale
- Original Message - From: Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net To: Chris Boyd cb...@gizmopartners.com Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, On one hand, we all recognize oversubscription as an issue.

Re: Specifications for Internet services on public frequency

2010-09-18 Thread Georges-Keny PAUL
Eric, Thanks for your reply. We're located in Haiti (Caribbean), we use basically the same template than rural S. America and Africa. I'm waiting for you. Regards, Georges-Keny PAUL 2010/9/18 Eric Brunner-Williams brun...@nic-naa.net Georges-Keny, Well, I wrote a WiMAX based BTOP application

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid,

2010-09-18 Thread Joe Greco
On one hand, we all recognize oversubscription as an issue. The high-level of oversub isn't the issue, it's part of the business model. Of course the high level of oversub is an issue, because service providers are not willing to commit to providing some particular level of service. The

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid,

2010-09-18 Thread Tony Varriale
Of course the high level of oversub is an issue We'll disagree then. Oversub makes access affordable. ..with the scary boogeyman of evil illegal P2P filesharing That just tips the money in the wrong direction. And it's a real threat (amongst others)...not just that deadly clown

Re: Specifications for Internet services on public frequency

2010-09-18 Thread Charles n wyble
Check out the openbts and tier wireless projects. Georges-Keny PAUL paulgk...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, My team is working on technical and technological specifications of a document for the deployment of Internet service on public frequencies in rural areas. We welcome your thoughts on the

Re: Troubleshooting TCP performance tutorial

2010-09-18 Thread Michael Painter
Abel Alejandro wrote: Greetings, This past week I have been trying to find the root cause of tcp performance problems of a few clients that are using a third party metro Ethernet for transport. RFC2544 tests (Layer 2) and iperf using UDP give good symmetric performance almost 100% the speed of

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid,

2010-09-18 Thread Michael Painter
I 'bookmarked' these folks: http://www.plus.net/?home=hometop on June 18, 2008 because they were one of the few who openly admitted to using DPI to enforce QOS. Two + years later, they're still around and apparently successful. Just glancing through the site, I could no longer find any mention