Re: Specifications for Internet services on public frequency

2010-09-19 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
Another +1 UBNT. We're using the NanoStation2 to deliver 802.11g to remote camps in Afghanistan. They advertise a 60 deg LOS signal but it seems to do much better. Supposedly they will reach 15 km but we've never tried to use them that far. What's really neat is they come ready to mount with some h

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-19 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Sep 17, 2010, at 5:20 46PM, Bill Stewart wrote: > Sorry, fat-fingered something when I was trying to edit. > > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Bill Stewart wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Steven Bellovin >> wrote: >>> No, they bought AT&T, which [...] But yes, SBC is the contr

Re: Specifications for Internet services on public frequency

2010-09-19 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sep 19, 2010, at 2:59 PM, John Gammons wrote: > Ubiquiti Networks - www.ubnt.com > > I have deployed numerous rural wireless provider nets with a variety > of technologies and vendors and this is by far, the most cost > effective and reliable last mile solution. > > IMHO, based on testing an

RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-19 Thread George Bonser
> IMHO it's stupid for an ISP to intentionally design for and allow > bottlenecks to exist within their network. The bottleneck to the end > user is currently unavoidable, and users with bandwidth intensive uses > might prefer some prioritization (to their own specifications) on that > part of the

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Re: Specifications for Internet services on public frequency

2010-09-19 Thread John Gammons
Ubiquiti Networks - www.ubnt.com I have deployed numerous rural wireless provider nets with a variety of technologies and vendors and this is by far, the most cost effective and reliable last mile solution. IMHO, based on testing and real life lessons learned, unlicensed is the only way to go in

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-19 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
I'm sure it's a lot better than our Afghanistan satellite systems (84% uptime on two of them, 41% on the third). Luckily we load balance the WAN ports so it's not *too* painful. Jeff On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> http://n1.netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/summary/id=43ca253f-67

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-19 Thread Randy Bush
$whatever folk. qos is about whose packets to drop. who here is paid to drop packets? if this was $customer-list, i could understand wanting to drop some packets on the link you were too cheap to provision reasonably (which is pretty st00pid in today's pricing environment). but this is a net o

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-19 Thread JC Dill
Bill Stewart wrote: A very common design is that businesses can get diffserv (or the MPLS equivalents) on end-to-end services provided by ISP X, but the peering arrangements with ISP Y don't pass diffserv bits, or pass it but ignore it, or use different sets of bits. It's very frustrating to me

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-19 Thread Randy Bush
> http://n1.netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/summary/id=43ca253f-6714-b0f7e7b0-d08e-4729-b491#BufferResult wow! lime's buffering and 587 hacking make me like caribbean cable more and more. randy

Randy in Nevis

2010-09-19 Thread Rudolph Daniel
Dont know if this may assist, but here is another from St Vincent...lime network. Sunday 19th sep. 2010 http://n1.netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/summary/id=43ca253f-6714-b0f7e7b0-d08e-4729-b491#BufferResult RD

Re: Nevis Internet

2010-09-19 Thread Randy Bush
> Very interesting Randy, this sounds like what we endure on a regular > basis in the eastern CaribbeanI too would like to know why myself > since I have always wondered whether our local networks are set up. well, here is the netalyzer report from caribbean cable on north nevis at a good time

Re: Nevis Internet

2010-09-19 Thread Rudolph Daniel
Very interesting Randy, this sounds like what we endure on a regular basis in the eastern CaribbeanI too would like to know why myself since I have always wondered whether our local networks are set up. Rudi Daniel > From: Randy Bush > Subject: very strange internet behavior > To: customers

caribbean cable ip contact

2010-09-19 Thread Randy Bush
if a clued engineer at caribbean cable happens to read this message, i would be thankful if they contacted me privately. thank you. randy -- From: Randy Bush Subject: very strange internet behavior To: customersupp...@caribcable.com Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 04:14:08 -0400 [ this needs to be esc

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-19 Thread Bill Stewart
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 2:34 AM, JC Dill wrote: > Jack Bates wrote: >> And yet, I'm pretty sure there are providers that have different pipes for >> business than they do for consumer, and probably riding some of the same >> physical medium. This creates saturated and unsaturated pipes, which is j