apologies for a recent reply

2010-10-16 Thread Andrew Kirch
Apparently I have replied to someone who has been banned from NANOG unknowingly. My humble apologies to all, this person has been killfiled. Andrew

Re: 12 years ago today...

2010-10-16 Thread Ali S
He should have been better known for his work. The intertubes will miss you Sent via mobile. On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Jorge Amodio jmamo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Rodney Joffe rjo...@centergate.com wrote: On October 16th, we lost a real friend and hero. Sigh

Re: 12 years ago today...

2010-10-16 Thread Warren Bailey
I bet it was terribly hard for Vint to write that. Was really nice to read though, and to know that he had a good enough friend to express his deep sorrow so publicly. While we are on the subject of the godfathers of the Internet, when is a documentary coming out that tells the story? There

Re: Internet in DPRK / North Korea

2010-10-16 Thread Warren Bailey
All of the DPRK elite use satellite connections which terminate in Iran. Wonder if they'll be pissed off when their search for imperialist America is blocked and they can't seem to figure out tor? Sent from a mobile phone with a small keyboard, please excuse my mistakes. On Oct 10, 2010, at

Enterprise DNS providers

2010-10-16 Thread Ken Gilmour
Hello any weekend workers :) We are looking at urgently deploying an outsourced DNS provider for a critical domain which is currently unavailable but are having some difficulty. I've tried contacting UltraDNS who only allow customers from US / Canada to sign up (we are in Malta) and their Sales

Re: Enterprise DNS providers

2010-10-16 Thread Ken Gilmour
Thanks everyone for the fast and offline responses! Black Lotus contacted me directly (almost instantly) and helped me set up an account straight away so I will give them a try. On 16 October 2010 12:03, Ken Gilmour ken.gilm...@gmail.com wrote: Hello any weekend workers :) We are looking at

Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

2010-10-16 Thread Randy Bush
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-6man-prefixlen-p2p-00.txt

isoc moves to hollywood

2010-10-16 Thread Randy Bush
isoc has made some movies trying to explain to normal humans what the fate of internet access might become. http://www.isoc.org/tools/blogs/scenarios/ imiho, message quality varies. but in general i like what they are trying to do. randy

Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

2010-10-16 Thread Mark Smith
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:31:22 +0100 Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-6man-prefixlen-p2p-00.txt Drafts are drafts, and nothing more, aren't they?

Re: 12 years ago today...

2010-10-16 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 10/15/2010 10:51 PM, Rodney Joffe wrote: On October 16th, we lost a real friend and hero. Sigh http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2468.html Quite a few of us felt compelled to remark on his life and effect on us. They've been nicely collected at postel.org:

Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption

2010-10-16 Thread Brandon Kim
Since we are on the topic of IPv6. I'd like to know if anyone has books/articles they recommend on fully understanding IPv6 adoption in the work place. I will need to contact ARIN shortly to request a v6 block. I'm assuming I would be asking for a /64 being an ISP. But I'd like to read up as

Re: 12 years ago today...

2010-10-16 Thread gordon b slater
On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 01:43 -0700, Ali S wrote: He should have been better known for his work. The intertubes will miss you One day I hope he'll be featured in school history lessons. An amazing legacy - something approaching 1/3rd of the planet's population uses it every time they use the

Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption

2010-10-16 Thread Owen DeLong
On Oct 16, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Brandon Kim wrote: Since we are on the topic of IPv6. I'd like to know if anyone has books/articles they recommend on fully understanding IPv6 adoption in the work place. I will need to contact ARIN shortly to request a v6 block. I'm assuming I would be

Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption

2010-10-16 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Joel's widget number 2 On Oct 16, 2010, at 8:36, Brandon Kim brandon@brandontek.com wrote: Since we are on the topic of IPv6. I'd like to know if anyone has books/articles they recommend on fully understanding IPv6 adoption in the work place. I will need to contact ARIN shortly to

Re: 12 years ago today...

2010-10-16 Thread Rodney Joffe
I'm not sure about a documentary, but a group of us are working on identifying all the different independent archives that have records from the early years with the idea of creating a Smithsonian/national archive collection at some point. We'll probably issue an rfc early next year. On

Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption

2010-10-16 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Oct 16, 2010, at 10:56 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: Then move on to the Internet which as with most things is where the most cuurent if not helpful information resides. Eric Vyncke's IPv6 security book is definitely worthwhile, as well, in combination with Schudel Smith's infrastructure

RE: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption

2010-10-16 Thread Brandon Kim
Thanks everyone who responded. This list is such a valuable wealth of information. Apparently I was wrong about the /64 as that should be /32 so thanks for that correction Thanks again especially on a Saturday weekend! From: rdobb...@arbor.net To: nanog@nanog.org Date: Sat, 16 Oct

RE: T-Mobile USA - Peering Policy

2010-10-16 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I wanted to thank everyone for their helpful on-list and off-list reply's. Cheers Ryan -Original Message- From: Cameron Byrne [mailto:cb.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:44 AM To: Ryan Finnesey Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: T-Mobile USA - Peering Policy On

Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

2010-10-16 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 00:40:41 +1030 From: Mark Smith na...@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:31:22 +0100 Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-6man-prefixlen-p2p-00.txt Drafts are drafts, and

Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6 (IPv6 STANDARDS)

2010-10-16 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Kevin Oberman ober...@es.net wrote: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 00:40:41 +1030 From: Mark Smith na...@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:31:22 +0100 Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:

Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

2010-10-16 Thread Mark Smith
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:26:54 -0700 Kevin Oberman ober...@es.net wrote: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 00:40:41 +1030 From: Mark Smith na...@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:31:22 +0100 Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:

Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption

2010-10-16 Thread Franck Martin
You give a /64 to the end users (home/soho), and /48 to multi homed organization (or bigger orgs that use more than one network internally) and get a /32 if you are an ISP. See also the discussion about what to use in p2p links. - Original Message - From: Brandon Kim

Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6 (IPv6 STANDARDS)

2010-10-16 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Mark Smith na...@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org wrote: On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 19:52:31 -0400 Bill Bogstad bogs...@pobox.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Kevin Oberman ober...@es.net wrote: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 00:40:41 +1030

Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

2010-10-16 Thread Randy Bush
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-6man-prefixlen-p2p-00.txt Drafts are drafts, and nothing more, aren't they? must be some blowhard i have plonked Drafts are drafts. Even most RFCs are RFCs and nothing more. Only a handful have ever been designated as Standards. I hope this

Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

2010-10-16 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 01:56:28 +0100 From: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-6man-prefixlen-p2p-00.txt Drafts are drafts, and nothing more, aren't they? must be some blowhard i have plonked Drafts are drafts. Even most RFCs are RFCs and nothing

Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

2010-10-16 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 10:24:41 +1030 From: Mark Smith na...@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:26:54 -0700 Kevin Oberman ober...@es.net wrote: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 00:40:41 +1030 From: Mark Smith

Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

2010-10-16 Thread Mark Smith
Hi Kevin, On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:13:22 -0700 Kevin Oberman ober...@es.net wrote: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 10:24:41 +1030 From: Mark Smith na...@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:26:54 -0700 Kevin Oberman ober...@es.net wrote: Date:

network name 101100010100110.net

2010-10-16 Thread Day Domes
I have been tasked with coming up with a new name for are transit data network.  I am thinking of using 101100010100110.net does anyone see any issues with this?

Re: network name 101100010100110.net

2010-10-16 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Saturday night, Day Domes daydo...@gmail.com postulated: I am thinking of using 101100010100110.net does anyone see any issues with this? It's truly unsigned? (15 bit) -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474

Re: network name 101100010100110.net

2010-10-16 Thread Day Domes
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Joe Hamelin j...@nethead.com wrote: On Saturday night, Day Domes daydo...@gmail.com postulated: I am thinking of using 101100010100110.net does anyone see any issues with this? It's truly unsigned? (15 bit) -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA,

Re: network name 101100010100110.net

2010-10-16 Thread Joe Hamelin
16 bit integers. Ok, a lame joke. 22694.NET and 58A6.NET are available. What are you trying to name? -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474 On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Day Domes daydo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Joe Hamelin j...@nethead.com wrote:

Re: network name 101100010100110.net

2010-10-16 Thread Day Domes
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Joe Hamelin j...@nethead.com wrote: 16 bit integers.  Ok, a lame joke. 22694.NET and 58A6.NET are available.  What are you trying to name? -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474 On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Day Domes daydo...@gmail.com