Clarification from Pica8 (was Fwd: Mystery open source switching company claims top-of-rack price edge)

2010-11-01 Thread Christopher LILJENSTOLPE
I just talked to Lin Du (who I worked with when I was at Woven), who is the current CEO of Pica8. Don't know anything about the product, but this didn't seem like Lin's style. Turns out Fontaine GUILLAUME has registered pic8@gmail.com, has no relation to the company - and is trying to

Re: Clarification from Pica8 (was Fwd: Mystery open source switching company claims top-of-rack price edge)

2010-11-01 Thread Mark
Oh good lord, when will that guy ever stop. On 01-Nov-2010, at 2:52 PM, Christopher LILJENSTOLPE wrote: I just talked to Lin Du (who I worked with when I was at Woven), who is the current CEO of Pica8. Don't know anything about the product, but this didn't seem like Lin's style. Turns out

Re: Clarification from Pica8 (was Fwd: Mystery open source switchingcompany claims top-of-rack price edge)

2010-11-01 Thread Tammy A Wisdom
Hahah. I love it when my hunch is correct. I swear that he ate lead paint chips as a kid. The b will be visiting soon I bet Tammy A Wisdom Summit Open Source Development Group -Original Message- From: Christopher LILJENSTOLPE c...@asgaard.org Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 17:52:23 To:

Re: BGP support on ASA5585-X

2010-11-01 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Juniper srx runs JunOS. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net wrote: Juniper Netscreen does, in case the OP is looking for alternatives. Best regards, Jeff -- Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@gmail.com)

RE: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-01 Thread Lee Howard
Since there's a thread here, I'll mention rDNS for residential users. I'm not sure there's consensus about whether forward and reverse ought to match (how strong a should is that?). I know you can't populate every potential record in a reverse zone, as in IPv4. You can generate records on the

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-01 Thread Jason Iannone
Define long prefix length. Owen has been fairly forceful in his advocacy of /48s at every site. Is this too long a prefix? Should peers only except /32s and shorter? On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 1:12 PM, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: On Oct 31, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:

Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-01 Thread Greg Whynott
off topic… you recently converted from token ring to ethernet? i had no idea there was still token ring networks out there, or am i living in a bubble? -g On Oct 31, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Paul WALL wrote: I don't know what the big deal is. I've rolled at least 20 of these switches into my

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-01 Thread Stephen Sprunk
On 01 Nov 2010 10:08, Jason Iannone wrote: Define long prefix length. Owen has been fairly forceful in his advocacy of /48s at every site. Is this too long a prefix? Should peers only except /32s and shorter? One assumes unpaid peers will accept prefixes up to the maximum length the RIR

APRICOT 2011 Call For Papers

2010-11-01 Thread Jonny Martin
Asia Pacific Regional Internet Conference on Operational Technologies (APRICOT) 15 - 25 February 2011, Hong Kong http://www.apricot2011.net CALL FOR PAPERS === The APRICOT 2011 Programme Committee is now seeking contributions for Presentations and Tutorials for APRICOT 2011. We are

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-01 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 10:24:31 + (GMT) Tim Franklin t...@pelican.org wrote: Surely your not saying we ought to make getting PI easy, easy enough that the other options just don't make sense so that all residential users get PI so that if their ISP disappears their network doesn't break?

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Mark Smith na...@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:32:39 -0400 Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:10 PM, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:45

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-01 Thread Owen DeLong
On Nov 1, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Mark Smith wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:32:39 -0400 Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:10 PM, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:45 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: If Woody had gone straight to

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-01 Thread Tim Franklin
This isn't to do with anything low level like RAs. This is about people proposing every IPv6 end-site gets PI i.e. a default free zone with multiple billions of routes instead of using ULAs for internal, stable addressing. It's as though they're not aware that the majority of end-sites on the

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
oops, I clipped a little too much from the message before replying... On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Mark Smith na...@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org wrote: Permanent connectivity to the global IPv6 Internet, while common, should not be essential to being able to run

Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-01 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 01/11/2010 15:21, Greg Whynott wrote: you recently converted from token ring to ethernet? i had no idea there was still token ring networks out there, or am i living in a bubble? Sadly, you're living in a bubble. As long as there are banks and very large commercial institutions, there

RE: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-01 Thread Richard Graves (RHT)
Halloween is over, why do you have to keep saying scary things like that.. (even if it is true, unfortunately) -Richard -Original Message- From: Nick Hilliard [mailto:n...@foobar.org] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 12:48 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Token ring? topic hijack:

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-01 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:20:41 -0700 Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Nov 1, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Mark Smith wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:32:39 -0400 Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:10 PM, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: On Oct

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-01 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Hi, 2) ULA brings with it (as do any options that include multiple addresses) host-stack complexity and address-selection issues... 'do I use ULA here or GUA when talking to the remote host?' There's an app for that (or rather a library routine called getaddrinfo() and an optional

RE: Ethernet performance tests

2010-11-01 Thread Holmes,David A
EXFO also sells the BRIX SLA verifier, which calculates RTT, packet loss, and jitter for various applications running on top of the link layer. -Original Message- From: Tim Jackson [mailto:jackson@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:54 PM To: Diogo Montagner Cc:

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-01 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Gary E. Miller wrote: See also sipcalc. Thanks, I wasn't aware of the various commandline tools available yet. Except the dig option to convert IPv6 rDNS. But the tool I mentioned also creates a whole zone file for you based on what you entered, which I then used to correct the zone file I

Re: IPv6 fc00::/7 — Unique local addresses

2010-11-01 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Karl Auer wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 18:48 -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: Uh, no... You're misreading it. Yes - I read the ISP bit, not the end user bit. It cost me $625 (or possibly less) one-time when I first got it. That was with the waivers in force. It will soon cost a one-time US

Re: IPv6 fc00::/7 — Unique local addresses

2010-11-01 Thread Randy Bush
It cost me $625 (or possibly less) one-time when I first got it. one time? truely one time? no other fees or strings? randy

Re: IPv6 fc00::/7 — Unique local addresses

2010-11-01 Thread Karl Auer
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 15:26 -0700, Jeroen van Aart wrote: Karl Auer wrote: That was with the waivers in force. It will soon cost a one-time US $1250. We could argue till the cows come home about what proportion of the population would consider that prohibitive but I'm guessing that even

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-01 Thread Mark Andrews
In message aanlktinumzyp9qe0i5phyz72al3xyctvaqhjzhutk...@mail.gmail.com, Mich el de Nostredame writes: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Jeroen van Aart jer...@mompl.net wrote: I battled for a few hours getting IPv6 rDNS to work. The following tool proved to be quite helpful:

Equinix of Candia?

2010-11-01 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Who if anyone is the Equinix of Candia? Cheers Ryan

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-01 Thread Owen DeLong
On Nov 1, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Mark Smith wrote: On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 10:24:31 + (GMT) Tim Franklin t...@pelican.org wrote: Surely your not saying we ought to make getting PI easy, easy enough that the other options just don't make sense so that all residential users get PI so that if

Re: Equinix of Candia?

2010-11-01 Thread Paul WALL
Equinix at 151 Front? Drive Slow, Paul Wall On 11/1/10, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: Who if anyone is the Equinix of Candia? Cheers Ryan -- Sent from my mobile device

Re: Equinix of Candia?

2010-11-01 Thread David DiGiacomo
If you mean Canada, Equinix bought out Switch Data so Equinix is directly Sent from my iPhone On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: Who if anyone is the Equinix of Candia? Cheers Ryan

RE: Equinix of Candia?

2010-11-01 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Yes sorry it has been a long day. Canada. Is the only Switch Data center in Toronto? -Original Message- From: Kevin Karch [mailto:kevinka...@vackinc.com] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 9:16 PM To: 'David DiGiacomo' Cc: Ryan Finnesey Subject: RE: Equinix of Candia? We do have

RE: Equinix of Candia?

2010-11-01 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Equinix only has one center within Toronto.Is there someone with a larger number of centers across the country? -Original Message- From: Paul WALL [mailto:pauldotw...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:56 PM To: Ryan Finnesey; NANOG list Subject: Re: Equinix of Candia?

RE: Equinix of Candia?

2010-11-01 Thread Kevin Karch
We have national coverage on several cities with common companies with the same company. Please let me know your locations of interest. Kevin L. Karch Network Specialist Direct: 847-833-8810 Fax: 847-985-5550 Email: kevinka...@vackinc.com Web: www.vackinc.com The Optical Network Specialists

Re: Equinix of Candia?

2010-11-01 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 06:31:34PM -0700, Ryan Finnesey wrote: Equinix only has one center within Toronto. Is there someone with a larger number of centers across the country? I'm assuming when you say like Equinix you mean a carrier neutral colo where you can buy from, sell to, and

RE: Equinix of Candia?

2010-11-01 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Thank you Richard your reply was very helpful. Cheers Ryan -Original Message- From: Richard A Steenbergen [mailto:r...@e-gerbil.net] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:37 PM To: Ryan Finnesey Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Equinix of Candia? On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 06:31:34PM -0700, Ryan

Re: IPv6 fc00::/7 — Unique local addresses

2010-11-01 Thread Owen DeLong
On Nov 1, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Karl Auer wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 15:26 -0700, Jeroen van Aart wrote: Karl Auer wrote: That was with the waivers in force. It will soon cost a one-time US $1250. We could argue till the cows come home about what proportion of the population would consider

Re: IPv6 fc00::/7 — Unique local addresses

2010-11-01 Thread Owen DeLong
On Nov 1, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Randy Bush wrote: It cost me $625 (or possibly less) one-time when I first got it. one time? truely one time? no other fees or strings? randy Yes, one time. Truly one time. No other fees. The $100/year I was already paying for my other resources covers it,

Re: IPv6 fc00::/7 — Unique local addresses

2010-11-01 Thread David Conrad
Owen, On Nov 1, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: Yes, one time. Truly one time. No other fees. Let's say you returned all your IPv4 address space. What would happen if you then stopped paying? Regards, -drc

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-01 Thread Owen DeLong
On Nov 1, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: In message aanlktinumzyp9qe0i5phyz72al3xyctvaqhjzhutk...@mail.gmail.com, Mich el de Nostredame writes: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Jeroen van Aart jer...@mompl.net wrote: I battled for a few hours getting IPv6 rDNS to work. The

Re: IPv6 fc00::/7 — Unique local addresses

2010-11-01 Thread Karl Auer
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 20:03 -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: Interesting... I guess controlling your own internet fate hasn't been a priority for the companies where you've worked. Not one of my clients or the companies I have worked for has even given a second thought to approving the cost of

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-01 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 7e9af5e9-7b3a-4767-a1d3-8eab64031...@delong.com, Owen DeLong write s: On Nov 1, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: =20 In message = aanlktinumzyp9qe0i5phyz72al3xyctvaqhjzhutk...@mail.gmail.com, Mich el de Nostredame writes: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Jeroen van

Re: IPv6 fc00::/7 — Unique local addresses

2010-11-01 Thread David Conrad
On Nov 1, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Karl Auer wrote: It's not a one size fits all situation. Right. There are folks who are more than happy (in fact demand) to pay the RIRs for PI space and pay their ISPs to get that space routed. There are (probably) folks who are perfectly happy with PA and accept

RE: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses

2010-11-01 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
My guess is that the millions of residential users will be less and less enthused with (pure) PA each time they change service providers... That claim seems to be unsupported by current experience. Please elaborate. Nathan

Re: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses

2010-11-01 Thread David Conrad
On Nov 1, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Nathan Eisenberg wrote: My guess is that the millions of residential users will be less and less enthused with (pure) PA each time they change service providers... That claim seems to be unsupported by current experience. Please elaborate. Currently, most

Re: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses

2010-11-01 Thread Ben Jencks
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 00:58, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: On Nov 1, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Nathan Eisenberg wrote: My guess is that the millions of residential users will be less and less enthused with (pure) PA each time they change service providers... That claim seems to be