Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Mohacsi Janos
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Richard Barnes wrote: Could you elaborate? Which circumstances? On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: It works for routing native IPv6 under some circumstances as well. If the broadband service is provided with bridged mode (i.e. If

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 36, Issue 141

2011-01-27 Thread Ivan Brunello
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:11:46 -0500 From: Christopher cal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Network Naming To: nanog@nanog.org Message-ID: 4d3f3c92.9050...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I usually name them after ex-girlfriends On

Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Hank Nussbacher
World to run out of IP addresses soon, Internet expert says http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/sci/2011-01/26/c_13708282.htm Vint Cerf, who helped create IPv4 in 1977 and one of the founding fathers of the Web, told Australia's Sydney Morning Herald that IP addresses will be used up soon,

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Skeeve Stevens
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Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 27/01/2011 11:21, Hank Nussbacher wrote: I thought it was an experiment and I thought that 4.3 billion IPv4 addresses would be enough to do an experiment, Cerf was quoted as saying, adding it is his fault that we were running out of the addresses. Fortunately, web developers have fixed the

RE: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Gary Steers
Him, admitting fault, well then, why should we spend money on IPv6, if it's his fault does that mean he will come to our business to roll out v6? Let's get a list together of who he will visit first :) G Gary Steers Sharedband NOC/3rd Line Support E: gary.ste...@sharedband.com -Original

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Hank Nussbacher
At 12:24 27/01/2011 +, Nick Hilliard wrote: On 27/01/2011 11:21, Hank Nussbacher wrote: I thought it was an experiment and I thought that 4.3 billion IPv4 addresses would be enough to do an experiment, Cerf was quoted as saying, adding it is his fault that we were running out of the

Re: What's the current state of major access networks in North America ipv6 delivery status?

2011-01-27 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
Reading this thread, and building on many comments to a previous one, I definitely see the need for subnetting a /64 arising sooner than later. It might not be perfect, It might be ugly, but it will happen. And, if you ask me, I would rather subnet a /64 than end up with a ipv6 version of NAT, a

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 36, Issue 141

2011-01-27 Thread Scott Morris
So Do you run a small network? Or are there LOTS of EX-girlfriends? ;) Scott On 1/27/11 5:30 AM, Ivan Brunello wrote: Message: 10 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:11:46 -0500 From: Christopher cal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Network Naming To: nanog@nanog.org Message-ID:

Re: What's the current state of major access networks in North America ipv6 delivery status?

2011-01-27 Thread Antonio Querubin
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote: Reading this thread, and building on many comments to a previous one, I definitely see the need for subnetting a /64 arising sooner than later. It might not be perfect, It might be ugly, but it will happen. And, if you ask me, I would rather

Re: What's the current state of major access networks in North America ipv6 delivery status?

2011-01-27 Thread Thomas Narten
All the leading MSOs are actively working towards IPv6 trials and deployments, they're just at different stages. Comcast, as we all can see, is publicly leading, but there are others who are not too far behind. See U.S. cable companies embrace IPv6

Re: Ipv6 for the content provider

2011-01-27 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jan 27, 2011, at 2:53 AM, Antonio Querubin wrote: On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Owen DeLong wrote: It's actually pretty well known and it is documented in several places in plain sight. Where? A search for IPV6_V6ONLY in the FreeBSD Handbook yields nothing. You'd think the brokenness

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jan 27, 2011, at 4:24 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: On 27/01/2011 11:21, Hank Nussbacher wrote: I thought it was an experiment and I thought that 4.3 billion IPv4 addresses would be enough to do an experiment, Cerf was quoted as saying, adding it is his fault that we were running out of the

Re: What's the current state of major access networks in North America ipv6 delivery status?

2011-01-27 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
I guess I won't need to add routes to my gateway, only subnetting on the inside will probably do for the time being (a hub/spoke topology, routing only between directly-connected subnets). And many ISPs allow you to buy your own CPE. Using an AirPort Extreme (or other home router with similar

Re: What's the current state of major access networks in North America ipv6 delivery status?

2011-01-27 Thread Brzozowski, John
I am definitely *NOT* an advocate of NAT66 nor am I an advocate of further subneting a /64 into longer prefixes. Where additional IPv6 prefixes are required a prefix shorter than a /64 should be delegated. John = John Jason Brzozowski Comcast Cable e)

Re: What's the current state of major access networks in North America ipv6 delivery status?

2011-01-27 Thread Mark Andrews
In message c966c429.7fd46%john_brzozow...@cable.comcast.com, Brzozowski, John wri tes: In order to deploy /56 to end users would require an IPv6 /24 be dedicated to 6rd, /48s would require a dedicated IPv6 /16. This assumes an operator wants/needs to provide IPv6 via 6rd to end users where

Re: What's the current state of major access networks in North America ipv6 delivery status?

2011-01-27 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
I agree with you, but, will it happen? The same fixed boundary behaviour that makes the /64 so convenient for LAN addressing ends up making the same /64 very convenient for ISPs as well. They associate the /64 with the single public IP they issue to customers nowadays. Again, I would *love* to be

Re: What's the current state of major access networks in North America ipv6 delivery status?

2011-01-27 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jan 27, 2011, at 5:11 AM, Antonio Querubin wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote: Reading this thread, and building on many comments to a previous one, I definitely see the need for subnetting a /64 arising sooner than later. Why? It might not be perfect, It

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Jack Bates
On 1/27/2011 12:57 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: Have you looked at D-Link's DIR-825? It has most of the things you're looking for. The DIR-655 is a more affordable option. Haven't had the chance to look at that one. Will check it out. In regards to (2), is it even possible to do DHCPv6-PD on with

Re: PPPOE vs DHCP

2011-01-27 Thread Jack Bates
On 1/27/2011 1:05 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: By IA_TA support, do you mean the ability for the 7206VXR to act as the DHCPv6 server? If I understand you correctly, I have it working well with DHCPv6 relay. Yeah, IA_TA is the temporary addresses (compared to prefix delegation). I haven't tested

Re: Another v6 question

2011-01-27 Thread Max Pierson
V4 30 years ago -- expected consumption: ~60 /8s of 256. IPv6 today -- expected consumption: Maybe 15 /12s of 4096. The scales in question are vastly different. I made no such comparison between the two. The scales are vastly different, but I think you're still missing my point. 30 years ago, no

Re: Another v6 question

2011-01-27 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: I'd like to see IPv4 go away in ~3 years. Any faster would be too traumatic. I think 6 years is a perfectly reasonable time frame. I think if it takes 11 years it will be because of significant foot-dragging by some key organizations. I'm not

Re: What's the current state of major access networks in North America ipv6 delivery status?

2011-01-27 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jan 27, 2011, at 6:08 AM, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote: I agree with you, but, will it happen? The same fixed boundary behaviour that makes the /64 so convenient for LAN addressing ends up making the same /64 very convenient for ISPs as well. They associate the /64 with the single

Re: PPPOE vs DHCP

2011-01-27 Thread Jack Bates
On 1/27/2011 1:09 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: I'm not as sold on RBE in a 7206VXR, even though I really could use the same Option 82 in the same way as we do for FTTH. What was your problem with RBE? I've loved it (except for the 3000 interface configs that take 3-5minutes to write). Jack

Re: Another v6 question

2011-01-27 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jan 27, 2011, at 6:49 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: I'd like to see IPv4 go away in ~3 years. Any faster would be too traumatic. I think 6 years is a perfectly reasonable time frame. I think if it takes 11 years it will be because of

Re: Another v6 question

2011-01-27 Thread Max Pierson
I'm not missing your point. I'm saying that in IPv6, we've put enough addresses in to allow for things nobody has thought of in 30, 60, 90, even 100 years and then some. As Roland said, Possibly, as long as we don't blow through them via exercises in profligacy nobody has heretofore thought of,

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Dan White
On 27/01/11 08:17 -0600, Jack Bates wrote: On 1/27/2011 12:57 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: Have you looked at D-Link's DIR-825? It has most of the things you're looking for. The DIR-655 is a more affordable option. Haven't had the chance to look at that one. Will check it out. In regards to (2),

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Jack Bates
On 1/27/2011 9:25 AM, Dan White wrote: The DIR-825(Rev B) running firmware 2.05NA does. From the status screen: IPv6 Connection Type : Autoconfiguration (SLAAC/DHCPv6) Nice. New love for D-Link then. I've had DSL modem vendors sending me their IPv6 stuff. It's been horrid.

RE: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Frank Bulk
I don't know what I was thinking last night, but I believe I had SLAAC + DHCPv6-PD working myself, but wasn't satisfied. =) I'm not comfortable using SLAAC for WAN addresses in a service provider environment. I do DHCPv4 relay today. DHCPv6 relay worked perfectly on an PVI, but with a SVI with

/64 is enough until 2021 for 90% of users (was Re: Another v6 question)

2011-01-27 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Jan 27, 2011, at 6:49 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: I'd like to see IPv4 go away in ~3 years. Any faster would be too traumatic. I think 6 years is a perfectly reasonable time frame. I think

RE: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Frank Bulk
Agreed, the DSL stuff is horrid. When using PPPoE it asks me to enter the default IPv6 gateway. You got to be kidding me. Frank -Original Message- From: Jack Bates [mailto:jba...@brightok.net] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:34 AM To: Dan White Cc: frnk...@iname.com;

Re: NANOG 51 (Miami): ISP Security BOF

2011-01-27 Thread Paul Scanlon
All, Thanks for the feedback on the topics for the NANOG ISP Security Track BoF Scheduled on Monday 4:30 - 6 pm in the Grand conference room. Brief Snapshot of the current agenda: - RPKI Deployment Overview and Example - Operation Payback, Anonymous Tool Set Taxonomy - Briefing on SPAM

RE: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Brian Johnson
I'm a bit torn on this issue. I haven't even heard any other main-stream sources say anything on this topic. But Incorrect info is bad too. I hope the viewers who watched this are getting the gist that Something wicked this way comes. :) LOL - Brian J. -Original Message- From: Owen

Contact at Dynadot

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher
I have been knocking down this Romanian IRC botnet since Thanksgiving and Dynadot has been dragging their feet. I even called and talked to someone in tech support, which was an Asian guy with a small grasp of English but that's another discussion, and still they say they are investigating it

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Brian Johnson bjohn...@drtel.com wrote: I'm a bit torn on this issue. I haven't even heard any other main-stream sources say anything on this topic. But Incorrect info is bad too. I hope the viewers who watched this are getting the gist that Something

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 1/27/11 7:33 AM, Jack Bates wrote: On 1/27/2011 9:25 AM, Dan White wrote: The DIR-825(Rev B) running firmware 2.05NA does. From the status screen: IPv6 Connection Type : Autoconfiguration (SLAAC/DHCPv6) Nice. New love for D-Link then. I've had DSL modem vendors sending me

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Jorge Amodio
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/26/internet-run-ip-addresses-happens-anyones-guess/ It's the end of the web as we know it. We are doomed !! Glad to know that, since a large percentage of it suxs. Can we go back to the ftp.funet.fi (still up !! ) and gopher ? Cheers Jorge

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Jim Gettys
On 01/27/2011 12:46 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: On 1/27/11 7:33 AM, Jack Bates wrote: On 1/27/2011 9:25 AM, Dan White wrote: The DIR-825(Rev B) running firmware 2.05NA does. From the status screen: IPv6 Connection Type : Autoconfiguration (SLAAC/DHCPv6) Nice. New love for D-Link

RE: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Brian Johnson
I really wish people would keep their personal/political bias outside the list unless it is specific and relevant. What other main-stream news organization has made any reports on this issue? To be clear, FOX screwed this up big time, but that doesn't mean we all need to get out our

RE: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Scott Weeks
--- frnk...@iname.com wrote: From: Frank Bulk frnk...@iname.com Have you looked at D-Link's DIR-825? It has most of the things you're --- Ewww, yuck! ...this router utilizes dual active firewalls (SPI and NAT) to prevent potential attacks from

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jan 27, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/26/internet-run-ip-addresses-happens-anyones-guess/ It's the end of the web as we know it. We are doomed !! Glad to know that, since a large percentage of it suxs. Can we go back to the

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Kee Hinckley
On Jan 27, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Brian Johnson wrote: I really wish people would keep their personal/political bias outside the list unless it is specific and relevant. What other main-stream news organization has made any reports on this issue? As much as I agree with the comments people have

Re: PPPOE vs DHCP - RIPE Database

2011-01-27 Thread Peter Dambier
Hi, I have not seen this in the discussion yet. http://labs.ripe.net/Members/mirjam/ipv6-cpe-survey-updated-january-2011 CPE support does not seem to be very broad yet. As far as I can see there is almost PPPoE only for IPv6 in Europe. In Germany cable is a mess by regulation. So no

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Brian Johnson bjohn...@drtel.com I really wish people would keep their personal/political bias outside the list unless it is specific and relevant. What other main-stream news organization has made any reports on this issue? To be clear, FOX screwed this

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Jay Ashworth
[ Sorry; forgot to address this to the list, earlier. ] - Original Message - From: Brian Johnson bjohn...@drtel.com I'm a bit torn on this issue. I haven't even heard any other main-stream sources say anything on this topic. But Incorrect info is bad too. I hope the viewers who

Re: Another v6 question

2011-01-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 07:04:31 PST, Owen DeLong said: On Jan 27, 2011, at 6:49 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: The ipv6 zealots talking about anything but a /64 for end-site are talking about a business class service. Even with my static IPs at home, I have no need for more than a single /64 to be

Re: Another v6 question

2011-01-27 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Jared Mauch wrote: The ipv6 zealots talking about anything but a /64 for end-site are talking about a business class service. Even with my static IPs at home, I have no need for more than a single /64 to be used in my wildest dreams. I could live with ~256 ips for the

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread david raistrick
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Jay Ashworth wrote: Fox didn't screw up, for a change, and Vint's quote appears in many other news sources. Apparently, I'm the only one on Nanog who knows about this new thing called The Google. :-) Fox (in the linked article) didn't quote Vint. They said useful

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread david raistrick
here's the original quote (which a friend had pasted to me): Web developers have tried to compensate for this problem by creating IPv6 -- a system that recognizes six-digit IP addresses rather than four-digit ones. On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, david raistrick wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Jay

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Jeff Kell
On 1/27/2011 2:43 PM, david raistrick wrote: here's the original quote (which a friend had pasted to me): Web developers have tried to compensate for this problem by creating IPv6 -- a system that recognizes six-digit IP addresses rather than four-digit ones. And as replied privately to

RE: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread George, Wes E [NTK]
-Original Message- From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:j...@baylink.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:06 PM To: NANOG Subject: Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses - Original Message - From: Brian Johnson bjohn...@drtel.com To be clear, FOX screwed

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Jay Ashworth
Let me clarify: The original question was (so far as I could see): Was Fox making up the quote where Vint took the blame for IPv4 exhaustion? The answer, of course, was no, they didn't; lots of people have the quote. I wasn't speaking to the technical details of the actual piece, which,

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Robert Mathews (OSIA)
George, Wes E [NTK] wrote: The second one from several months ago is still borked: IPv4, ... the unique 32-digit number used to identify each computer, website or internet-connected device. ... The solution to the problem is IPv6, which uses a 128-digit address. So, first it was 32 digits,

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Mark Keymer
What I don't understand is I can only guess they must have a IT team. And Maybe even 1 or more people that view this list. Why don't they just talk to there own staff about the issues? Maybe one of the IT guess saw the issues talked about the articles and contacted the news team about the bad

Re: [dnsext] Historical root keys: The Large Router Vendor Speaks

2011-01-27 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: John Bashinski jb...@cisco.com Well, this has generated some interesting messages, and apparently some people think that the large router vendor in question should speak for itself. Yay! Realities = 5. Some of the people installing these

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 1/27/11 10:01 AM, Jim Gettys wrote: For god's sake, stay away from the DIR-825(Rev A), which has been effectively abandoned by DLINK support and has no IPv6 support at all. pretty sure you can't find those on the shelf... The current model I bought on a lark for someone for christmas

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Joel Jaeggli
unlike a simpler device you can actually turn that off. in fact it has more knobs than you've likely seen in a consumer cpe... joel On 1/27/11 10:40 AM, Scott Weeks wrote: --- frnk...@iname.com wrote: From: Frank Bulk frnk...@iname.com Have you looked at D-Link's DIR-825? It has most

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Brielle
On Thu, January 27, 2011 2:31 pm, Joel Jaeggli wrote: On 1/27/11 10:01 AM, Jim Gettys wrote: For god's sake, stay away from the DIR-825(Rev A), which has been effectively abandoned by DLINK support and has no IPv6 support at all. pretty sure you can't find those on the shelf... The current

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread mikea
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:26:58PM -0800, Mark Keymer wrote: What I don't understand is I can only guess they must have a IT team. And Maybe even 1 or more people that view this list. Why don't they just talk to there own staff about the issues? Maybe one of the IT guess saw the issues talked

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 27, 2011 03:26:58 pm Mark Keymer wrote: If you work at FOX maybe you should help get the news guys on the right page. :) Coming from broadcast engineering prior to my current IT gig, let me tell you that in most larger broadcast organizations the tech folk are rather

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Paul Graydon
I consider it to be very much part of the general attitude of news organisations towards the online content. It seems in general that very little editorial oversight takes place with online content, compared to what might appear in print. Often seems rather much like the content comes direct

test-ipv6.com

2011-01-27 Thread Jason Fesler
Several people have suggested I (re)post information about test-ipv6.com here. http://test-ipv6.com .. tests ipv4 and ipv6 by dns name tests dual stack (will the client break on World IPv6 Day?) tests ipv6 by IP literal (teredo can pass this) gives advice to end user about current

SP Sizing math?

2011-01-27 Thread Thomas Magill
So keep in mind I don't have an SP background. I have a client who has this idea of getting into the SP business and I'm trying to help them realize, realistically, what kind of undertaking this will be. For a residential SP, what is a good reference for general guidelines on sizing. Such

Re: Future of the IPv6 CPE survey on RIPE Labs - Your Input Needed

2011-01-27 Thread Scott Weeks
On 1/27/11 10:40 AM, Scott Weeks wrote: --- frnk...@iname.com wrote: From: Frank Bulk frnk...@iname.com Have you looked at D-Link's DIR-825? It has most of the things you're --- Ewww, yuck! ...this router utilizes dual active firewalls (SPI

Connectivity status for Egypt

2011-01-27 Thread Danny O'Brien
Around 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts in Egypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirmability): 1) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) ISPs 2) No SMS 4) Intermittent connectivity with smaller (dialup?) ISPs 5) No mobile service in

RE: Clearwire/Clear for branch office connectivity?

2011-01-27 Thread Jason Roysdon - NANOG
As a Clear customer, some things that I would inform you of: Using RFC1918 in their backbone: Traceroute from my internal network out: $ traceroute 8.8.8.8 traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 10.12.250.49 (10.12.250.49) 1.671 ms 1.467 ms 3.214 ms - my network 2

Re: Connectivity status for Egypt

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher
I have a server with CityNet Host in Cairo. The server and ISP are completely offline

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread todd glassey
On 1/27/2011 12:56 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: On Thursday, January 27, 2011 03:26:58 pm Mark Keymer wrote: If you work at FOX maybe you should help get the news guys on the right page. :) Coming from broadcast engineering prior to my current IT gig, let me tell you that in most larger broadcast

Re: test-ipv6.com

2011-01-27 Thread Mark Andrews
In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1101271448000.15...@goat.gigo.com, Jason Fesler wr ites: Several people have suggested I (re)post information about test-ipv6.com here. http://test-ipv6.com .. tests ipv4 and ipv6 by dns name tests dual stack (will the client break on World IPv6 Day?)

Re: test-ipv6.com

2011-01-27 Thread Matthew Moyle-Croft
On 28/01/2011, at 10:46 AM, Mark Andrews wrote: d. Please direct any comments, flames, etc directly to me instead of the list. I've added enough noise already :-) Note you can have totally broken IPv6 connectivity and still be fine on World IPv6 day. You just need applications with

Re: test-ipv6.com

2011-01-27 Thread Jason Fesler
Note you can have totally broken IPv6 connectivity and still be fine on World IPv6 day. You just need applications with good multi-homing support. Agreed so far. No web site can check this for you. Hmm. What's wrong with asking the browser to try a dual-stack url today, as a proxy for

Re: Connectivity status for Egypt

2011-01-27 Thread Craig V
Some interesting financial news... Unsure if this is related the outages, but interesting. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/egypt-market-slumps-as-mideast-turmoil-spreads-2011-01-27 EGYPT: Stock market stumbles amid nationwide

Re: test-ipv6.com

2011-01-27 Thread Jack Bates
On 1/27/2011 6:25 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote: Anyone for peering cake? Yeah, Google, HE, Cogent, Sprint, Qwest, and Level3 all need peering cakes (as I'm pretty sure there is no participant in that list which is connected to every other participant in that list). If you could bake

Re: Connectivity status for Egypt

2011-01-27 Thread Paul Graydon
I'd suspect it's got a lot more to do with the open rioting on the streets, government shooting people, the numbers involved in protests, what happened in Tunisia next door etc. etc. Loss of Internet connectivity is relatively minor in comparison. Any investor with even half a brain is going

Re: Another v6 question

2011-01-27 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: I expect that in ~3 years, we will see dual-stack and /64's handed out in conjunction with an IPv4 address as common. The ipv6 zealots talking about anything but a /64 for

Re: Another v6 question

2011-01-27 Thread Jack Bates
On 1/27/2011 7:03 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: Security and logical division are a few ideas. You might not care to do that now... but in 20 years, when you have 10 smart chip / IP-based home automation enabled devices on your LAN. My helpdesk decided to counter with We'll run out because of

Re: Connectivity status for Egypt

2011-01-27 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 27, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Danny O'Brien wrote: Around 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts in Egypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirmability): 1) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) ISPs 2) No SMS 4) Intermittent

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Jan 27, 2011, at 4:53 22PM, mikea wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:26:58PM -0800, Mark Keymer wrote: What I don't understand is I can only guess they must have a IT team. And Maybe even 1 or more people that view this list. Why don't they just talk to there own staff about the issues?

Re: Connectivity status for Egypt

2011-01-27 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Marshall Eubanks t...@americafree.tv wrote: On twitter (follow the #jan25 and #jan28 hash tags), there are many reports of loss of internet connectivity in Egypt. Apparently cell phones and land lines are still

Re: test-ipv6.com

2011-01-27 Thread Mark Andrews
In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1101271623320.15...@goat.gigo.com, Jason Fesler wr ites: Note you can have totally broken IPv6 connectivity and still be fine on World IPv6 day. You just need applications with good multi-homing support. Agreed so far. No web site can check this for you.

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread mikea
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 08:20:54PM -0500, Steven Bellovin wrote: On Jan 27, 2011, at 4:53 22PM, mikea wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:26:58PM -0800, Mark Keymer wrote: What I don't understand is I can only guess they must have a IT team. And Maybe even 1 or more people that view this

Re: test-ipv6.com

2011-01-27 Thread mikea
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 06:59:15PM -0600, Jack Bates wrote: On 1/27/2011 6:25 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote: Anyone for peering cake? Yeah, Google, HE, Cogent, Sprint, Qwest, and Level3 all need peering cakes (as I'm pretty sure there is no participant in that list which is connected

Re: Connectivity status for Egypt

2011-01-27 Thread Andree Toonk
Hi, Looking at the BGP announcements it seems that the problem started at around 22:28 UTC. Most of the Autonomous systems operating in Egypt are currently not announcing any or at least significantly less prefixes. The one exception seems to be AS20928 (Noor Data Networks). For more

Re: Connectivity status for Egypt

2011-01-27 Thread Loránd Jakab
On 01/28/2011 12:47 AM, Danny O'Brien wrote: If anyone can provide more details as to what they're seeing, the extent, plus times and dates, it would be very useful. In moments like this there are often many unconfirmed rumors: I'm seeking concrete reliable confirmation which I can pass onto

Re: [arin-announce] ARIN Resource Certification Update

2011-01-27 Thread Osterweil, Eric
Sorry to be Johnny-come-lately to this... On 1/24/11 6:31 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: Right, I've heard the circular dependency arguments. So, are you suggesting the RPKI isn't going to rely on DNS at all? correct. it need not. Maybe I am misunderstand something here... Are

Re: [arin-announce] ARIN Resource Certification Update

2011-01-27 Thread Osterweil, Eric
On 1/25/11 7:04 AM, Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:52 PM, Joe Abley wrote: If the DNS was as unreliable as those words suggested, nobody would use it. I see evidence of this unreliability every day, so I must respectfully disagree. ; The

Re: What's the current state of major access networks in North America ipv6 delivery status?

2011-01-27 Thread Antonio Querubin
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Owen DeLong wrote: If they're routing a /64 to your gateway, you're all set. If they're not, then, how are you getting the /64 in the first place? Bridged ethernet across the broadband provider network to the ISP router. Each customer gets a single /64 vlan to their

Re: [arin-announce] ARIN Resource Certification Update

2011-01-27 Thread Jack Bates
On 1/27/2011 7:51 PM, Osterweil, Eric wrote: I think the bottom line is that this infrastructure will allow a security solution to reach deployment_much_ sooner than a green-field design. Errr, yeah. See IPv6 deployment. Jack

Re: [arin-announce] ARIN Resource Certification Update

2011-01-27 Thread Randy Bush
Why does this stop the whole thing short? the devil is in the details and the trust. i am desperately open to other approaches. but work it out at the detailed level, not just a troll on nanog. i anxiously await your and danny's draft. randy

Re: What's the current state of major access networks in North America ipv6 delivery status?

2011-01-27 Thread Jack Bates
On 1/27/2011 7:56 PM, Antonio Querubin wrote: If the ISP wont route additional prefixes, then the customer is forced to do the latter. If the ISP wont route additional prefixes, they don't support IPv6. Jack

Re: Connectivity status for Egypt

2011-01-27 Thread Roy
On 1/27/2011 3:47 PM, Danny O'Brien wrote: Around 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts in Egypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirmability): 1) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) ISPs 2) No SMS 4) Intermittent connectivity with

Re: Connectivity status for Egypt

2011-01-27 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Roy r.engehau...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest that you confine your information to the press on what you know rather than speculation on the cause. I think the earlier references to the BGPmon blog article is

Re: Connectivity status for Egypt

2011-01-27 Thread Danny O'Brien
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Roy r.engehau...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/27/2011 3:47 PM, Danny O'Brien wrote: Around 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts in Egypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirmability): 1) Internet connectivity loss on

ARIN IRR Authentication (was: Re: AltDB?)

2011-01-27 Thread John Curran
On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:14 AM, John Curran wrote: As noted, we're now looking into how to fix the IRR authentication situation and will report back asap. Based on the ARIN's IRR authentication thread a couple of weeks ago, there were suggestions placed into ARIN's ACSP process for changes to

Collos in Memphis, TN and Louisville, KY?

2011-01-27 Thread Graham Wooden
Hi folks, Can anyone recommend any collo's in both Memphis TN and Louisville, KY? Preferably in their respective downtown areas? Thanks mucho, -graham

best PCRF for pre-paid mobile solutions?

2011-01-27 Thread Rogelio
I am researching some PCRF solutions for some work I am doing with non-US operators, and I am looking for features that work well in pre-paid mobile environments, particularly ones that want to cap or charge 3G and WiFi at different rates / levels. Any suggestions or contacts? -- Also on

overview of RAN solutions?

2011-01-27 Thread Rogelio
I am wrapping my mind around the myriad of RAN solutions out there, and I would appreciate it if someone had a good overview of the subject or could direct me to new vendors worth investigating. So far, I see ones that are designed to (a) increase coverage, (b) increase capacity, or (c) do some

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Brian Johnson bjohn...@drtel.com wrote: I really wish people would keep their personal/political bias outside the list unless it is specific and relevant. What other main-stream news organization has made any reports on this issue? To be clear, FOX screwed

Re: Found: Who is responsible for no more IP addresses

2011-01-27 Thread Jima
On 1/27/2011 6:24 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: On 27/01/2011 11:21, Hank Nussbacher wrote: I thought it was an experiment and I thought that 4.3 billion IPv4 addresses would be enough to do an experiment, Cerf was quoted as saying, adding it is his fault that we were running out of the addresses.

Re: Connectivity status for Egypt

2011-01-27 Thread Craig Labovitz
And to add to this thread, an graph of Egyptian Internet traffic across a large number of geographically / topologically diverse providers yesterday (Jan 27): http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5291/5395027368_7d97b74c0b_b.jpg Traffic drops to a handful of megabits following the withdrawal of

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