Re: Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread Owen DeLong
He is mistaken... HE Tunnels are an example of 6in4 and it is not deprecated, but, some original mechanisms for 6in4 to which he may be referring were deprecated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6in4 Owen On Mar 3, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Karl Auer wrote: > On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 20:27 -0500, TJ wrote:

Re: Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread sthaug
> > 6to4 is handy as a toy or for experimenting, but it relies on a loose > > network of generous volunteers who, while generous, are neither > > generous nor numerous enough to support production traffic. > > Any ISP that is delivering IPv6 to their clients would be insane > to not run a 6to4 rel

Re: Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread Karl Auer
On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 20:27 -0500, TJ wrote: > 6in4 == deprecated automatic tunneling mechanism ... HE is an example of > manually configured Protocol41 encaps. Deprecated? Do you have a reference...? Thanks, K. -- ~~~ Karl Aue

Re: [v6z] Re: Interesting google redirects.

2011-03-03 Thread Scott Howard
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Mark Keymer wrote: > On this same subject. My techs have been complaining lately about our new > VPS's we are making going to google.vm. Is there anything I can do on my end > to get this corrected? > http://www.google.com/support/websearch/bin/answer.py?hl=en&an

Re: Postfix spam

2011-03-03 Thread Joshua William Klubi
Then like Robert Suggest he should implement step 2 and it would solve his problem asap Joshua On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > The headers this guy sent me offlist = what you suggest just wouldn't > work, sorry. > > He most likely had a rootkit on his server that

Re: Interesting google redirects.

2011-03-03 Thread Mark Keymer
On this same subject. My techs have been complaining lately about our new VPS's we are making going to google.vm. Is there anything I can do on my end to get this corrected? Sincerely, Mark Keymer Raymond Macharia wrote: Noticed the same thing to the .com.hk Raymond Macharia On Thu, Mar

Re: Interesting google redirects.

2011-03-03 Thread Raymond Macharia
Noticed the same thing to the .com.hk Raymond Macharia On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Wayne Lee wrote: > >> also some EU customers are getting redirected to .au domain > > Mine got redirected to google.be for a while. > >

Re: Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread Owen DeLong
HE uses 6in4. 6in4 is basically the same protocol as 6to4, but, with defined end-points for point-to-point tunneling packets from multipoint to multipoint. 6to4, conversely, uses anycast to identify the tunnel exit point towards the IPv6 network or to identify the tunnel entry point towards the IP

Re: Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:54 PM, William Herrin wrote: > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Hammer wrote: >> I need a cheat sheet. >> >> nat64 >> 6to4nat >> 6in4nat >> etc... > > 6to4 and 6in4 are not NAT. They're tunnels (VPNs) that allow two IPv6 > nodes to talk to each other via an IPv4 backbone. >

RE: Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread Frank Bulk
There's no assurance that the content provider will use the ISP's 6to4 relay. In fact, there's a good chance it won't use the ISP's 6to4 relay for return traffic. Frank -Original Message- From: Mark Andrews [mailto:ma...@isc.org] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:17 PM To: William Herrin

RE: Where are the VoIP clue bats?

2011-03-03 Thread Scott Berkman
http://voip-info.orgGreat general reference http://voiceops.org Great List (ok I helped start it so I might be a little biased) http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip Cisco VOIP specific list -Scott -Original Message- From: Eric Brunner-Williams [mailto

Re: Postfix spam

2011-03-03 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
The headers this guy sent me offlist = what you suggest just wouldn't work, sorry. He most likely had a rootkit on his server that was emitting direct to MX spam. On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Joshua Klubi wrote: > Get A.S.S.P and integrate it with your postfix box, implement SPF and run > dk

Re: Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 08:27:18PM -0500, TJ wrote: > And 6to4 doesn't allow IPv6 to talk to IPv4, contrary to what the name seems > to imply :). > > Some poorly chosen names for our tunneling, yes? I think 6automaticallyover4 was determined to be too long. :P -- Leo

Re: Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread TJ
6in4 == deprecated automatic tunneling mechanism ... HE is an example of manually configured Protocol41 encaps. And 6to4 doesn't allow IPv6 to talk to IPv4, contrary to what the name seems to imply :). Some poorly chosen names for our tunneling, yes? Thanks, TJ's Droid2 On Mar 3, 2011 6:27 PM, "

Re: Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Will iam Herrin writes: > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Hammer wrote: > > A little better. So what's the difference between 6to4 and 6in4? > Isn't 6in4 what HE uses? > > I haven't used 6in4 so I couldn't tell you. > > 6to4 is a stateless tunnelling protocol. You have a dual-stack

Re: Mac OS X 10.7, still no DHCPv6

2011-03-03 Thread Bernhard Schmidt
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On a more serious note, I can on my Ubuntu machine just "apt-get install > wide-dhcpv6-client" and I get dhcpv6, it'll properly put stuff in > resolv.conf for dns-over-ipv6 transport, even though the connection > manager knows nothing about it, at least dual stack w

Re: Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread Elliot Finley
> > Ok, apparently there is NAT64 and there is NAT64. I don't believe the > poster was talking about a v6 load balancer VIP with v4 servers. I > think the OP is talking about the NAT64 portion of NAT64/DNS64 where > native v6 source and destination IPs are NATed to v4 destination and > source IPs

Re: AT&T via Tata and Level3

2011-03-03 Thread Robert Bonomi
> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:12:16 -0600 > From: Richard A Steenbergen > Subject: Re: AT&T via Tata and Level3 > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > > On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 11:15:51AM -0500, Morgan Miskell wrote: > > I've noticed that we have thousands of routes for AT&T via Tata that we > > don't have from A

Re: Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Hammer wrote: > A little better. So what's the difference between 6to4 and 6in4? Isn't 6in4 > what HE uses? I haven't used 6in4 so I couldn't tell you. 6to4 is a stateless tunnelling protocol. You have a dual-stacked router. It has an IPv4 address, 1.2.3.4. Theref

Windows Live Mail/Hotmail Postmaster Contact?

2011-03-03 Thread Ryan Gelobter
Can anyone provide me with an alternative contact to someone at Hotmail? I've tried their support form over at https://support.msn.com/eform.aspx?productKey=edfsmsbl&ct=eformts&st=1&wfxredirect=1which doesn't seem to ever generate even an auto-reply anymore. Feel free to contact me off-list.

Re: What vexes VoIP users?

2011-03-03 Thread Alexander O. Yuriev
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 04:08:36PM -0500, Scott Helms wrote: >> No, there's no particulary good technological reason why VOIP-over-cable >> system shouldn't be able to hand off calls to an arbitrary SIP device. >> >> The reason is purely business - it will destroy their own voice service >> user

RE: Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread George Bonser
> From: Elliot Finley > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 12:31 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Real World NAT64 deployments > > So as not to re-invent the wheel - if you are currently doing NAT64 in > production and are willing to share: > > What software/hardware are you using? > > Why? >

RE: Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread George Bonser
> -Original Message- > From: Elliot Finley > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 12:31 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Real World NAT64 deployments > > So as not to re-invent the wheel - if you are currently doing NAT64 in > production and are willing to share: > > What software/hardwar

Re: Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
6in4 is IPv6 encapsulated in IPv4 = protocol 41, typically used in manual tunnelling configuration and also in tunnel brokers and some other type of tunnels. 6to4 is an automatic transition mechanism that uses 6in4 to automatically create IPv6 tunnels using a special IPv6 prefix 2002::/16, appendi

Re: What vexes VoIP users? - Bufferbloat

2011-03-03 Thread Jim Gettys
On 03/01/2011 04:32 AM, William Pitcock wrote: That is the same market Vonage is now targeting in the US, basically. National calling in the US is basically bundled with most calling plans now. I'm not convinced that many people use Vonage in the US - my experience with it was that it was not

Re: Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread Hammer
A little better. So what's the difference between 6to4 and 6in4? Isn't 6in4 what HE uses? -Hammer- "I was a normal American nerd." -Jack Herer On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:54 PM, William Herrin wrote: > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Hammer wrote: > > I need a cheat sheet. > > > > nat64 >

Re: Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Hammer wrote: > I need a cheat sheet. > > nat64 > 6to4nat > 6in4nat > etc... 6to4 and 6in4 are not NAT. They're tunnels (VPNs) that allow two IPv6 nodes to talk to each other via an IPv4 backbone. nat64 is NAT. It allows IPv6 endpoints to communicate with IPv4 end

RE: What vexes VoIP users?

2011-03-03 Thread Frank Bulk
Depends on the network, but we use private IPs on the eMTA side of the CM. Frank -Original Message- From: Alexander O. Yuriev [mailto:alex-lists-na...@yuriev.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:48 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: What vexes VoIP users? > There's no particularly goo

Re: What vexes VoIP users?

2011-03-03 Thread Scott Helms
On 3/3/2011 3:47 PM, Alexander O. Yuriev wrote: There's no particularly good reason that a VoIP-over-cable system shouldn't be able to hand off calls to an arbitrary SIP device. No, there's no particulary good technological reason why VOIP-over-cable system shouldn't be able to hand off calls to

Re: Postfix spam

2011-03-03 Thread Joshua Klubi
Get A.S.S.P and integrate it with your postfix box, implement SPF and run dkimproxy on your postfix box and bid spams adieu . You would be surprised the power of ASSP . It is the best out there that kills spam dead on arrival and departure. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2011, at 10:18, Rober

Re: What vexes VoIP users?

2011-03-03 Thread Alexander O. Yuriev
> There's no particularly good reason that a VoIP-over-cable system > shouldn't be able to hand off calls to an arbitrary SIP device. No, there's no particulary good technological reason why VOIP-over-cable system shouldn't be able to hand off calls to an arbitrary SIP device. The reason is pure

OT: Where are the VoIP clue bats?

2011-03-03 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
First, thanks for all the responses to "What vexes VoIP users?" I'm looking for pointers to sites, like Geoff Huston's potaroo.net, that are VoIP clue dense, or mailing lists(*) where the VoIP-full lurk. Thanks in advance, Eric (*) I'm already on the ecrit list, though my real interest in the

Re: Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread Hammer
I need a cheat sheet. nat64 6to4nat 6in4nat etc... -Hammer- "I was a normal American nerd." -Jack Herer On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Elliot Finley wrote: > So as not to re-invent the wheel - if you are currently doing NAT64 in > production and are willing to share: > > What software/h

Real World NAT64 deployments

2011-03-03 Thread Elliot Finley
So as not to re-invent the wheel - if you are currently doing NAT64 in production and are willing to share: What software/hardware are you using? Why? TIA Elliot

Re: AT&T via Tata and Level3

2011-03-03 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 11:15:51AM -0500, Morgan Miskell wrote: > I've noticed that we have thousands of routes for AT&T via Tata that > we don't have from AT&T through Level3. I would expect Level3 to have > most of the routes for AT&T that Tata does since they are both > directly peered with

Re: icmp question

2011-03-03 Thread FRLinux
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:40 PM, ann kok wrote: > Hello > Have you had any experience about icmp from window and linux? > I ping this linux host and they all are same LAN > but Linux (ubuntu) is slow than window to this linux host > Do you know why? > Thank you Hello, Without posting any inteface

icmp question

2011-03-03 Thread ann kok
Hello Have you had any experience about icmp from window and linux? I ping this linux host and they all are same LAN but Linux (ubuntu) is slow than window to this linux host Do you know why? Thank you

RE: download speed very fast.

2011-03-03 Thread Frank Bulk
In addition to the CMTS configuration, added to the CM configuration file are a two parameters that describe how much more bandwidth (peak rate) and how many more bytes (burst size). More here on Cisco's implementation: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/cable/configuration/guide/cmts_docsis11_ p

Re: Interesting google redirects.

2011-03-03 Thread Paul Thornton
On 03/03/2011 16:55, p8x wrote: >> also some EU customers are getting redirected to .au domain >> I was being redirected to .ru earlier this week from UK addresses... Has stopped now. Paul.

Re: Interesting google redirects.

2011-03-03 Thread Wayne Lee
>> also some EU customers are getting redirected to .au  domain Mine got redirected to google.be for a while.

Re: Interesting google redirects.

2011-03-03 Thread p8x
I seem to be getting redirected to Google HK as well for the last week to 2 weeks or so (I am in AU). On 4/03/2011 12:50 AM, Varun wrote: I have seen some of our APAC customers getting redirected to google.com.tw; the internet egress point is in japan. also some EU customers are getting redir

Re: Interesting google redirects.

2011-03-03 Thread Varun
I have seen some of our APAC customers getting redirected to google.com.tw; the internet egress point is in japan. also some EU customers are getting redirected to .au domain On 03-Mar-2011 9:46 PM, "Richard Barnes" wrote: What networks are the affected clients on? On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1

Re: download speed very fast.

2011-03-03 Thread Scott Helms
Deric, Depending on the kind of access gear being used there are different methods for making this work. This kind of technology is most commonly deployed on DOCSIS cable systems, for example Comcast has this trademarked as PowerBoost and they have done a ton of marketing around it. You

RE: download speed very fast.

2011-03-03 Thread Rettke, Brian
It's essentially a 2 token bucket system. We implement based on the rate plan given via our DHCP server for residential customers, but it can be implemented using QoS on any router. Most DHCP server platforms offer it, and it is written into the configuration file downloaded by a cable modem. S

Re: download speed very fast.

2011-03-03 Thread Michael Proto
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Deric Kwok wrote: > Hi all > > Do you know about sppedboost? > > Why it can suddenly burst to higher transfer rate from first 10M > > Can you share what equipment behinds to make it work? > > eg: cisco, juniper? > > Thank you so much > > I don't know about hardware

AT&T via Tata and Level3

2011-03-03 Thread Morgan Miskell
I've noticed that we have thousands of routes for AT&T via Tata that we don't have from AT&T through Level3. I would expect Level3 to have most of the routes for AT&T that Tata does since they are both directly peered with AT&T. This seems to have started around midnight last nigh

Re: [BEWARE] David J. Moore

2011-03-03 Thread Lynda
On 3/3/2011 8:07 AM, isabel dias wrote: The only reason why you feel that way is cause you haven't been made aware and your network of friends is not "helping you at all" so do speak up and make yourself heard! No, don't speak up. Please don't pollute NANOG any further than it already is, and

Re: [BEWARE] David J. Moore

2011-03-03 Thread isabel dias
If you can't be good be carefull! A "relation" is just a relationship between sets of information What is a relation? A Relation is a group of Functions   - Original Message From: isabel dias To: litera...@gnaa.eu; full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk; nanog@nanog.org; irc-secur...@li

Re: Interesting google redirects.

2011-03-03 Thread Richard Barnes
What networks are the affected clients on? On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Skywing wrote: > (Apologies for the top-post.) > > I've been experiencing the same.  Seems like their geolocation data is busted > (since last morning at least), if I had to take a guess. > > - S > > -Original Messa

RE: Interesting google redirects.

2011-03-03 Thread Aaron Wendel
My IPs have been redirecting to google bk for several days. I thought it was just me. Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Skywing To: Wil Schultz , nanog Sent: Thu, Mar 3, 2011 15:53:36 GMT+00:00 Subject: RE: Interesting google redirects. (Apologies for the

Re: [BEWARE] David J. Moore

2011-03-03 Thread isabel dias
The only reason why you feel that way is cause you haven't been made aware and your network of friends is not "helping you at all" so do speak up and make yourself heard! - Original Message From: Leon Kaiser To: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk; nanog@nanog.org; irc-secur...@lists

RE: Interesting google redirects.

2011-03-03 Thread Skywing
(Apologies for the top-post.) I've been experiencing the same. Seems like their geolocation data is busted (since last morning at least), if I had to take a guess. - S -Original Message- From: Wil Schultz Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:25 To: NANOG Operators Group Subject: Interest

Re: Anyone has a contact with IP clue at VerizonBusiness?

2011-03-03 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 10:18:03 EST, Alex Yuriev said: > It seems the panic over IPv4 scarcity is resulting in the most peculiar > ideas bubbling up in the IP provisioning side What peculiar ideas might these be? Inquiring minds want to know (as well as those who seek amusement, or need to be ready

Cross connect from Telx to Level 3 @ 111 8th Ave

2011-03-03 Thread Andy Ashley
Hi, Does anyone know if it is possible to get a cross connect from Telx (room 524) to Level 3 (room 304) at 111 8th Ave? Neither Telx or L3 can do this without serious complication and prohibitive cost. (contact me off list please) Thanks. Regards, Andy Ashley. -- This message has been sc

Interesting google redirects.

2011-03-03 Thread Wil Schultz
Has anyone else had complaints that www.google.com is occasionally redirecting (http 302) to www.google.com.hk this morning? -wil

Anyone has a contact with IP clue at VerizonBusiness?

2011-03-03 Thread Alex Yuriev
I know it may be a stretch but is there a remote possibility that someone knows anyone inside Verizon Business who has an ounce of clue about IPv4 address allocation and routing? It seems the panic over IPv4 scarcity is resulting in the most peculiar ideas bubbling up in the IP provisioning side

Re: Ranges announced by Level3 without permitions.

2011-03-03 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Brandon Ross wrote: >> IPs are announced by Level3... I respect this company but looks like >> Level3 is scammed and currently announce without necessary permissions. > > Again, do you believe these networks are hijacked?  If they are in Hmm - so who should announc

Re: Ranges announced by Level3 without permitions.

2011-03-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Brandon Ross wrote: > On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Alfa Telecom wrote: > >> On 03/03/2011 03:25 PM, Brandon Ross wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Alfa Telecom wrote: >>> Both ranges are from RIPE region and couldn't be announced from ARIN ASN at all. netblocks i

Re: Ranges announced by Level3 without permitions.

2011-03-03 Thread Brandon Ross
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Alfa Telecom wrote: On 03/03/2011 03:25 PM, Brandon Ross wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Alfa Telecom wrote: Both ranges are from RIPE region and couldn't be announced from ARIN ASN at all. Your premise is incorrect. Any block from any RIR can be announced by any ASN. 1) Al

Re: Ranges announced by Level3 without permitions.

2011-03-03 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Mar 3, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Alfa Telecom wrote: > On 03/03/2011 03:25 PM, Brandon Ross wrote: >> On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Alfa Telecom wrote: >> >>> Both ranges are from RIPE region and couldn't be announced from ARIN ASN at >>> all. >> >> Your premise is incorrect. Any block from any RIR can be ann

Re: Ranges announced by Level3 without permitions.

2011-03-03 Thread Alfa Telecom
On 03/03/2011 03:25 PM, Brandon Ross wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Alfa Telecom wrote: Both ranges are from RIPE region and couldn't be announced from ARIN ASN at all. Your premise is incorrect. Any block from any RIR can be announced by any ASN. 1) All routing data must be present at the RIPE

Re: Ranges announced by Level3 without permitions.

2011-03-03 Thread Brandon Ross
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Alfa Telecom wrote: Both ranges are from RIPE region and couldn't be announced from ARIN ASN at all. Your premise is incorrect. Any block from any RIR can be announced by any ASN. We're sponsored LIR for both companies, I sent several emails to Level3 noc, made several

download speed very fast.

2011-03-03 Thread Deric Kwok
Hi all Do you know about sppedboost? Why it can suddenly burst to higher transfer rate from first 10M Can you share what equipment behinds to make it work? eg: cisco, juniper? Thank you so much

Re: [BEWARE] David J. Moore

2011-03-03 Thread Leon Kaiser
This is the man who poisoned DroneBL. He is a bad man. Keep your children safe. > http://raged.tittybang.org/ > > Leon > > Leon Kaiser - Head of GNAA Public Relations - > litera...@gnaa.eu || litera...@goatse.fr >http:/

[BEWARE] David J. Moore

2011-03-03 Thread Leon Kaiser
This is the man who poisoned DroneBL. He is a bad man. Keep your children safe. http://raged.tittybang.org/ Leon Leon Kaiser - Head of GNAA Public Relations - litera...@gnaa.eu || litera...@goatse.fr http://gnaa.eu || htt

Re: Postfix spam

2011-03-03 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Wed Mar 2 02:53:14 > 2011 > Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:46:03 +0200 > From: Peter Rudasingwa > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Postfix spam > > Hello, > > I am being attacked by a lot of spams on my postfix box. What is the best > way to blo

Re: [v6z] 39.0.0.0/8 on table already ?

2011-03-03 Thread Scott Howard
39/8 was assigned to APNIC in January, and realistically should have been removed from any bogon lists at that time. At this stage it appears they are still doing "Resource Quality Assessment" on it and haven't actually carried out any assignments, but that in itself is enough of a reason to make

Re: Ranges announced by Level3 without permitions.

2011-03-03 Thread Network Department
Hi! 1) RIPE NCC policy requires all routes must be present at the RIPE DB and RIPE IPs could be officially announced outside RIPE Region. 2) Resources owners don't know anything about these routes.. so it means that ranges were announces without permission by third party company. On Thu, Mar 3,

39.0.0.0/8 on table already ?

2011-03-03 Thread Danny Pinto
Hi , I saw 39.0.0.0/8 from AS273 on global table till last week .Was it a genuine advertisement or some tests ongoing with 39.0.0.0/8 or any other previously reserved spaces . I am updating my bogons lists and want to know any experiments happening with previous reserved spaces. Thanks, Dan