RE: HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care?

2011-04-01 Thread John van Oppen
Why does it matter what his position is? Sounds like they had a forged LOA from the customer and that they fixed the issue when they found out about it. I am not sure you can ask too much more from a network operator, the best thing we can hope for are companies that will cancel customers

Re: HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care?

2011-04-01 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message AF24AE2D4A4D334FB9B667985E2AE763997FE7@mail1-sea.office.spectrumnet .us, John van Oppen jvanop...@spectrumnet.us wrote: Why does it matter what his position is? Well, if he was, you know, just the janitor or something, then I think that we could all safely assume that his opinions

Re: HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care?

2011-04-01 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 01:36:55AM -0400, Atticus wrote: Maybe, if you didn't act like a flaming douchebag, and were polite to people, they would be more interested in helping you out. And were it ten or fifteen years ago, I might agree with you. But it's not. By now, everyone knows, or darn

v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Sachs, Marcus Hans (Marc)
I was wondering which April 1st this would happen on. Now I know. So if a v6 carrier swallows a v4 datagram does that count as packet loss or tunneling? http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc6214/ Marc

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Jeff Walter
On 4/1/2011 5:41 AM, Sachs, Marcus Hans (Marc) wrote: I was wondering which April 1st this would happen on. Now I know. So if a v6 carrier swallows a v4 datagram does that count as packet loss or tunneling? http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc6214/ Depending on whether or not the packet

Re: HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care?

2011-04-01 Thread C. Jon Larsen
So the hell with his prose: focus on the matter at hand. Let's find out what happened here and how, who's responsible, and what it'll take to stop them from doing it again and again. Well put. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the Richweb.com outgoing

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Scott Morris
Mmm... Good question. Would it actually come back OUT in a recognizable (de-encapsulated) manner? I'll vote with packet loss, 'cause tunneling seems pretty gross. ;) Scott On 4/1/11 2:41 PM, Sachs, Marcus Hans (Marc) wrote: I was wondering which April 1st this would happen on. Now I

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread GP Wooden
I wonder on the carrier would survive a DoS attack ... - Reply message - From: Scott Morris s...@emanon.com Date: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:01 am Subject: v6 Avian Carriers? To: nanog@nanog.org Mmm... Good question. Would it actually come back OUT in a recognizable (de-encapsulated) manner?

Re: Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 09:30:45 CDT, =?utf-8?B?R1AgV29vZGVu?= said: wonder on the carrier would survive a DoS attack ... RFC1149 says: Avian carriers can provide high delay, low throughput, and low altitude service. The connection topology is limited to a single point-to-point path for

RE: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-01 Thread George Bonser
From: Joao C. Mendes Ogawa Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:14 PM Subject: Fwd: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth FYI --Jonny Ogawa - Forwarded message from Stephen H. Inden - Dang, I was hoping to see an RFC on Bufferbloat in Avian Carriers and how tail-drop is

Re: Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Brandon Ross
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, GP Wooden wrote: I wonder on the carrier would survive a DoS attack ... I'm not sure about that, but we know that, if a Sullenberger unit has been installed, a large aircraft can survive a DoS attack perpetrated by the avian carrier. -- Brandon Ross

HIJACKED: 159.223.0.0/16 -- WTF? Does anybody care?

2011-04-01 Thread Atticus
Please note, I'm not arguing against fixing the problem. I just think we should show each other some professional respect, and use some manners.

Re: Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Dorn Hetzel
I was thinking today would be a good day to write an RFC for fractional DHCP where end-users can get issued say 1/64 of an v4 IP, say 155.229.10.20:1024-2047. Other users on the same DSLAM, etc behind the carrier NAT would have other shares of the same public IP. :) On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at

Re: Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Dorn Hetzel wrote: I was thinking today would be a good day to write an RFC for fractional DHCP where end-users can get issued say 1/64 of an v4 IP, say 155.229.10.20:1024-2047. Other users on the same DSLAM, etc behind the carrier NAT would have other shares of the same

Re: Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Dorn Hetzel
I'm thinking both TCP and UDP, and for ICMP don't NAT's use the sequence number field to keep them separate ? On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.orgwrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Dorn Hetzel wrote: I was thinking today would be a good day to write an RFC for

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Andy Davidson
On 1 Apr 2011, at 17:47, Dorn Hetzel wrote: I was thinking today would be a good day to write an RFC for fractional DHCP where end-users can get issued say 1/64 of an v4 IP, say 155.229.10.20:1024-2047. Other users on the same DSLAM, etc behind the carrier NAT would have other shares of

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Apr 1, 2011, at 8:41 11AM, Sachs, Marcus Hans (Marc) wrote: I was wondering which April 1st this would happen on. Now I know. So if a v6 carrier swallows a v4 datagram does that count as packet loss or tunneling? http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc6214/ I was disappointed in this

WiMAX Multihost CPE/MS MTU enforcement

2011-04-01 Thread Eric Morin
Hi Anyone out there deploying multihost CPE/MS with 16e WiMAX? Do your CPEs enforce a specific MTU (1400) for upstream traffic? I would like to hear from anyone (offline) that is dealing with MTU challenges with mulithost 16e deployments. Thanks! Eric Morin

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Antonio Querubin
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Steven Bellovin wrote: I was disappointed in this RFC -- Section 3.1 didn't include the proper discussion of the difference between African and European avian carriers, and we know what happens if that question is asked at the wrong time. That discussion would be out of

Weekly Routing Table Report

2011-04-01 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Dave Edelman
I believe that the Sullenberger unit effected the loss of the avian carriers requiring regeneration and retransmission. Dave Edelman On Apr 1, 2011, at 12:19, Brandon Ross br...@pobox.com wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, GP Wooden wrote: I wonder on the carrier would survive a DoS attack ...

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Cutler James R
On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: I'm thinking both TCP and UDP, and for ICMP don't NAT's use the sequence number field to keep them separate ? SNIP/ In my experience, the Avian Carriers usually eat the NATs. James R. Cutler james.cut...@consultant.com

Re: Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Richard Barnes
Be careful what you wish for: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ymbk-aplusp On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Dorn Hetzel d...@hetzel.org wrote: I was thinking today would be a good day to write an RFC for fractional DHCP where end-users can get issued say 1/64 of an v4 IP, say

BGP Update Report

2011-04-01 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 24-Mar-11 -to- 31-Mar-11 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS19743 34999 1.7%4999.9 -- 2 - AS982926736 1.3% 26.6 -- BSNL-NIB

The Cidr Report

2011-04-01 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Apr 1 21:12:20 2011 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

Embratel or GVT contact

2011-04-01 Thread Mark Wall
Is there anyone from GVT or Embratel with a clue willing to help me with a BGP route issue we are seeing? Thanks

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Owen DeLong
It's also especially sensitive to icing induced packet loss. Owen On Apr 1, 2011, at 7:30 AM, GP Wooden wrote: I wonder on the carrier would survive a DoS attack ... - Reply message - From: Scott Morris s...@emanon.com Date: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 9:01 am Subject: v6 Avian Carriers?

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
I thought iced-over fiber was a little bit like muffler-bearings. Great excuse if they buy it. Mike On 4/1/11 6:07 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: It's also especially sensitive to icing induced packet loss. Owen On Apr 1, 2011, at 7:30 AM, GP Wooden wrote: I wonder on the carrier

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Owen DeLong
On Apr 1, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Brandon Ross wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, GP Wooden wrote: I wonder on the carrier would survive a DoS attack ... I'm not sure about that, but we know that, if a Sullenberger unit has been installed, a large aircraft can survive a DoS attack perpetrated by the

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Owen DeLong
On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:45 AM, Steven Bellovin wrote: On Apr 1, 2011, at 8:41 11AM, Sachs, Marcus Hans (Marc) wrote: I was wondering which April 1st this would happen on. Now I know. So if a v6 carrier swallows a v4 datagram does that count as packet loss or tunneling?

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Chad Dailey
Swallows have MTU issues. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:45 AM, Steven Bellovin wrote: On Apr 1, 2011, at 8:41 11AM, Sachs, Marcus Hans (Marc) wrote: I was wondering which April 1st this would happen on. Now I know. So if a

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Owen DeLong
Which? African or European Swallows? (Watches Chad fly over the cliff edge) ;-) Owen On Apr 1, 2011, at 6:34 PM, Chad Dailey wrote: Swallows have MTU issues. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:45 AM, Steven Bellovin wrote: On

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Brandon Ross
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Owen DeLong wrote: Not true. The occupants of the aircraft survived. The aircraft did not. Hm, in my recollection the payload made it to the destination. Perhaps the route was a bit unexpected though. -- Brandon Ross AIM:

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Apr 1, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: Which? African or European Swallows? (Watches Chad fly over the cliff edge) ;-) So the RFC needed more text in it's Security Considerations section, too... Owen On Apr 1, 2011, at 6:34 PM, Chad Dailey wrote:

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-01 Thread Alexander Maassen
wil, maybe after all this time you got the router, it gained 7lbs of all the dust in it ? Op 1-4-2011 3:26, Wil Schultz schreef: On Mar 31, 2011, at 6:14 PM, Joao C. Mendes Ogawa jonny.og...@gmail.com wrote: FYI --Jonny Ogawa - Forwarded message from Stephen H. Inden - From:

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Robert Bonomi
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:34:52 -0500 Subject: Re: v6 Avian Carriers? From: Chad Dailey na...@thedaileyplanet.com Swallows have MTU issues. No swallows? Oh, spit.

Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth

2011-04-01 Thread Robert Bonomi
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 04:18:00 +0200 From: Alexander Maassen outsi...@scarynet.org Subject: Re: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Effects on the Earth wil, maybe after all this time you got the router, it gained 7lbs of all the dust in it ? Consider what happens if the carrier encounters a route

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Scott Morris
Isn't that what the uvula is for? Oh... never mind wrong swallow. ;) On 4/2/11 3:34 AM, Chad Dailey wrote: Swallows have MTU issues. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:45 AM, Steven Bellovin wrote: On Apr 1, 2011, at 8:41

Re: v6 Avian Carriers?

2011-04-01 Thread Scott Morris
Random re-encapsulation. Now there's an interesting protocol! On 4/2/11 3:53 AM, Brandon Ross wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Owen DeLong wrote: Not true. The occupants of the aircraft survived. The aircraft did not. Hm, in my recollection the payload made it to the

comcast dns admin, help needed

2011-04-01 Thread matthew zeier
Trying to track down someone at Comcast who maintains DNS. I'm having a number of Comcast users who are unable to resolve mozilla.org hosts. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=647254 Tried using other channels to find contacts but am running dry. Email offline or comment in that