You get their filtering power for free and don't have to deal with the
hardware, if you don't particularly like it.
http://www.barracudacentral.org/
That's not completely true; the Barracuda appliance uses both
block-lists and content-based filtering. The block-list is free for
anyone who
I wonder if there's a filter for top-postings in list that have a
bottom-posting rule?
This thread is very operationally interesting to me but I've lost the
plot :(
http://www.nanog.org/mailinglist/listfaqs/generalfaq.php?qt=convent
refers.
PS: I know that some devices actually prevent
gord wrote:
I wonder if there's a filter for top-postings in list that have a
bottom-posting rule?
This thread is very operationally interesting to me but I've lost the
plot :(
http://www.nanog.org/mailinglist/listfaqs/generalfaq.php?qt=convent
refers.
PS: I know that some devices actually
On 2011/04/09 11:38 AM, Phil Regnauld wrote:
Tim Chown (tjc) writes:
I don't know quite how high a performance you need. If it's just email
spam/viruses you are concerned with, you can run MailScanner for free,
see http://www.mailscanner.info. It's been around for 10 years now and
used by a
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Ray Corbin wrote:
rantI had experience with Barracuda as outbound anti-spam filters for
a very large hosting provider and I won't use Barracuda again. Some of
their methods for blocking spam are a tad extreme. At one point they
decided to block both yahoo.com and
I don't think they had blocked mail coming/going from yahoo.com/google.com
which would have been more careless to their subscribers (especially when our
outbound units were processing a few million emails a day from our customers).
They blocked the domains so you couldn't have a link to
On 9, Apr, 2011, at 16:00 , Owen DeLong wrote:
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 9, 2011, at 4:31 AM, Job Snijders j...@instituut.net wrote:
Dear All,
On 8 Apr 2011, at 19:34, Lori Jakab wrote:
On 04/08/2011 06:39 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
LISP can also be a good option. Comes with
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 12:10 +0200, Gabriel Marais wrote:
I have 6 MailScanner servers in production running with Postfix, not
had any 'real' issues in the last few years.
We have just as many -- and yes, it's great.
The only thing I'd prefer would be Exim over Postfix, but Mailscanner
does
We have just as many -- and yes, it's great.
The only thing I'd prefer would be Exim over Postfix, but Mailscanner
does make things very pleasant to use.
+1 for Exim, although development stalled for a while when Philip Hazel
retired its now back on track.
Also not happy with Barracuda,
On Apr 11, 2011, at 5:12 AM, Luigi Iannone wrote:
On 9, Apr, 2011, at 16:00 , Owen DeLong wrote:
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 9, 2011, at 4:31 AM, Job Snijders j...@instituut.net wrote:
Dear All,
On 8 Apr 2011, at 19:34, Lori Jakab wrote:
On 04/08/2011 06:39 PM, Owen DeLong
On 11, Apr, 2011, at 15:17 , Owen DeLong wrote:
[snip]
Doing IPv4 LISP on any kind of scale requires significant additional
prefixes which at this time doesn't seem so practical to me.
This is not accurate IMO. To inject prefixes in the BGP is needed only to
make non-LISP sites talk to
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Tom Hill wrote:
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 12:10 +0200, Gabriel Marais wrote:
I have 6 MailScanner servers in production running with Postfix, not
had any 'real' issues in the last few years.
We have just as many -- and yes, it's great.
The only thing I'd prefer would be
On Apr 11, 2011, at 6:30 AM, Luigi Iannone wrote:
On 11, Apr, 2011, at 15:17 , Owen DeLong wrote:
[snip]
Doing IPv4 LISP on any kind of scale requires significant additional
prefixes which at this time doesn't seem so practical to me.
This is not accurate IMO. To inject prefixes in
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2011-04-11/level-3-agrees-to-acquire-global-crossing-in-deal-valued-at-1-9-billion.html
The deal will combine two unprofitable companies with total revenue of
$6.26 billion as of last year, and cut annualized capital spending by
about $40 million, according to
- Original Message -
From: William Allen Simpson william.allen.simp...@gmail.com
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2011-04-11/level-3-agrees-to-acquire-global-crossing-in-deal-valued-at-1-9-billion.html
The deal will combine two unprofitable companies with total revenue of
$6.26
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: William Allen Simpson william.allen.simp...@gmail.com
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2011-04-11/level-3-agrees-to-acquire-global-crossing-in-deal-valued-at-1-9-billion.html
- Original Message -
From: Dorn Hetzel d...@hetzel.org
Well, maybe they're just admitting it will slow the rate at which
prices go down :)
Cause L3 and GBLX are Too Big To Fail, right?
Furrfu.
Cheers,
-- jra
Not an appliance but a really amazing job at stopping spam, www.messagelabs.com
(purchased by Symantec). We went from messagelabs service to barracuda
appliance and the difference is astronomical, whereas before i might get one or
two spams a day using MessageLabs now with the barracuda I get
I find it amusing that the article says - The deal will combine two
unprofitable companies
So I guess the thinking is that two negatives make a positive?
-Mike
-Original Message-
From: Dorn Hetzel [mailto:d...@hetzel.org]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:26 AM
To: Jay Ashworth
On 4/11/11 10:41 AM, Mike Walter wrote:
I find it amusing that the article says - The deal will combine two unprofitable
companies
So I guess the thinking is that two negatives make a positive?
-Mike
Since they will be saving a whole $40mm annually, profitability is
pretty much
combining the companies will allow them to maximize efficeinecies by the
elimination
of overlapping functions, hopefully paving the way to profitability.
Job cuts here we come
Mike
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Mike Walter mwal...@3z.net wrote:
I find it amusing that the article
All,
One of our ISP is planning to do a LISP deployment. (1) Does anyone know if
Sprint uses LISP? (2) Does anyone know of any good guides/documentation of LISP?
Thank you,
Christina Klam
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 02:41:18PM +, Mike Walter wrote:
I find it amusing that the article says - The deal will combine two
unprofitable companies
So I guess the thinking is that two negatives make a positive?
They may lose on every subscriber, but now they'll make it up in
http://www.lisp4.net/
Mike
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Christina Klam ck...@ias.edu wrote:
All,
One of our ISP is planning to do a LISP deployment. (1) Does anyone know
if Sprint uses LISP? (2) Does anyone know of any good guides/documentation
of LISP?
Thank you,
Christina Klam
Hi,
I think that the best repository of documentation is lisp4.net.
I would also have a look to
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jakab-lisp-deployment/
Luigi
On 11, Apr, 2011, at 16:49 , Christina Klam wrote:
All,
One of our ISP is planning to do a LISP deployment. (1) Does anyone
Thank you all.
On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Luigi Iannone wrote:
Hi,
I think that the best repository of documentation is lisp4.net.
I would also have a look to
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jakab-lisp-deployment/
Luigi
On 11, Apr, 2011, at 16:49 , Christina Klam wrote:
From: Michael Painter tvhaw...@shaka.com
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 23:11:44 -1000
gord wrote:
I wonder if there's a filter for top-postings in list that have a
bottom-posting rule?
This thread is very operationally interesting to me but I've lost the
plot :(
On Apr 11, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Luigi Iannone wrote:
On 11, Apr, 2011, at 15:37 , Owen DeLong wrote:
On Apr 11, 2011, at 6:30 AM, Luigi Iannone wrote:
On 11, Apr, 2011, at 15:17 , Owen DeLong wrote:
[snip]
Doing IPv4 LISP on any kind of scale requires significant additional
Dear Christina,
On 11 Apr 2011, at 16:49, Christina Klam wrote:
One of our ISP is planning to do a LISP deployment. (1) Does anyone know if
Sprint uses LISP? (2) Does anyone know of any good guides/documentation of
LISP?
I cannot answer question 1.
But I do work for an ISP that's
Well, this will be the third time that Level3 has purchased my primary
upstream provider. Maybe this will be different than with Genuity and
Wiltel, but Level3 needs to either stop using the word legacy or
educate their employees so they know that legacy is good and not bad.
-mark
Let me see if I have that straight.
We're *admitting* in public that the result will be to make prices go
up for
customers? Wow... Justice is going to have a field day with that.
Cheers,
-- jra
I don't think it means so much that prices will go up, just that it will slow
the decline.
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact I keep thinking I just about
understand LISP and then get told
that my understanding is incorrect (repeatedly).
I agree it is not simple.
At a conceptual level, we can think of
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, David Coulson wrote:
Wasn't there a telco CEO who would blow that much in strip clubs? Savvis
springs to mind, but I don't remember.
I seem to recall several dot-com-era CxOs spending very lavishly on
themselves, or getting their employers to give them large 'loans' that
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:55:05AM -0700, George Bonser wrote:
Let me see if I have that straight.
We're *admitting* in public that the result will be to make prices go
up for
customers? Wow... Justice is going to have a field day with that.
Cheers,
-- jra
I don't think it
On 4/11/11 12:24 PM, Justin M. Streiner wrote:
I seem to recall several dot-com-era CxOs spending very lavishly on
themselves, or getting their employers to give them large 'loans' that
were never paid back. Ken Lay, Jeff Skilling, Bernie Ebbers, Gary
Winnick, Joe Nacchio, etc...
This is
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Jeff Wheeler j...@inconcepts.biz wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact I keep thinking I just about
understand LISP and then get told
that my understanding is incorrect
On Apr 11, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact I keep thinking I just about
understand LISP and then get told
that my understanding is incorrect (repeatedly).
I agree it
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Kevin Oberman ober...@es.net wrote:
Of late I have started to get responses from people (not even the person
who top-posted) saying that I should f*** off and that they would post
however they wanted. Very hostile and even threatening.
My wife complained once
It's really impressive how insular a bunch of old timers can be.
Coming up next: rants about HTML mail!
R's,
John
In article BANLkTi=v11tghfgmxstjxscjtgpb6ct...@mail.gmail.com you write:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Kevin Oberman ober...@es.net wrote:
Of late I have started to get
-to: rout...@getjive.com
mnt-nfy:rout...@getjive.com
auth: MD5-PW 2a930d2ac634aa45e4224e575d2a1bdb
mnt-by: MAINT-JIVE
changed:rout...@getjive.com 20110411
source: ALTDB
Thanks,
Bret
- Original Message -
From: harbor235 harbor...@gmail.com
http://www.lisp4.net/
So, for The Rest Of Ustm, LISP is an attempt to reduce the impact of PI
space on router tables in the DFZ?
WADR, to hell with them; they have a *lot* more money than I do. :-)
Cheers,
-- jra
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Oberman ober...@es.net
Subject: Re: Top-posting
Of late I have started to get responses from people (not even the person
who top-posted) saying that I should f*** off and that they would post
however they wanted. Very hostile and even threatening.
- Original Message -
From: John Levine jo...@iecc.com
It's really impressive how insular a bunch of old timers can be.
Coming up next: rants about HTML mail!
I never thought I'd say this about John, but PDFTT, folks. :-)
Cheers,
-- jra
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20336-internet-probe-can-track-you-down-to-within-690-metres.html
The new method zooms in through three stages to locate a target
computer. The first stage measures the time it takes to send a data
packet to the target and converts it into a distance – a
On Apr 11, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Scott Morris wrote:
Aren't they already confused enough when any time I use my EVDO or 3G
Tether that someone believes I've been magically transported to New
Jersey or wherever the handoff is? ;)
Understand the logic behind it, but you probably
Don't forget the use for 911 type services.
On 4/12/11 8:10 , Jeroen van Aart jer...@mompl.net wrote:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20336-internet-probe-can-track-you-d
own-to-within-690-metres.html
The new method zooms in through three stages to locate a target
computer. The first stage
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
I do tend to think that any technology sufficiently confusing that I cannot
understand it well after reasonable effort is of questionable value
for wide deployment.
The secret is to ignore all the crazy acronyms and boil it
Is there a limit of 8 characters for the CRYPT-PW?
-Bret
TR Shaw wrote:
Get a linux box or whatever and roll your own. ASSP, DSPAM, Spamassin, or other
open source
ASSP + exim, on Debian, for sure.
BUT, ASSP as of now does not support IPv6 so I am not able to hang my
spamfilter on an IPv6 address. :-( Contacting the maintainers is met
with utter
Way too many players ... means that the telecom marketplace is good for the
consumer, with competition keeping prices low. Many network users feel that
prices are still way too high, particularly for high speed circuits and dark
fiber, areas in which Level 3 and Global Crossing have
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Marshall Eubanks t...@americafree.tv wrote:
...
It would also be easy to institute something like the old GPS selective
availability, with a software tunnel randomly adding a variable
delay (say, varying by up to 50 msec every 100 seconds).
Regards
Marshall
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 03:49:43PM -0700, Holmes,David A wrote:
Way too many players ... means that the telecom marketplace is good
for the consumer, with competition keeping prices low. Many network
users feel that prices are still way too high, particularly for high
speed circuits and
Just wanted to thank everyone who replied to my question on the list and
off-list.
Cheers,
Jeff
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Paul W. Roach III p...@isaroach.comwrote:
The downside of anycast for TCP services require state to be replicated in
realtime across all app servers to prevent
If I were a large tier-2 with SFI to one, but not both, of Level3 and
GBLX, I would see this acquisition as an opportunity to squeeze
peering out of the other network, or eventual combination of both, in
trade for not stirring the pot with regulators. Perhaps AS3356 will
carry AS6939 IPv6 routes
FYI
Just weeks before switching on a massive, super-efficient data center in
rural Oregon, Facebook is giving away the designs and specifications to the
whole thing online. In doing so, the company is breaking a long-established
unwritten rule for Web companies: don't share the secrets of your
- Original Message -
From: Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net
--As of April 11, 2011 3:11:15 PM -0400, Jay Ashworth is alleged to
have said:
Nope; I really said it. :-)
Standard threaded (IE: not top-posted) replies have been the standard for
technical mailing lists on the net since I
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On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:02 AM, harbor235 wrote:
http://www.lisp4.net/
This sounds a lot like LNP in the telco world. Is the goal here to make IP's
portable ? Or is this a viable way to access IPv6
interleaved posting is considered harmful.
/bill
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:05:51PM -0400, Jay Ashworth wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net
--As of April 11, 2011 3:11:15 PM -0400, Jay Ashworth is alleged to
have said:
Nope; I really said it. :-)
Yep! It sure did. Phew I don't need to re-submit.
Thanks guys! I received many responses.
-Bret
On Apr 11, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Andrew Jones wrote:
My understanding is that the implementation of the DES algorithm used
ignores any characters after the first 8, so basically yes.
-Jonesy
On
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:27:44 EDT, Jay Ashworth said:
- Original Message -
From: Dorn Hetzel d...@hetzel.org
Well, maybe they're just admitting it will slow the rate at which
prices go down :)
Cause L3 and GBLX are Too Big To Fail, right?
Yes, but the *real* question is - will
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 19:39 -0400, Daniel Staal wrote:
Of late I have started to get responses from people (not even the
person
who top-posted) saying that I should f*** off and that they would
post
however they wanted. Very hostile and even threatening.
Too many Outlook users. With
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:15:33 -, John Levine said:
It's really impressive how insular a bunch of old timers can be.
Coming up next: rants about HTML mail!
Vern Schryver once pointed out that a multipart/alternative with a
text/plain and text/html was *always* incorrect - if the semantic
Hi All,
Is there by any chance a Yahoo! Mail Technical Contact is subscribed in
this mailing list? Please reply directly to my email.
Thank you very much.
-nathan
On 4/11/2011 21:22, Richard Golodner wrote:
Too many Outlook users. With just about any other email client it is
very easy to bottom post.
To those who wish to post as they want demonstrates a certain something
about being a professional and an additional personality component
On Apr 11, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Bryan Fields br...@bryanfields.net wrote:
On 4/11/2011 21:22, Richard Golodner wrote:
Too many Outlook users. With just about any other email client it is
very easy to bottom post.
To those who wish to post as they want demonstrates a certain something
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:58:11 EDT, Bryan Fields said:
The issue with outlook/exchange is there is no way to use another client with
it. I cannot even force plain text to the internet, the server send it as
quoted printable even if I strip all formatting.
If the entire body part is expressible
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Nathanael C. Cariaga
nccari...@stluke.com.ph wrote:
Hi All,
It seems that we're having some problems receiving emails from selected
Yahoo! Mail Accounts. I noticed that there is a commonality between the
accounts that fails when sending an email to our domain
On 4/11/11 10:47 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:
mpetach@opstools1:~ telnet 219.90.94.56 25
Trying 219.90.94.56...
Connected to static-host-219-90-94-56.tri.ph.
Escape character is '^]'.
ehlo yahoo.com
554 SMTP synchronization error
Connection closed by foreign host.
mpetach@opstools1:~
I imagine
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Brielle Bruns br...@2mbit.com wrote:
On 4/11/11 10:47 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:
mpetach@opstools1:~ telnet 219.90.94.56 25
Trying 219.90.94.56...
Connected to static-host-219-90-94-56.tri.ph.
Escape character is '^]'.
ehlo yahoo.com
554 SMTP synchronization
Thanks anyway. I just find this issue intriguing since not all Yahoo
mail accounts are affected. In addition, incoming mails from other
domain doesn't seem to be affected. That is why I want to check if it
is a network issue :)
-nathan
On 4/12/2011 1:17 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:
On Mon,
I sincerely
On Apr 11, 2011, at 5:12 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
interleaved posting is considered harmful.
Disagree.
Owen
/bill
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:05:51PM -0400, Jay Ashworth wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net
--As of
On Apr 11, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
On 4/11/2011 21:22, Richard Golodner wrote:
Too many Outlook users. With just about any other email client it is
very easy to bottom post.
To those who wish to post as they want demonstrates a certain something
about being a
On Apr 12, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
I have used Evolution and IMAP with exchange servers in the past, so, I'm not
convinced this is an entirely accurate statement.
And in fact, I'm posting this message in plain-text via the OSX Mail.app
connected via native Exchange protocols
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