Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Jaidev Sridhar
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 21:22, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: It provides a handy space to comment at the bottom. Perhaps people here would like to let M$ know that it would be preferable to provide pointers to real workable IPv6 connectivity solutions rather than merely hotwire the system

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:30 PM, Jaidev Sridhar wrote: On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 21:22, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: It provides a handy space to comment at the bottom. Perhaps people here would like to let M$ know that it would be preferable to provide pointers to real workable IPv6

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 3, 2011, at 1:18 AM, goe...@anime.net wrote: On Fri, 3 Jun 2011, Owen DeLong wrote: I'm not missing the point, just suggesting that it would be better if Micr0$0ft were part of the solution instead of just hotwiring past the problem. and your solution is what? -Dan As I said

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Tim Chown
On 3 Jun 2011, at 10:13, Owen DeLong wrote: As I said before, provide pointers to resources where users can follow up on actually resolving the issues. Their ISP, their IT department, web pages with additional information on how to diagnose the problem, etc. I would guess a typical user

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Tim Chown
On 3 Jun 2011, at 01:08, andrew.wallace wrote: World anything day is a sure-shot bet win at an anti-climax, and an industry failure and waste of investment and publicity campaign. The day passing without any significant userland issues would make it a success. It's a good opportunity to

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Jared Mauch
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 01:18:08AM -0700, goe...@anime.net wrote: On Fri, 3 Jun 2011, Owen DeLong wrote: I'm not missing the point, just suggesting that it would be better if Micr0$0ft were part of the solution instead of just hotwiring past the problem. and your solution is what?

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread fredrik danerklint
The problem is not all on Microsoft at this case. For example; I've bought a ZyXEL P-2612HNU-F1(which has 802.11n Wireless ADSL 2+ 4-port gateway 2 SIP 2 USB 3G Backup) in december 2010. It basiclly has everything in it. How do I as a customer do to have a working IPv6 setup on this modem since

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jun 3, 2011, at 8:27 AM, fredrik danerklint wrote: The problem is not all on Microsoft at this case. For example; I've bought a ZyXEL P-2612HNU-F1(which has 802.11n Wireless ADSL 2+ 4-port gateway 2 SIP 2 USB 3G Backup) in december 2010. It basiclly has everything in it. You made the

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On Jun 3, 2011, at 5:27 AM, fredrik danerklint wrote: The problem is not all on Microsoft at this case. For example; I've bought a ZyXEL P-2612HNU-F1(which has 802.11n Wireless ADSL 2+ 4-port gateway 2 SIP 2 USB 3G Backup) in december 2010. It basiclly has everything in it. How do I

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 08:42:01 EDT, Jared Mauch said: On Jun 3, 2011, at 8:27 AM, fredrik danerklint wrote: The problem is not all on Microsoft at this case. For example; I've bought a ZyXEL P-2612HNU-F1(which has 802.11n Wireless ADSL 2+ 4-port gateway 2 SIP 2 USB 3G Backup) in december

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Aftab Siddiqui
Do they have any good reason to block proto 41? Generic Homeusers never asked for IPv4 so they won't ask for IPv6. The time will change many things from CPE to perspective as well. I'm not ready to answer million calls on World IPv6 only week :) Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui On Fri, Jun 3, 2011

Re: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol (Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day)

2011-06-03 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2011-Jun-03 16:13, Cameron Byrne wrote: On Jun 3, 2011 6:59 AM, Tim Chown t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote: On 3 Jun 2011, at 14:38, Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org wrote: IPv6 only was the original plan of World IPv6 Day It was? No. I think there is confusion with ipv6 hour that happens at

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 3, 2011, at 5:27 AM, fredrik danerklint wrote: The problem is not all on Microsoft at this case. For example; I've bought a ZyXEL P-2612HNU-F1(which has 802.11n Wireless ADSL 2+ 4-port gateway 2 SIP 2 USB 3G Backup) in december 2010. It basiclly has everything in it. OK...

RE: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Frank Bulk
As Owen is suggesting, if would have been helpful if Microsoft's Network troubleshooting wizard in Windows Vista and 7 had an inkling about IPv6 and would check IPv6 connectivity in the same way it checks IPv6 connectivity, and work through things link 6to4 issues. Frank -Original

RE: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Frank Bulk
Have a ZyXEL VSG1432 right behind me where the IPv6 works pretty good (http://www.getipv6.info/index.php/Broadband_CPE#DSL). All the DSL modem vendors could stand improving their GUI. Frank -Original Message- From: fredrik danerklint [mailto:fredan-na...@fredan.se] Sent: Friday, June

Re: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol (Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day)

2011-06-03 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 3, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Jeroen Massar wrote: On 2011-Jun-03 16:13, Cameron Byrne wrote: On Jun 3, 2011 6:59 AM, Tim Chown t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote: On 3 Jun 2011, at 14:38, Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org wrote: IPv6 only was the original plan of World IPv6 Day It was? No. I

[NANOG-announce] updated NANOG 52 registration and hotel information

2011-06-03 Thread Steven Feldman
Two items for those of you still working on your NANOG 52 travel arrangements: - Today is the cutoff for the standard registration fee. After today the fee increases by $75. - The Sheraton is completely sold out for the night of Tuesday, June 14. We have not been able to secure additional room

Weekly Routing Table Report

2011-06-03 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to

[NANOG-announce] additional hotel information for NANOG 52

2011-06-03 Thread Steven Feldman
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Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Franck Martin
http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics/ Something is happening... On 6/2/11 21:34 , Hank Nussbacher h...@efes.iucc.ac.il wrote: On Thu, 2 Jun 2011, Cameron Byrne wrote: In that case can anyone explain why the number of IPv4 *only* systems is increasing rather than decreasing:

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 21:31:57 -, Franck Martin said: http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics/ Something is happening... What's special about Sunday peaks and Friday lows on that graph? I think I asked that once before, with no firm conclusions. But there's a definite sawtooth there,

BGP Update Report

2011-06-03 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 26-May-11 -to- 02-Jun-11 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS982957552 3.9% 88.8 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone 2 - AS33475

The Cidr Report

2011-06-03 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jun 3 21:11:57 2011 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Scott Weeks
--- valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: What's special about Sunday peaks and Friday lows on that graph? I think I asked that once before, with no firm conclusions. But there's a definite sawtooth there, big enough that we probably want to understand it. -

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 15:20:22 PDT, Scott Weeks said: There're about 52 peaks in a year on the timeline... :-) Right. But why is Google seeing noticeably higher IPv6 loads on Sunday and lower loads on Friday? I'd buy a different traffic pattern for home/office, but then you'd expect Friday to be

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Tony Varriale
On 6/2/2011 7:08 PM, andrew.wallace wrote: Worldanything day is a sure-shot bet win at an anti-climax, and an industry failure and waste of investment and publicity campaign. Andrew I've had more customers ask and now willing to participate than ever before. Any better suggestions? Or,

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Tony McCrory
On 3 June 2011 23:24, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 15:20:22 PDT, Scott Weeks said: There're about 52 peaks in a year on the timeline...  :-) Right. But why is Google seeing noticeably higher IPv6 loads on Sunday and lower loads on Friday? I'd buy a different traffic

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Simon Lockhart
On Sat Jun 04, 2011 at 12:04:42AM +0100, Tony McCrory wrote: I wonder if there is a disproportionately large amount of IPv6 usage in the Middle East where a number of countries have their weekend on Friday and Saturday, with Sunday being the first day of their working week? UAE and Israel as

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 3, 2011, at 3:24 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 15:20:22 PDT, Scott Weeks said: There're about 52 peaks in a year on the timeline... :-) Right. But why is Google seeing noticeably higher IPv6 loads on Sunday and lower loads on Friday? I'd buy a different

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Robert Bonomi
From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Fri Jun 3 17:25:39 2011 To: sur...@mauigateway.com Subject: Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 18:24:42 -0400 Cc: nanog@nanog.org --==_Exmh_1307139882_2680P

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Antonio Querubin
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: What's special about Sunday peaks and Friday lows on that graph? I think I asked that once before, with no firm conclusions. But there's a definite sawtooth there, big enough that we probably want to understand it. It means that IPv6 geeks

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-03 Thread Martin Hotze
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:13:31 -0700 From: Owen DeLong o...@delong.com Subject: Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day To: fredrik danerklint fredan-na...@fredan.se Cc: nanog@nanog.org On Jun 3, 2011, at 5:27 AM, fredrik danerklint wrote: The problem is not all on Microsoft at