OT: Sign of the Coming Apocalypse

2011-06-15 Thread Jay Ashworth
(that's next winter, right?) I've just seen a TV ad for Duke Nukem Forever, in a Hulu airing of The Daily Show. Cheers, -- jr 'Finally??' a -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think

Re: OT: Sign of the Coming Apocalypse

2011-06-15 Thread Joshua William Klubi
finally after waiting for it 4ever Joshua On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: (that's next winter, right?) I've just seen a TV ad for Duke Nukem Forever, in a Hulu airing of The Daily Show. Cheers, -- jr 'Finally??' a -- Jay R. Ashworth

Re: ip 6 questions

2011-06-15 Thread Jima
On 06/12/2011 03:31 PM, Tom Hill wrote: On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 14:46 -0400, Deric Kwok wrote: We will apply ipv6 from ARIN and try to use it in hosting business 1/ Can we use it in our current AS which is using ipv4? If not. Do we have to apply new AS? No, you can route IPv6 IPv4 from the

Re: RE: So... is it time to do IPv6 day monthy yet?

2011-06-15 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jun 14, 2011 10:36 PM, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: I think this would be helpful. Agreed. You don't need anybody's permission, kick it off. The last v6day was an isoc effort, there can be a separate nanog effort or your own. Cb Cheers Ryan -Original

Re: The stupidity of trying to fix DHCPv6

2011-06-15 Thread Tony Finch
Ricky Beam jfb...@gmail.com wrote: And IPv6 has been designed (poorly, it would now appear) for huge LANs -- LANs are supposed to be /64, after all. Ethernet is not designed for huge LANs. If you want that you need to make significant changes - http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mas90/MOOSE/ Tony. --

Re: The stupidity of trying to fix DHCPv6

2011-06-15 Thread Jima
On 06/14/2011 03:25 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: I urge everyone in this thread to try a simple experiment. Configure an IPv6 segment in your lab. Make sure there is no IPv4 on it, not on the router, and that the IPv4 stack (to the extent possible) is disabled on the hosts. Now try to use one of

RE: OT: Sign of the Coming Apocalypse

2011-06-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
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Re: The stupidity of trying to fix DHCPv6

2011-06-15 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 15 jun 2011, at 16:52, Tony Finch wrote: Ethernet is not designed for huge LANs. If you want that you need to make significant changes - http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mas90/MOOSE/ Hm: Our object is to design a communication system which can grow smoothly to accommodate several buildings full

Re: The stupidity of trying to fix DHCPv6

2011-06-15 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:22:12AM -0500, Jima wrote: Oh, oops; you did touch upon this. You might want to let the people who've implemented RDNSS in software know that the IETF is working on it. I'm sure that'll be a relief. Maybe I'm missing something, but the last

Re: The stupidity of trying to fix DHCPv6

2011-06-15 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 15 jun 2011, at 18:39, Leo Bicknell wrote: Maybe I'm missing something, but the last update on this was RFC 5006 I think, which is marked as experimental, and I thought the IETF still had a working group discussing it. You missed the upgrade to proposed standard:

Consequences of BGP Peering with Private Addresses

2011-06-15 Thread James Grace
Hey All, So we're running out of peering space in our /24 and we were considering using private /30's for new peerings. Are there any horrific consequences to picking up this practice? Cheers, James

Re: Consequences of BGP Peering with Private Addresses

2011-06-15 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:47 PM, James Grace wrote: So we're running out of peering space in our /24 and we were considering using private /30's for new peerings. Are there any horrific consequences to picking up this practice? Horrific? How about: Most peers won't bring up a session. What

Re: Consequences of BGP Peering with Private Addresses

2011-06-15 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 15/06/2011 17:47, James Grace wrote: So we're running out of peering space in our /24 and we were considering using private /30's for new peerings. Are there any horrific consequences to picking up this practice? yes. it causes nasty problems if you use urpf (as you should), in particular

Re: Consequences of BGP Peering with Private Addresses

2011-06-15 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:47 AM, James Grace ja...@cs.fiu.edu wrote: Hey All, So we're running out of peering space in our /24 and we were considering using private /30's for new peerings.  Are there any horrific consequences to picking up this practice? You can reclaim space by switching

Re: Consequences of BGP Peering with Private Addresses

2011-06-15 Thread isabel dias
IPv4? IPv6? are you planning to do NAT or PAT? Are you using a bogous ASN 64512 through 65534 to be used for private purposes? /30 - 4 addresses/2 hosts - you can't do a mesh configuration w/ that subnet mask.. --- On Wed, 6/15/11, James Grace ja...@cs.fiu.edu wrote: From: James

Re: The stupidity of trying to fix DHCPv6

2011-06-15 Thread sthaug
Ethernet is not designed for huge LANs. If you want that you need to make significant changes - http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mas90/MOOSE/ Hm: Our object is to design a communication system which can grow smoothly to accommodate several buildings full of personal computers and the

Re: Consequences of BGP Peering with Private Addresses

2011-06-15 Thread isabel dias
i guess you have a lot of ibgp sessions ..:-) bgp finite state model http://www.inetdaemon.com/tutorials/internet/ip/routing/bgp/operation/finite_state_model.shtml

Re: The stupidity of trying to fix DHCPv6

2011-06-15 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:04:44 +0200, sth...@nethelp.no said: How big is huge? To some degree it depends on how broadcast chatty the protocols used are - but there's also the matter of having a size which makes it possible to troubleshoot. Personally I'd prefer an upper limit of a few hundred

SORBs Human

2011-06-15 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
Could a human being from SORBs please contact me off-list? Your robot isn't functional, and you are listing one of our ARIN allocations as dynamic, when it is not. (Yes, I know that 'no one uses' SORBs. Customers don't care.) Nathan

Re: The stupidity of trying to fix DHCPv6

2011-06-15 Thread Jima
On 06/15/2011 11:45 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 15 jun 2011, at 18:39, Leo Bicknell wrote: Maybe I'm missing something, but the last update on this was RFC 5006 I think, which is marked as experimental, and I thought the IETF still had a working group discussing it. You missed the

Eircom Networks (of Ireland) contact me off list please

2011-06-15 Thread Landon Stewart
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Re: SORBs Human

2011-06-15 Thread Ken Chase
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 05:26:19PM +, Nathan Eisenberg said: Could a human being from SORBs please contact me off-list? Your robot isn't functional, and you are listing one of our ARIN allocations as dynamic, when it is not. (Yes, I know that 'no one uses' SORBs. Customers don't

Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-15 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Octavio Alvarez wrote: In fact. Although a website of mine worked flawlessly in a dual-stack but it did NOT in an IPv6-only environment. Unfortunately, the problem has to be fixed in the DNS provider, which though supporting records was enough to support IPv6. Why not run your own

Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-15 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/15/2011 12:14, Jeroen van Aart wrote: Octavio Alvarez wrote: In fact. Although a website of mine worked flawlessly in a dual-stack but it did NOT in an IPv6-only environment. Unfortunately, the problem has to be fixed in the DNS provider, which though supporting records was enough

Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-15 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Seth Mattinen wrote: listen-on-v6 { any; }; Yeah that's what I did. But I keep reading about how these big name companies messed it up in some subtle or not so subtle way and I keep thinking I must have missed something. Because surely those big companies can't find it that difficult, can

Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-15 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/15/2011 12:32, Jeroen van Aart wrote: Seth Mattinen wrote: listen-on-v6 { any; }; Yeah that's what I did. But I keep reading about how these big name companies messed it up in some subtle or not so subtle way and I keep thinking I must have missed something. Because surely those big

Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-15 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:32:09PM -0700, Jeroen van Aart wrote: Seth Mattinen wrote: listen-on-v6 { any; }; Yeah that's what I did. But I keep reading about how these big name companies messed it up in some subtle or not so subtle way and I keep thinking I must have

Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-15 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Leo Bicknell wrote: but it all doesn't matter because the network team hadn't actually made IPv6 work yet as there was no business case. Ahhh, ok, well at least I know I did it right the first time. No, I'm not cynical. :) It probably reflects daily practice for many big organisations,

Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-15 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 4df91ab3.6020...@mompl.net, Jeroen van Aart writes: Leo Bicknell wrote: but it all doesn't matter because the network team hadn't actually made IPv6 work yet as there was no business case. Ahhh, ok, well at least I know I did it right the first time. No, I'm not cynical. :)

Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-15 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 08:05:14AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: You tell named to listen on IPv6 (listen-on-v6). It already uses IPv6 to make queries unless you turned it off on the command line with named -4. To go IPv6 only on a dual stack machine use named -6. You add records to the

Re: The stupidity of trying to fix DHCPv6

2011-06-15 Thread Karl Auer
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 17:52 +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: Our object is to design a communication system which can grow smoothly to accommodate several buildings full of personal computers and the facilities needed for their support. Ethernet: Distributed Packet Switching for Local

IETF Fellowship Announcement (IETF 82 and 83)

2011-06-15 Thread Steve Conte
Dear Colleagues, The Internet Society has announced that it is inviting applications for its latest Internet Society Fellowships to the IETF, part of its Next Generation Leaders (NGL) programme (www.InternetSociety.org/Leaders). The Fellowship programme allows engineers from developing

good geographic for servers reaching the South East Asia market

2011-06-15 Thread Michael DeMan
Hi All, I guess this is a bit off-topic since this is the North American network operators group, but I was wondering if anybody had much experience with fiber infrastructure in the South East Asia area. For reference, generally the WikiPedia entry on South East Asia describes the service

Re: Large jump in global table prefix count?

2011-06-15 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:51:52 EDT, Chris Griffin said: PrefixesChange ASnum AS Description 19227 115-19342 AS15557 LDCOMNET NEUF CEGETEL (formerly LDCOM NETWORKS) Somehow, I get the feeling that a network engineer at AS15557 is about to have a very bad

Re: good geographic for servers reaching the South East Asia market

2011-06-15 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Singapore, with a fallback / DR location in say Hong Kong. [Or vice versa depending on what parts of south east asia you want .. for india, singapore would be your best bet] On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:20 AM, Michael DeMan na...@deman.com wrote: For reference, generally the WikiPedia entry on