On 8/12/2011 7:02 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
Why? Unless you live in a HUGE house, you can do 10GE over copper to
all rooms. Copper is infinately easier to run and terminate. I dunno
about you, but 10GE is both out of my price range, and useless given
the speed of my NAS disks, Comcast cable
On 8/12/11 11:59 PM, Chaim Rieger wrote:
On 8/12/2011 7:02 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
Why? Unless you live in a HUGE house, you can do 10GE over copper to
all rooms. Copper is infinately easier to run and terminate. I dunno
about you, but 10GE is both out of my price range, and useless given
the
13.8.2011 3:18, Charles N Wyble kirjoitti:
All,
Related to my thread about home data centers, what are folks using to
store compute gear in?
Mine sits in two racks in my second bedroom. Cooled by ambient AC.
Mine sits in a small room / closet under the stairs, in an on-purpose
built for
On Sat, 2011-08-13 at 14:12 +0900, Randy Bush wrote:
charles skipped what i see as a highly critical question, personal
backup.
Very good point.
For my laptops, nearline field storage includes my laptop's drive and a
portable external drive. Online and nearline home storage is a network
On 08/13/2011 01:20 AM, Jari Arkko wrote:
13.8.2011 3:18, Charles N Wyble kirjoitti:
All,
Related to my thread about home data centers, what are folks using to
store compute gear in?
Mine sits in two racks in my second bedroom. Cooled by ambient AC.
Mine sits in a small room / closet
On 08/12/2011 10:56 PM, radhouan.all...@gmail.com wrote:
Check the ccnsp book. They have I think what you looking for.
Not sure what that is. Did some quick searching. Can you provide a bit
more detail?
Eric Krichbaum e...@telic.us wrote:
I have a 12 pack of single mode run between wiring closets upstairs and
downstairs. Only one server running feeding media to my xbmc's
everywhere
but quite a bit on gig. Nothing overly noisy unless you have your head
in
the closets.
Eric
Anyone got
On 13/08/2011, at 3:12 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
charles skipped what i see as a highly critical question, personal
backup.
my life is on a 13 macbook air, all data, mail back decades (i do not
save all mail), etc. the whole drive is encrypted, my main reason for
moving to
At 07:28 PM 8/12/2011, you wrote:
I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? On
the extreme end of course we have mr morris :)
with his uber lab: http://smorris.uber-geek.net/lab.htm
I have a 60KVA Kohler diesel genset (with DM550 controller and
electronic governor)
I live on a farm and I have a number of data runs between buildings that are
copper ethernet pulled through buried conduits. (It was what I could afford
when I put it in). We have trouble from time to time with damage from
lightning. (I've taken to using an intermediate throwaway 5-port switch
-Original Message-
Anyone got experience with XBMC and similar linux media centre tools running
on tablet or netbook class hardware? I like the idea of using a couple of el
cheapo Android tablets with decent external speakers as music/video/TV/phone
terminals, getting content from a
That's interesting and if true would represent a real change. Can you list
the larger SPs in the US that use OSPF?
jy
On 12/08/2011, at 10:40 PM, James Jones ja...@freedomnet.co.nz wrote:
I would not say ISIS is the prefered protocol. Most service providers I have
worked with use OSPF. Most
That's interesting and if true would represent a real change. Can you
list the larger SPs in the US that use OSPF?
att
is-is in ntt, sprint, verizon, ...
randy
On (2011-08-13 22:44 +1000), Jeffrey S. Young wrote:
That's interesting and if true would represent a real change. Can you list
the larger SPs in the US that use OSPF?
ATT, L3?
Anyhow I fully agree with the sentiment that in eu/us markets most SP rock
ISIS. At one time when I was shopping
I'm borrowing a room at mom's place for this presently :-D, as the 1
bedroom apartment was a bit too small!
It has 2 racks -- a 2post and a full server cabinent. The racks are
physically on separate sides of the room, so I've got a custom cable
tray running along the walls, that's about a foot
On 08/12/2011 09:17 PM, Joe Greco wrote:
What nobody wired their abode with fiber ?
Am i the only one here
I ran a bunch of fiber from the telco rack
What's in the telco rack? This is in your house? What's on it?
Demarc and lightning suppressors for T1, 2xISDN BRI, DSL, cable,
On Sat, 2011-08-13 at 14:12 +0900, Randy Bush wrote:
charles skipped what i see as a highly critical question, personal
backup.
Very good point.
For my laptops, nearline field storage includes my laptop's drive and a
portable external drive. Online and nearline home storage is a
We used to use DVD's for off-site backup, but that's not been the best
of solutions. I've been experimenting with external hard drives but
I am less comfortable with them; I've seen too many drives fail. The
idea of letting them sit for awhile and praying they spin up later
bothers me.
When my parents finally got broadband years ago and I wired their house, I
loaded Linux on an old x86 PC and stashed it in a corner of their garage.
rsync over an ssh tunnel runs nightly from a Linux server in my house (about
90 miles away) to theirs. I don't sync everything, but it gives me
Backups remain a tricky problem to get right.
Yeah. I've been using external USB terabyte disks, which work OK but
are irritatingly flaky.
I keep thinking that this is what tape is for, but every time I look
at AIT or LTO tapes and jukeboxes, they seem to be about a generation
behind the disks
On 2011-08-13 16:53 , John Levine wrote:
Backups remain a tricky problem to get right.
Yeah. I've been using external USB terabyte disks, which work OK but
are irritatingly flaky.
I keep thinking that this is what tape is for, but every time I look
at AIT or LTO tapes and jukeboxes, they
Subject: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet? Date: Fri, Aug 12,
2011 at 06:28:57PM -0500 Quoting Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com):
Hey all,
I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers?
I'm trying not to have anything. Mail, AFS fileserver,
On Sat, 2011-08-13 at 09:13 -0500, Joe Greco wrote:
We used to use DVD's for off-site backup, but that's not been the best
of solutions. I've been experimenting with external hard drives but
I am less comfortable with them; I've seen too many drives fail. The
idea of letting them sit for
On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote:
I live on a farm and I have a number of data runs between buildings that are
copper ethernet pulled through buried conduits. (It was what I could afford
when I put it in). We have trouble from time to time with damage from
lightning. (I've
Has below network been associated with abuse in your experience?
What is the proper listserv to report and discuss known sources
of network and telco abuse? Thanks!
inetnum:91.223.119.0 - 91.223.119.255
netname:PI-UK-FMSLTD
descr: First Media Service Limited
country:
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote:
I live on a farm and I have a number of data runs between buildings that
are
copper ethernet pulled through buried conduits. (It was what I could
afford
when I put it
On Aug 13, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote:
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote:
I live on a farm and I have a number of data runs between buildings that are
copper ethernet pulled through buried
On 8/12/2011 8:29 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
So what's in NANOGers home networks/compute centers? :)
Surprisingly minimalistic - a Linksys cablemodem and a Belkin Play wireless
router, both from Best Buy, a Dell Latitude laptop from work, and a PS/3.
(I used to have more gear, but it
I was hoping to use LTE for a large number of sites we are about to roll out
instead of DS1s. But looks like we will go down the TDM route.
Cheers
Ryan
From: Cameron Byrne [mailto:cb.li...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:56 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: nanog@nanog.org;
I'm in princeton, nj and I recently moved into a new place and had no
internet for about a week and had my router in client mode grabbing hotspot
from my phone and it worked surprisingly well. Of course latency can be a
bit jumpy but my speeds overall were better than the neighbors comcast :) I
Adtran Netvanta 2054 FW
Sperry Univac (1979, ~8U rackmount)
http://oldcomputers.net/AIM-65.html
http://oldcomputers.net/kayproii.html
http://www.wap.org/a3/default.html
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Jeff Kell jeff-k...@utc.edu wrote:
On 8/12/2011 8:29 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Charles N Wyble
char...@knownelement.com wrote:
I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? On
the extreme end of course we have mr morris :)
with his uber lab: http://smorris.uber-geek.net/lab.htm
In my basement:
I use a Sparcserver
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Dorn Hetzel d...@hetzel.org wrote:
Well, I would like to convert the whole outside mess to fiber to eliminate
this problem, and the per-foot price of 6 or 12 strand single mode cables is
pretty reasonable nowadays... But, I'm not very current on the most
You are assuming (as many, many people do) that public addresses equal
no firewall, and that IPv6 CPEs will have no stateful firewalling.
The thing is, just as they have a stateful firewall now for IPv4 they
will have one for IPv6 as well. The fact that your addressing is
public (or let's say,
- Original Message -
From: Coy Hile coy.h...@coyhile.com
From: Alex Rubenstein a...@corp.nac.net
The weakness will be only one provider of connectivity.
Damn, and people claim I'm nuts!
You know, you could go whole hog and multihome.
This thread do give multihome a whole new
- Original Message -
From: Steven Bellovin s...@cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?
The holy grail I'm searching for now? A GigE switch with POE,
unmanaged is ok, and probably preferred from a price perspective;
but with NO FAN.
I
Once upon a time, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com said:
Related to my thread about home data centers, what are folks using to
store compute gear in?
Mine sits in two racks in my second bedroom. Cooled by ambient AC.
I have an old pdp-8 rack (I didn't get the actual computer, just
I have been very happy with the preference of the VZW network. Both 3G and
4G. The issue we have is that they have a 5GB cap. We have tested both the
3G and 4G HWIC for cisco and have been very happy with the hardware.
Cheers
Ryan
From: chris [mailto:tknch...@gmail.com]
Sent:
What plan are you using? My htc thunderbolt has unlimited 4g on the phone
and for my hotspot so I'd imagine there is something similar for standalone
hardware?
chris
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Ryan Finnesey rfinne...@gmail.com wrote:
I have been very happy with the preference of the VZW
On 13/08/2011, at 10:48 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
That's interesting and if true would represent a real change. Can you
list the larger SPs in the US that use OSPF?
att
is-is in ntt, sprint, verizon, ...
randy
ATT's backbone is the old SBC backbone? Finding OSPF here
On 8/11/2011 10:19 AM, Jason Duerstock wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:57 AM, CJ cjinfant...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey all,
Is there any reason to run IS-IS over OSPF in the SP core? Currently, we
are running IS-IS but we are redesigning our core and now would be a good
time to switch. I would
On Aug 13, 2011, at 6:58 PM, chris wrote:
What plan are you using? My htc thunderbolt has unlimited 4g on the phone
and for my hotspot so I'd imagine there is something similar for standalone
hardware?
chris
Verizon, ATT and T-Mobile have all dropped their unlimited plans. If you're on
Report = either that provider or its upstream, would be a good idea.
As for discussing abuse, there's no indication of just what abuse
you're seeing from that /24 when you just paste a whois record.
--srs
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
Has below network
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 21:11, Vinny Abello vi...@abellohome.net wrote:
One of my favorite features in IS-IS is the ability to set the overload
bit during maintenance. The effect is the router on which you set it
isn't seen by any other devices in the topology as a transit path, but
you can
We are looking to use the Cisco 3G/4G card
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps11540/index.html We can pick them up
for about $250 for the 3G and $350 for the 4G.
From: chris [mailto:tknch...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 7:59 PM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: Cameron Byrne;
On 8/13/2011 01:59, Chaim Rieger wrote:
On 8/12/2011 7:02 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
Why? Unless you live in a HUGE house, you can do 10GE over copper to
all rooms. Copper is infinately easier to run and terminate. I dunno
about you, but 10GE is both out of my price range, and useless given
I've got a Danby portable type dual hose unit which works very well
for my office. The single hose units are really no good for getting a
room cool as they continually pull in outside air. It's pretty quiet,
a lot quieter than the cheaper no-name unit it replaced. 12000BTU -
it does really need
On Aug 13, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote:
[[[ Note: If I could find cheap enough switches with an optical interface I
would be switching to optical at this point! ]]]
There are some media converters out there that take a SFP/GLC - RJ45 for
$20-25, e.g.:
I have used 3G in the past as a backup for some sites and I was pretty
impressed with the performance and the ease of configuring it in ios
chris
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Ryan Finnesey rfinne...@gmail.com wrote:
We are looking to use the Cisco 3G/4G card
On Aug 13, 2011, at 1:12 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
charles skipped what i see as a highly critical question, personal
backup.
I've been wondering this as well.
My home backups are somewhat large and not yet offsite due to their size.
(~4.7TB).
This is due to both purchased digital media
The two problems I have with Clear is that it does not work well indoors
(major problem for air ports) and that they will not route my IP block over
there network.
Cheers
Ryan
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Day [mailto:toa...@dragondata.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 9:11 PM
To:
Clear is an absolutely horrible ISP.
It is quite common for it to go in and out and their modems overheat.
--Tammy
- Original Message -
From: Ryan Finnesey rfinne...@gmail.com
To: Kevin Day toa...@dragondata.com, chris tknch...@gmail.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, August
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