Re: Exploiting a non-facilities CLEC relationship

2011-08-15 Thread Charles N Wyble
On 08/15/2011 10:14 PM, Jon Lewis wrote: > On Mon, 15 Aug 2011, Graham Wooden wrote: > If I understand your question, yes. We did this some time ago. Colo > in various ILEC and CLEC central offices, Um. Doesn't colo in various ILEC/CLEC CO == facilities based CLEC? > order T1 loops (but it's o

Re: seeking pointers on the topic of 'name server registration'

2011-08-15 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Brian Reichert wrote: > One of these registrars (NetSol) introduces a topic I've never been > aware of before, this concept of 'name server registration'. > > Web searching shows me several hits along the lines of 'how to > register namesevers with registrar X', bu

Re: Verizon Business - LTE?

2011-08-15 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:28 PM, chris wrote: > I've apparently hit some kind of magic bw limit. My 4G LTE is now magically > fixed at max 1.5mbps > > Last month's usage was about 200gb. > > cmon verizon seriously :( they've been fairly public about 'unlimited' != "unlimited" cause basically yo

Re: Exploiting a non-facilities CLEC relationship

2011-08-15 Thread Graham Wooden
On 8/15/11 10:14 PM, "Jon Lewis" wrote: > On Mon, 15 Aug 2011, Graham Wooden wrote: > >> To clarify ... We have a new customer who is just that ... A non-facilities >> based CLEC. They don't want to resell AT&T's network anymore as they want to >> start building their own network, little bit at

Re: seeking pointers on the topic of 'name server registration'

2011-08-15 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Brian Reichert" > I posted this request in another forum, but didn't get as much info as > I'd hoped: > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.operators.internet-access/5568/match=nameserver+registration > > To reprise in _this_ forum: > > I apologize for th

Re: Exploiting a non-facilities CLEC relationship

2011-08-15 Thread Jon Lewis
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011, Graham Wooden wrote: To clarify ... We have a new customer who is just that ... A non-facilities based CLEC. They don't want to resell AT&T's network anymore as they want to start building their own network, little bit at a time. I was thinking .. Well, shoot .. If all they

Exploiting a non-facilities CLEC relationship

2011-08-15 Thread Graham Wooden
Folks, Is it possible/common for a non-facilities-based CLEC (we call them paper based) to start getting loops pulled for themselves, and to start physically handling the circuits without becoming a full fledged facilities based CLEC? To clarify ... We have a new customer who is just that ... A n

seeking pointers on the topic of 'name server registration'

2011-08-15 Thread Brian Reichert
I posted this request in another forum, but didn't get as much info as I'd hoped: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.operators.internet-access/5568/match=nameserver+registration To reprise in _this_ forum: I apologize for the noise; I hope this is an appropriate forum. I've been hosting DNS

Re: Verizon Business - LTE?

2011-08-15 Thread chris
I've apparently hit some kind of magic bw limit. My 4G LTE is now magically fixed at max 1.5mbps Last month's usage was about 200gb. cmon verizon seriously :( chris On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Charles N Wyble wrote: > On 08/13/2011 01:09 PM, chris wrote: > >> I'm in princeton, nj and I r

[NANOG-announce] NANOG 53 Update

2011-08-15 Thread Betty Burke
Everyone, A registration fee reminder: - Early Bird Registration through August 15, 2011 (non-member $450, member $425, student $100) - Standard Registration starting August 16, 2011 (non-member $525, member $500, student $100) Also, please get those presentation submissions in! NA

Re: How long is your rack?

2011-08-15 Thread Scott Weeks
--- ra...@psg.com wrote: From: Randy Bush > I've always wondered if the next cisco/juniper 0 day will be delivered > via a set of exploits delivered via a link posted to NANOG. :) Maybe > I'll do a talk at DEFCON next year about that. : more likely a 'shortened' url. how anyone can click thos

Re: IPv6 Real World Maturity (was re: How long is your rack?)

2011-08-15 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Aug 15, 2011 2:15 PM, "Tim Wilde" wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/15/2011 2:24 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > What does it say that the same thing happens in IPv4? > > > > I really don't see a significant difference in that regard. > > I will admit to not having

Re: IPv6 Real World Maturity (was re: How long is your rack?)

2011-08-15 Thread Owen DeLong
On Aug 15, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Tim Wilde wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/15/2011 2:24 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> What does it say that the same thing happens in IPv4? >> >> I really don't see a significant difference in that regard. > > I will admit to not having

Re: How long is your rack?

2011-08-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:37:37AM -0400, Randy Bush wrote: > >> more likely a 'shortened' url. how anyone can click those is beyond > >> me. > > I'm curious what your objection is. > > i have no assurance that a shortened url does not lead to a malicious > site. also your privacy issue, but tha

Re: IPv6 Real World Maturity (was re: How long is your rack?)

2011-08-15 Thread Tim Wilde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/15/2011 2:24 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > What does it say that the same thing happens in IPv4? > > I really don't see a significant difference in that regard. I will admit to not having run the numbers and trying to compare IPv4 protocol-specific d

Re: How long is your rack?

2011-08-15 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX) wrote: > I hope someone will explain the operational relevance > of this ... > > Sun V100         FreeBSD firewall/border gateway > Sun V100         Plan 9 kernel porting test bed > Sun V100         OpenBSD build/test/port box > Int

Re: How long is your rack?

2011-08-15 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 8/15/2011 8:37 AM, Randy Bush wrote: i have no assurance that a shortened url does not lead to a malicious site. From a practical standpoint, a long URL provides no greater assurance. you really have no idea what you're going to receive when you click on any link. life is nasty. but

Infection vectors

2011-08-15 Thread Charles N Wyble
On 08/15/2011 10:31 AM, Steven Bellovin wrote: On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:12 21AM, Randy Bush wrote: I've always wondered if the next cisco/juniper 0 day will be delivered via a set of exploits delivered via a link posted to NANOG. :) Maybe I'll do a talk at DEFCON next year about that. more likel

Re: How long is your rack?

2011-08-15 Thread Randy Bush
>> more likely a 'shortened' url. how anyone can click those is beyond >> me. > I'm curious what your objection is. i have no assurance that a shortened url does not lead to a malicious site. also your privacy issue, but that is secondary. > you really have no idea what you're going to receive

Re: How long is your rack?

2011-08-15 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:12 21AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> I've always wondered if the next cisco/juniper 0 day will be delivered >> via a set of exploits delivered via a link posted to NANOG. :) Maybe >> I'll do a talk at DEFCON next year about that. > > more likely a 'shortened' url. how anyone can

Re: How long is your rack?

2011-08-15 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:12:21AM -0400, Randy Bush wrote: > more likely a 'shortened' url. how anyone can click those is beyond me. http://longurl.org/ -- Leo Bicknell - bickn...@ufp.org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ pgpEKbzQacqye.

Re: How long is your rack?

2011-08-15 Thread Randy Bush
> I've always wondered if the next cisco/juniper 0 day will be delivered > via a set of exploits delivered via a link posted to NANOG. :) Maybe > I'll do a talk at DEFCON next year about that. more likely a 'shortened' url. how anyone can click those is beyond me. randy

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-15 Thread Jeff Hartley
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? On > the extreme end of course we have mr morris :) > with his uber lab: http://smorris.uber-geek.net/lab.htm > > I try to maximize cost-effectiveness whereve

Re: What is @SK

2011-08-15 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Kenneth Brody" > Okay, so I guess I have to concede to George that it might not be so obvious > that it doesn't need explaining. (Unless, of course, the original silence > was due to the fact that everyone thought it was so obvious that it didn't > need expla

Re: NANOGers home data centers - What's in your closet?

2011-08-15 Thread Matt Ryanczak
On 8/13/11 4:01 AM, Alexander Harrowell wrote: Anyone got experience with XBMC and similar linux media centre tools running on tablet or netbook class hardware? I like the idea of using a couple of el cheapo Android tablets with decent external speakers as music/video/TV/phone terminals, getti