* Arturo Servin
NAT444 alone is not enough.
You will need to deploy it along with 6rd or DS-lite.
In a typical DS-Lite deployment you won't be using NAT444. One of the
key advantages of DS-Lite (and A+P, I believe) is that there's only one
level of NAT between the end user and
In a typical DS-Lite deployment you won't be using NAT444. One of the
key advantages of DS-Lite (and A+P, I believe) is that there's only one
level of NAT between the end user and the public internet.
yep. and in ds-lite that nat is in the core, so you talk to comcast's
lawyers when you need
-Original Message-
From: Arturo Servin [mailto:arturo.ser...@gmail.com]
Sent: 07 September 2011 01:37
To: Serge Vautour
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: NAT444 or ?
NAT444 alone is not enough.
You will need to deploy it along with 6rd or DS-lite.
Whilst
I'm going to have to deploy NAT444 with dual-stack real soon now.
you may want to review the presentations from last week's apnic meeting
in busan. real mesurements. sufficiently scary that people who were
heavily pushing nat444 for the last two years suddenly started to say
it was not me who
-Original Message-
From: Randy Bush [mailto:ra...@psg.com]
Sent: 07 September 2011 11:18
To: Leigh Porter
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group
Subject: Re: NAT444 or ?
I'm going to have to deploy NAT444 with dual-stack real soon now.
you may want to review the
On 9/6/2011 6:02 AM, BH wrote:
Looking around, I believe the issue is that the IP has ended up on a
master game list, so we are now getting the queries directed at US.
Having written multiple versions of a Quake III master server (again,
much self-hate) I pulled one of my old master query
I would love a world where engineering was consulted by marketing :(
Wouldn't be a problem is management invested based on engineering's
recommendations.
There are few problems that money can't solve .. in this case, it's
sure, we can offer unlimited bandwidth, we just need to build (x)
FYI!!!
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoftpri0/2016132391_microsoft_dee
ms_all_diginotar_certificates_untrust.html
Google and Mozilla have also updated their browsers to block all DigiNotar
certificates, while Apple has been silent on the issue, a emblematic zombie
response!
Cheers.
On 9/7/11 09:02 , Michael Holstein wrote:
I would love a world where engineering was consulted by marketing :(
Wouldn't be a problem is management invested based on engineering's
recommendations.
There are few problems that money can't solve .. in this case, it's
sure, we can offer
On Wednesday 07 Sep 2011 17:17:10 Network IP Dog wrote:
FYI!!!
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoftpri0/2016132391_microsoft_dee
ms_all_diginotar_certificates_untrust.html
Google and Mozilla have also updated their browsers to block all
DigiNotar
certificates, while Apple has
On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 09:28:28 PDT, Joel jaeggli said:
The way to achieve a return on invested capital is to attract and retain
customers who pay for a service which they find compelling.
Only true if long-term returns on investment are suitable for consideration
instead of short-term returns.
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 12:16:28PM +0200, Randy Bush wrote:
I'm going to have to deploy NAT444 with dual-stack real soon now.
you may want to review the presentations from last week's apnic meeting
in busan. real mesurements. sufficiently scary that people who were
heavily pushing nat444
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Roesen [mailto:d...@cluenet.de]
Sent: 07 September 2011 17:38
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: NAT444 or ?
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 12:16:28PM +0200, Randy Bush wrote:
I'm going to have to deploy NAT444 with dual-stack real soon now.
you may
On 9/7/11 09:37 , valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 09:28:28 PDT, Joel jaeggli said:
The way to achieve a return on invested capital is to attract and retain
customers who pay for a service which they find compelling.
Only true if long-term returns on investment are
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Joel jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote:
On 9/7/11 09:02 , Michael Holstein wrote:
I would love a world where engineering was consulted by marketing :(
Wouldn't be a problem is management invested based on engineering's
recommendations.
There are few problems
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 12:16:28PM +0200, Randy Bush wrote:
I'm going to have to deploy NAT444 with dual-stack real soon now.
you may want to review the presentations from last week's apnic meeting
in busan. real mesurements. sufficiently scary that people who were
heavily pushing nat444
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 01:06:11PM -0400,
jean-francois.tremblay...@videotron.com wrote:
I had the same question. I found Miyakawa-san's presentation has some
dramatic examples of CGN NAT444 effects using Google Maps:
Friends of mine recently bought a large traditionally-designed house.
The former servant's quarters are now the server room.
Most networks have been trying to avoid that, building out a quarterly pop
thing,... problem is now its an ongoing cumulative quarterly pop across many
years, With pent up frustrated consumer demand for more and more
videoincluding face time on these apple devices!
Iridescent iPhone
Just wondering,
Is anyone aware whether there is already an active mailing list/group for
datacenter facilities folks to discuss power, cooling, physical infrastructure,
etc, etc...?
thanks,
-Drew
The United States Department of Defense (DoD) has authorized the DoD Network
Information Center (NIC) to sign the .mil zone using DNSSEC. The DoD NIC
will sign the .mil zone using a phased implementation plan that will span a
three (3) month period.
The first phase will consist of signing the
I would love to be a part of this list if there is one!!!
Cooling is not as easy as just pumping cold air into a room.
From: drew.wea...@thenap.com
To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 14:28:05 -0400
Subject: Mailing list/group for datacenter facilities folks
Just wondering,
On 09/07/2011 03:06 PM, Brandon Kim wrote:
I would love to be a part of this list if there is one!!!
+1
Perhaps there should be a DC track at NANOG?
One of the reasons I have not gone in years.
I have much knowledge and experience to share, but no one to share it with.
I would love to be a part of this list if there is one!!!
Cooling is not as easy as just pumping cold air into a room.
Op 7 sep 2011, om 19:06 heeft jean-francois.tremblay...@videotron.com het
volgende geschreven:
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 12:16:28PM +0200, Randy Bush wrote:
I'm going to have to deploy NAT444 with dual-stack real soon now.
you may want to review the presentations from last week's apnic meeting
On Sep 7, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Drew Weaver wrote:
Just wondering,
Is anyone aware whether there is already an active mailing list/group for
datacenter facilities folks to discuss power, cooling, physical
infrastructure, etc, etc...?
There was one at shorty.com, but that's now a paintball
I'd like to have discussions on air flow, CRAC units, A/B power
circuitsbest practices etc etc.
From: a...@corp.nac.net
To: brandon@brandontek.com; drew.wea...@thenap.com; nanog@nanog.org
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 15:20:56 -0400
Subject: RE: Mailing list/group for datacenter
-Original Message-
From: Seth Mos [mailto:seth@dds.nl]
Sent: 07 September 2011 20:26
To: NANOG
Subject: Re: NAT444 or ?
I think you have the numbers off, he started with 1000 users sharing
the same IP, since you can only do 62k sessions or so and with a
normal timeout on
dc-...@puck.nether.net thanks Jared =)
http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/dc-ops
-Drew
-Original Message-
From: Drew Weaver [mailto:drew.wea...@thenap.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 2:28 PM
To: 'nanog@nanog.org'
Subject: Mailing list/group for datacenter facilities
However these are with a very high address-sharing ratio (several
thousands users per address). Using a sparser density (= 64 users per
address) is likely to show much less dramatic user impacts.
I think you have the numbers off, he started with 1000 users sharing
the same IP, since you
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Leigh Porter
leigh.por...@ukbroadband.comwrote:
I was thinking of an average of around 100 sessions per user for working
out how things scale to start with. It would also be handy to be able to
apply sensible limits to new sessions, say limit the number of
On 9/7/2011 3:24 PM, Seth Mos wrote:
I think you have the numbers off, he started with 1000 users sharing the same IP, since
you can only do 62k sessions or so and with a normal timeout on those
sessions you ran into issues quickly.
Remember that a TCP session is defined not just by the
On Sep 7, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Drew Weaver wrote:
dc-...@puck.nether.net thanks Jared =)
+1, beat me to it. Thanks!
--Chris
-Original Message-
From: David Israel [mailto:da...@otd.com]
Sent: 07 September 2011 21:23
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: NAT444 or ?
On 9/7/2011 3:24 PM, Seth Mos wrote:
I think you have the numbers off, he started with 1000 users sharing
the same IP, since you can only do
David Israel wrote, on 09/07/2011 04:21 PM:
In theory, this
particular performance problem should only arise when the NAT gear insists on
a
unique port per session (which is common, but unnecessary)
What you're describing is known as endpoint-independent mapping behaviour. It
is good for not
Have found http://www.linkedin.com/groups?about=gid=94108 to have some
gems in it.
I mention only because it's otherwise a case of YAML (that is, Yet
Another Mailing List, not the logging format...)
Of course, not everyone uses or likes LinkedIn.
Mark.
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 16:09 -0400, Drew
On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 16:13:26 EDT, Dorn Hetzel said:
Perhaps it can be made ever so slightly less ugly if endpoints get an
address that consists of a 32 bit IP address + (n) upper bits of port
number.
This might be 4 significant bits to share an IP 16 ways, or 8 significant
bits to share it
-Original Message-
From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu]
Sent: 07 September 2011 23:14
To: Dorn Hetzel
Cc: Leigh Porter; NANOG
Subject: Re: NAT444 or ?
On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 16:13:26 EDT, Dorn Hetzel said:
Perhaps it can be made ever so slightly less
So I think my shortlist is Esol, Equinix, Qwest, and DirectColo, if they're
not already a tenant of one of the other 3.
Anyone got any info on how those three/four are about native IPv6?
Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com
Designer
Does anyone know what the software bug that hit Brighthouse in Tampa?
Eric Miller
On Sep 7, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Leigh Porter wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Seth Mos [mailto:seth@dds.nl]
Sent: 07 September 2011 20:26
To: NANOG
Subject: Re: NAT444 or ?
I think you have the numbers off, he started with 1000 users sharing
the same IP, since you can only do
+1
--
Pardon the typos - sent from a silly keyboard
On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:09, Matt Ryanczak ryanc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 09/07/2011 03:06 PM, Brandon Kim wrote:
I would love to be a part of this list if there is one!!!
+1
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Brandon Kim brandon@brandontek.com wrote:
I would love to be a part of this list if there is one!!!
Cooling is not as easy as just pumping cold air into a room.
?
Indeed... it's even easier than that. Cooling is as easy as making
an entire room emit
- From: Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com -
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Brandon Kim brandon@brandontek.com wrote:
Cooling is not as easy as just pumping cold air into a room.
: There are many ways of accomplishing that. One of the best ways
: is to put your room in an already
LOL too funny guys..
I agree it has to do with air flowplus temps have to be just right. You
don't want it too cold and
equipment start freezingor ice forming
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 18:32:01 -0700
From: sur...@mauigateway.com
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Mailing
It affected outside Tampa even. Even went as far south as Bradenton so I
am guessing it was systemwide. For awhile their call center was so
overloaded you received a fast busy when you called.
Justin
--
Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net
Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw
http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 08:03:24PM -0500, Jimmy Hess said:
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Brandon Kim brandon@brandontek.com
wrote:
I would love to be a part of this list if there is one!!!
Cooling is not as easy as just pumping cold air into a room.
?
Indeed... it's
On 08/09/2011, at 2:41 AM, Leigh Porter wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Roesen [mailto:d...@cluenet.de]
Sent: 07 September 2011 17:38
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: NAT444 or ?
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 12:16:28PM +0200, Randy Bush wrote:
I'm going to have to deploy
Op 8 sep 2011, om 07:26 heeft Geoff Huston het volgende geschreven:
On 08/09/2011, at 2:41 AM, Leigh Porter wrote:
It may not be what Randy was referring to above, but as part of that program
at APNIC32 I reported on the failure rate I am measuring for Teredo. I'm not
sure its all in
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