Re: [routing-wg] The Cidr Report

2011-10-16 Thread Graham Beneke
On 15/10/2011 21:25, Geoff Huston wrote: Does anyone give a s**t about this any more? I do. While most of the content of the actual mail has very little relevance to me, it does provide useful leverage and motivation to fix some of the networks where I do have influence. From what I

Re: [routing-wg] The Cidr Report

2011-10-16 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 15. Oct 2011, at 19:25 , Geoff Huston wrote: Does anyone give a s**t about this any more? Yes, and if only to tell people that we could do a lot better if we'd care more about the Net than .. (?)economics(?) ..? I keep wondering if people generate more elaborated filters based on the

Re: [routing-wg] BGP Update Report

2011-10-16 Thread John Peach
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 03:50:08 + Skeeve Stevens ske...@eintellego.net wrote: John, Bit hard for Geoff to devnull them, he is the author ;-) not really, given that he is not the sender, the mailing list is [snip] -- John -- John

Re: The Cidr Report

2011-10-16 Thread Aftab Siddiqui
Randy, yes, our ASN landed on polluter list once and we fixed it. I think there is nothing wrong in sharing that. Me and few bunch of self acclaimed geeks of our region read it and have done our level best to remove few polluters but with very less success. Seems like those who should be reading

Re: The Cidr Report

2011-10-16 Thread Randy Bush
aftab, yes, our ASN landed on polluter list once and we fixed it. I think there is nothing wrong in sharing that. thank you, thank you. Me and few bunch of self acclaimed geeks of our region read it and have done our level best to remove few polluters but with very less success. what

Re: The Cidr Report

2011-10-16 Thread Aftab Siddiqui
Me and few bunch of self acclaimed geeks of our region read it and have done our level best to remove few polluters but with very less success. what would help? I guess rpki would help and a banner during every NOG/RIR meeting showing top polluters. I seriously don't understand that why an

Re: [routing-wg] BGP Update Report

2011-10-16 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011, Keegan Holley wrote: +1 good to get a view from multiple sources even if they are automated. Should be easy enough to filter for those that do not want them. Plus it's helped me in the past catch a very massive (well, OK, it was a less than a hundred unaggregated

Re: The Cidr Report

2011-10-16 Thread Randy Bush
Me and few bunch of self acclaimed geeks of our region read it and have done our level best to remove few polluters but with very less success. what would help? I guess rpki would help working on it. it will lessen the perceived security benefit of fragging. and a banner during every

Re: The Cidr Report

2011-10-16 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: success. what would help? I guess rpki would help and a banner during every NOG/RIR meeting showing top polluters. A similar thing was done at a USENIX in Monterey over a decade ago. The point behind that one was to drive home how bad it was

Re: The Cidr Report

2011-10-16 Thread Aftab Siddiqui
I seriously don't understand that why an RIR can't send atleast a notice to those announcing bogus prefixes. A letter in RED mailed to the business address would help. RIRs claimed in the past that they have nothing to do with routing. of course, rpki-based origin validation changes this.

Re: The Cidr Report

2011-10-16 Thread Randy Bush
So, any chance of putting a banner of top polluters in next APRICOT. :) ^ a/p i will try to work with the organizers on this randy

Re: [routing-wg] The Cidr Report

2011-10-16 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Graham Beneke gra...@apolix.co.za Perhaps a biggest climbers fallers list would also have more relevance for the regular report. The Top 30 list doesn't seem to change very often... ;-) And now... with the top 30 prefixes in the United States for the week

Re: 13 years ago today - October 16, 1998...

2011-10-16 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Oct 15, 2011, at 11:20 58PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: Rodney Joffe rjo...@centergate.com Subject: 13 years ago today - October 16, 1998... we lost Jon. It feels like just yesterday. http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2468.html My path didn't cross

Re: The Cidr Report

2011-10-16 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: I seriously don't understand that why an RIR can't send atleast a notice to those announcing bogus prefixes. A letter in RED mailed to the business address would help. The RIRs have indicated in the past that they don't see this as their job even

Re: [routing-wg] BGP Update Report

2011-10-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:39:13 EDT, John Peach said: not really, given that he is not the sender, the mailing list is We want to get pedantic, who generated the Message-ID: for the mail in question? ;) pgp3yje0gvcXQ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [routing-wg] BGP Update Report

2011-10-16 Thread John Peach
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:25:56 -0400 valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:39:13 EDT, John Peach said: not really, given that he is not the sender, the mailing list is We want to get pedantic, who generated the Message-ID: for the mail in question? ;) I had no

Re: The Cidr Report

2011-10-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 10:06:10 EDT, William F. Maton Sotomayor said: A similar thing was done at a USENIX in Monterey over a decade ago. The point behind that one was to drive home how bad it was for the attendees to use telnet to their boxes at the mothership. Nothing like seeing people

Re: Apple updates - Akamai effect

2011-10-16 Thread J
Baskett, Andrew wrote: Hi J, As Patrick mentioned, on-net private Akamai clusters should not be serving out of your network unless you desire them to or there is a configuration mistake. There is a small caveat; we direct users by which DNS they use and not by end user IP address. So if