The alternative to centralization is enclosure: segmentation and private
ownership of portions of the formerly common resource. Since the internet is
already thus enclosed, with each portion completely owned by one autonomous
agent or another, the problem at hand is not a commons problem at all
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:44:16 EDT, William Herrin said:
For our purpose, describing the Internet as a commons fundamentally
misunderstands its nature.
You *do* realize that for all your nice Thei Internet Is Not A Commons
ranting, the basic problem is that some people (we'll call them spammers)
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From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu]
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 10:42 AM
To: William Herrin
Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Pete Carah
Subject: Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:44:16 EDT, William Herrin said:
For
Owen,
When you stretch an analogy this thin, it always falls apart. I was referring
to the poison/pollution not the water/air. A drought/vacuum* would not be
possible, but would you want the poisoned water/air?
This analogy is bad enough without the nits picked out. I actually mixed two
posts
On 10/27/2011 20:49, Ross Annetts wrote:
Hi,
We have been allocated the IP range:
101.0.64.0/18
And have had issues with 2 networks in regards to bogon filtering. It would
be appreciated if everyone can remove it from their bogon lists.
Well no one else has said it yet,
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Joel jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote:
Email as facility is a public good whether it constitutes a commons or
not... If wasn't you wouldn't bother putting up a server that would
accept unsolicited incoming connections on behalf of yourself and
others, doing so is
Girls,
You are all pretty. End the thread. Seriously.
-Hammer-
I was a normal American nerd
-Jack Herer
On 10/28/2011 01:59 PM, William Herrin wrote:
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Joel jaegglijoe...@bogus.com wrote:
Email as facility is a public good whether it constitutes a
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 11:41 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:44:16 EDT, William Herrin said:
For our purpose, describing the Internet as a commons fundamentally
misunderstands its nature.
You *do* realize that for all your nice Thei Internet Is Not A Commons
On 28 October 2011 16:41, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
You *do* realize that for all your nice Thei Internet Is Not A Commons
ranting, the basic problem is that some people (we'll call them spammers) *do*
think that (a) it's a commons (or at least the exact ownership of a given
chunk is
Apologies for the off-topic chatter...
-wil
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- Original Message -
From: William Herrin b...@herrin.us
Interesting. I want to abstract and restate what I think you just said
and ask you to correct my understanding:
Making a service accessible to the public via the Internet implicitly
grants some basic permission to that public
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On Oct 28, 2011, at 12:16, Brian Johnson bjohn...@drtel.com wrote:
Owen,
When you stretch an analogy this thin, it always falls apart. I was referring
to the poison/pollution not the water/air. A drought/vacuum* would not be
possible, but would you want the poisoned
Am 27.10.2011 um 21:30 schrieb Mike:
Greetings,
I have been given the opportunity to teach the mechanics of the
Internet to a group of 6 - 12'th grade students, and as an engineer and owner
of an ISP I have it in mind to really get into this and show these kids how,
really, all
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Interval: 20-Oct-11 -to- 27-Oct-11 (7 days)
Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072
TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS
Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name
1 - AS335233466 2.0% 10.1 -- TELEFONICA-DATA-ESPANA
TELEFONICA DE ESPANA
2 - AS38040
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On 19/10/2011, at 9:02 PM, Philip Smith wrote:
Hi Leo,
Leo Vegoda said the following on 18/10/11 00:31 :
128.0.87.0/2430977 JSC Yugra-Telecom
This one seems to be an error. 128.0.80/21 appears to have been allocated on
5 October, nine days before the report was generated.
On 29/10/2011 5:21 AM, Doug Barton wrote:
On 10/27/2011 20:49, Ross Annetts wrote:
Hi,
We have been allocated the IP range:
101.0.64.0/18
And have had issues with 2 networks in regards to bogon filtering. It would
be appreciated if everyone can remove it from their bogon lists.
Well
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On Oct 28, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
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On Oct 28, 2011, at 12:16, Brian Johnson bjohn...@drtel.com wrote:
Owen,
When you stretch an analogy this thin, it always falls apart. I was
referring to the poison/pollution
++1
- Brian
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On Oct 28, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Mike Jones m...@mikejones.in wrote:
On 28 October 2011 16:41, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
You *do* realize that for all your nice Thei Internet Is Not A Commons
ranting, the basic problem is that some people (we'll call them
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