Re: Performance Issues - PTR Records

2011-11-07 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 1:34 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 01:09:19 CST, Robert Bonomi said: You're missing some 'obvious' considerations.  Consider a spam complaint sent with 'full headers' included.  The rDNS _at_the_time_of_the_crime_ is present in the complaint.

RE: IPv6 beta support for Android phones

2011-11-07 Thread Leigh Porter
LTE does not have the dual attachment problem since there is the concept of having v4 and v6 in one attachment, but it does not change the fact that there are not enough IPv4 addresses to go around, especially from a strategic planning perspective (let's design this once for 5 to 10+ year

Re: IPv6 beta support for Android phones

2011-11-07 Thread Tom Hill
Hi Cameron, On Sun, 2011-11-06 at 21:31 -0800, Cameron Byrne wrote: There are a variety of reasons. Most prominent is that if the issue is lack of IPv4 addresses (public and private), dual-stack does not solve this problem, each device still gets an IPv4 address. Another major issue is

Re: Performance Issues - PTR Records

2011-11-07 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 2 November 2011 17:57, Matt Chung itsmemattch...@gmail.com wrote: I work for a regional ISP and very recently there has been an influx of calls reporting slowness when accessing certain websites (i.e google.com/voice/b) via HTTP. *snip* I have been experiencing this same issue as an end

Re: Performance Issues - PTR Records

2011-11-07 Thread sthaug
The practice of filling out the reverse zone with fake PTR record started before there was wide spread support for UPDATE/DNS. There isn't any need for this to be done anymore. Machines are capable of adding records for themselves. How do I setup this for DHCPv6-PD? Say, I delegate

Re: Performance Issues - PTR Records

2011-11-07 Thread Leigh Porter
On 7 Nov 2011, at 13:48, sth...@nethelp.no sth...@nethelp.no wrote: The practice of filling out the reverse zone with fake PTR record started before there was wide spread support for UPDATE/DNS. There isn't any need for this to be done anymore. Machines are capable of adding records for

Re: Performance Issues - PTR Records

2011-11-07 Thread Bjørn Mork
Leigh Porter leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com writes: Indeed, there is no way I would allow that either. But really, providing a reverse zone and forward zone to match is a case of five minutes and a shell script or a DNS that as Steinar said, will synthesise results. It's really not all that

TATA problems?

2011-11-07 Thread Todd Snyder
We seem to be having some problems with our tata links - first seen in EU about 45 minutes ago, now we're seeing problems in NA. I'm focused on DNS, so I'm seeing a lot of timeouts/servfails, but our networking folks are talking about links dropping. Anyone else seeing oddness on the NA Internet

Time Warner Telecom problems

2011-11-07 Thread Peter Pauly
Gizmodo is reporting problems at Time Warner Telecom we're suffering from it too and calls to the NOC have not been answered so far... does anyone have any further information? http://gizmodo.com/5857010/massive-time-warner-outage-hits-the-us

Re: TATA problems?

2011-11-07 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 10:00:34AM -0500, Todd Snyder t...@borked.ca wrote a message of 12 lines which said: We seem to be having some problems with our tata links They probably use Juniper routers :-)

RE: Time Warner Telecom problems

2011-11-07 Thread Drew Weaver
The current line is Level3 is currently having an issue where they have certain code versions of a certain router vendor deployed. They haven't said anything yet, so it's still kind of sketchy. -Original Message- From: Peter Pauly [mailto:ppa...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 07,

Re: TATA problems?

2011-11-07 Thread Tim Vollebregt
Hi, This issue seems to be much bigger, we lost about 20 Level3 and some TATA sessions. Also we lost about 15% of our total traffic. On #IX there are rumours about Junos version 10.3R2.11 being core dumped and rebooted, which makes sense. Currently traffic is restored. Tim On 07-11-11

Re: Time Warner Telecom problems

2011-11-07 Thread Lane Powers
L3 reported multiple links bouncing nationwide in the US approx 30 minutes ago. Causing multiple IP issues. Lane -- Lane Powers On 11/7/11 9:04 AM, Peter Pauly ppa...@gmail.com wrote: Gizmodo is reporting problems at Time Warner Telecom we're suffering from it too and calls to the NOC

RE: Time Warner Telecom problems

2011-11-07 Thread Drew Weaver
Any idea where this information can be found publically? -Original Message- From: Lane Powers [mailto:lane.pow...@swat.coop] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:06 AM To: Peter Pauly; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Time Warner Telecom problems L3 reported multiple links bouncing nationwide

RE: Time Warner Telecom problems

2011-11-07 Thread Calkins, Mark
I believe you are referring to Time Warner Cable. There is no such thing as Time Warner Telecom anymore. -Original Message- From: Peter Pauly [mailto:ppa...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 8:04 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Time Warner Telecom problems Gizmodo is reporting

Re: Time Warner Telecom problems

2011-11-07 Thread Lane Powers
If your an L3 transit customer you should be able to refer to event id 5197215. Not sure if they have published anything otherwise, it is still very early. In our case we had to drop our L3 sessions until the storm passes. Lane On 11/7/11 9:08 AM, Drew Weaver drew.wea...@thenap.com wrote: Any

Re: TATA problems?

2011-11-07 Thread Tom Hill
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 10:00 -0500, Todd Snyder wrote: We seem to be having some problems with our tata links - first seen in EU about 45 minutes ago, now we're seeing problems in NA. I'm focused on DNS, so I'm seeing a lot of timeouts/servfails, but our networking folks are talking about

Re: Time Warner Telecom problems

2011-11-07 Thread Jon Lewis
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011, Peter Pauly wrote: Gizmodo is reporting problems at Time Warner Telecom we're suffering from it too and calls to the NOC have not been answered so far... does anyone have any further information? http://gizmodo.com/5857010/massive-time-warner-outage-hits-the-us I

Re: Performance Issues - PTR Records

2011-11-07 Thread Leigh Porter
On 7 Nov 2011, at 14:03, Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no wrote: Leigh Porter leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com writes: Indeed, there is no way I would allow that either. But really, providing a reverse zone and forward zone to match is a case of five minutes and a shell script or a DNS that as

Re: Time Warner Telecom problems

2011-11-07 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 07:04:19AM -0800, Peter Pauly wrote: Gizmodo is reporting problems at Time Warner Telecom we're suffering from it too and calls to the NOC have not been answered so far... does anyone have any further information?

General Internet Instability

2011-11-07 Thread Jared Mauch
On Nov 7, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Tom Hill wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 10:00 -0500, Todd Snyder wrote: We seem to be having some problems with our tata links - first seen in EU about 45 minutes ago, now we're seeing problems in NA. I'm focused on DNS, so I'm seeing a lot of timeouts/servfails,

Re: TATA problems?

2011-11-07 Thread Pierre-Yves Maunier
2011/11/7 Tom Hill t...@ninjabadger.net On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 10:00 -0500, Todd Snyder wrote: We seem to be having some problems with our tata links - first seen in EU about 45 minutes ago, now we're seeing problems in NA. I'm focused on DNS, so I'm seeing a lot of timeouts/servfails,

Re: TATA problems?

2011-11-07 Thread Leigh Porter
My 10.4r1.9 boxes died also but I saw interfaces go down whilst bgpd seemed stable. -- Leigh On 7 Nov 2011, at 15:34, Pierre-Yves Maunier na...@maunier.org wrote: 2011/11/7 Tom Hill t...@ninjabadger.net On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 10:00 -0500, Todd Snyder wrote: We seem to be having some

Re: Time Warner Telecom problems

2011-11-07 Thread Joe Greco
Gizmodo is reporting problems at Time Warner Telecom we're suffering from it too and calls to the NOC have not been answered so far... does anyone have any further information? http://gizmodo.com/5857010/massive-time-warner-outage-hits-the-us Actually, it looks to me like they mean

Re: TATA problems?

2011-11-07 Thread Kelly Kane
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 07:06, Tim Vollebregt t...@interworx.nl wrote: On #IX there are rumours about Junos version 10.3R2.11 being core dumped and rebooted, which makes sense. Perhaps related to Juniper PSN-2011-08-327? Did the whole router reboot, or just the service module? We saw one TATA

Re: Time Warner Telecom problems

2011-11-07 Thread Blake Hudson
Joe Greco wrote the following on 11/7/2011 9:54 AM: Gizmodo is reporting problems at Time Warner Telecom we're suffering from it too and calls to the NOC have not been answered so far... does anyone have any further information?

RE: Time Warner Telecom problems

2011-11-07 Thread Thomas York
FWIW, We saw issues here in Indianapolis between TWTC and L3 up until a few minutes ago. --Thomas York -Original Message- From: Blake Hudson [mailto:bl...@ispn.net] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 11:02 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Time Warner Telecom problems Joe Greco wrote

RE: Time Warner Telecom problems

2011-11-07 Thread Jon Lewis
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011, Calkins, Mark wrote: I believe you are referring to Time Warner Cable. There is no such thing as Time Warner Telecom anymore. It's just TW Telecom now. http://www.twtelecom.com/ -- Jon Lewis, MCP :)

Router and interface naming convention survey

2011-11-07 Thread Joseph Chabarek
I am doing a survey to see what naming conventions are used for routers and router interfaces as part of a measurement study that I am conducting as a student at the University of Wisconsin Madison. If you are interested in participating please fill out my form at:

Re: Cell-based OOB management devices

2011-11-07 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Nov 6, 2011 10:15 PM, David Hubbard dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com wrote: Hi all, I am looking at cellular-based devices as a higher speed alternative to dial-up backup access methods for out of band management during emergencies. I was wondering if anyone had experiences with such devices

Re: General Internet Instability

2011-11-07 Thread Todd Snyder
Can anyone point to any authoritative updates about this? On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On Nov 7, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Tom Hill wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 10:00 -0500, Todd Snyder wrote: We seem to be having some problems with our tata links -

Re: TATA problems?

2011-11-07 Thread Dan
We got a panic message about the PFE that core'd and looks like it restarted our FPC's. JUNOS 10.2R2.11 -Dan On Nov 7, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Kelly Kane wrote: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 07:06, Tim Vollebregt t...@interworx.nl wrote: On #IX there are rumours about Junos version 10.3R2.11 being

Re: General Internet Instability

2011-11-07 Thread -Hammer-
I'm struggling to do the same. All the various Internet Health sites show(ed) some upticks in negative performance but I don't have any specifics. We are a Gomez customer and Gomez is showing issues In St. Louis (SAVVIS) and Philly (L3) that specifically impacts the availability of our

Re: Router and interface naming convention survey

2011-11-07 Thread Jennifer Rexford
Joe, I am doing a survey to see what naming conventions are used for routers and router interfaces as part of a measurement study On a related note, you might be interested in a study we did a few years ago about errors in naming router interfaces, where a router in one location has a name

Re: General Internet Instability

2011-11-07 Thread Richard Golodner
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 11:09 -0500, Todd Snyder wrote: Can anyone point to any authoritative updates about this? I think Jared's suggestion was about as close as your going to get for right now. Look at the size of the files he mentioned as compared to the average size of the others.

Re: General Internet Instability

2011-11-07 Thread Jared Mauch
On Nov 7, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Richard Golodner wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 11:09 -0500, Todd Snyder wrote: Can anyone point to any authoritative updates about this? I think Jared's suggestion was about as close as your going to get for right now. Look at the size of the files he

Re: General Internet Instability

2011-11-07 Thread Todd Snyder
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Richard Golodner rgolod...@infratection.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 11:09 -0500, Todd Snyder wrote: Can anyone point to any authoritative updates about this? I think Jared's suggestion was about as close as your going to get for right now.

RE: NANOG Digest, Vol 46, Issue 15

2011-11-07 Thread Steve Dispensa
Level 3 was down in KC, Chi, and San Jose (at least) for us between about 8:10 and 8:40, plus or minus. Brought down SureWest in KC too. -Steve -Original Message- From: nanog-requ...@nanog.org [mailto:nanog-requ...@nanog.org] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:05 AM To:

Re: General Internet Instability

2011-11-07 Thread Leigh Porter
On 7 Nov 2011, at 16:41, Todd Snyder t...@hatescomputers.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Richard Golodner rgolod...@infratection.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 11:09 -0500, Todd Snyder wrote: Can anyone point to any authoritative updates about this? I think

Re: General Internet Instability

2011-11-07 Thread -Hammer-
So the file size was 30% higher implies that the number of updates is larger and therefore there is instability? I see the logic but if you scroll thru that page (the whole month of November) there are tons of 1M files. Trying to see what is different about today -Hammer- I was a normal

Re: TATA problems?

2011-11-07 Thread Pierre-Yves Maunier
2011/11/7 Kelly Kane ke...@hawknetworks.com On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 07:06, Tim Vollebregt t...@interworx.nl wrote: On #IX there are rumours about Junos version 10.3R2.11 being core dumped and rebooted, which makes sense. Perhaps related to Juniper PSN-2011-08-327? Did the whole router

mtu question. more should be better, right?

2011-11-07 Thread Deric Kwok
Hi all When I setup the server mtu as 9100. why I have to configure the switch mtu 9300 to make it working? What this extra 200 bytes is for what purpose? ls it standard? What is disadvantage of setting our all internal networks (host / equipment) mtu more than 1500? Thank you for your advice.

Re: General Internet Instability

2011-11-07 Thread Jared Mauch
On Nov 7, 2011, at 11:41 AM, -Hammer- wrote: So the file size was 30% higher implies that the number of updates is larger and therefore there is instability? I see the logic but if you scroll thru that page (the whole month of November) there are tons of 1M files. Trying to see what is

Re: General Internet Instability

2011-11-07 Thread -Hammer-
Thank you. This is somewhat of a learning opportunity for me. I hit all the generic Internet health sites and I understand that there IS an issue. Now I'm getting to learn how you guys attempt to understand WHY we had an issue. But my point is the same. If this is the case than the entire

Re: General Internet Instability

2011-11-07 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 11/7/11 08:37 , Jared Mauch wrote: On Nov 7, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Richard Golodner wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 11:09 -0500, Todd Snyder wrote: Can anyone point to any authoritative updates about this? I think Jared's suggestion was about as close as your going to get for right

real data [Re: General Internet Instability]

2011-11-07 Thread Jared Mauch
Here's some real data for those interested. It seems a quick view seems many TATA - Level3 and TATA - GBLX sets of instability. Combined with the overall update levels seen over that 30 minutes, we saw ~1.566M updates at route views. Compared with the 24h prior (2011.11.06 14:15 as

Re: mtu question. more should be better, right?

2011-11-07 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 7 Nov 2011, at 17:45 , Deric Kwok wrote: When I setup the server mtu as 9100. why I have to configure the switch mtu 9300 to make it working? What this extra 200 bytes is for what purpose? ls it standard? To avoid problems you really want to set the MTU of all your IP devices on the same

Re: real data [Re: General Internet Instability]

2011-11-07 Thread -Hammer-
Jared, This is good stuff and I'm understanding how you interpret the data. So this confirms what we are seeing. How do we take this towards a root cause? Mash it with the Juniper threads and see where it goes? -Hammer- I was a normal American nerd -Jack Herer On 11/07/2011 11:01 AM,

Re: General Internet Instability

2011-11-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Leigh Porter leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com Just blame Shub Internet.. Oh no, I've said it now! Nah; Brad took down everything but the webserver years ago. :-) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink

Re: mtu question. more should be better, right?

2011-11-07 Thread David Newman
On 11/7/11 8:45 AM, Deric Kwok wrote: When I setup the server mtu as 9100. why I have to configure the switch mtu 9300 to make it working? What this extra 200 bytes is for what purpose? ls it standard? MTUs above 2000 bytes are nonstandard. The most recent Ethernet spec, 802.3-2008, defines

RE: TATA problems?

2011-11-07 Thread John van Oppen
We saw several customers go away this morning as well. Our network itself is cisco so we did not see anything directly. John van Oppen @ AS11404. -Original Message- From: Tom Hill [mailto:t...@ninjabadger.net] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:09 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re:

RE: General Internet Instability

2011-11-07 Thread Erik Bais
I just got pointed towards the following : https://twitter.com/#!/JuniperNetworks/status/133637820081389568 And a (re)post on Pastbin : http://pastebin.com/HBWiH92j Juniper Networks replied to my post on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/erikbais/status/133641575585677312 That they are

Re: real data

2011-11-07 Thread Robert Mathews (OSIA)
On 11/7/2011 12:01 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: . It seems a quick view seems many TATA - Level3 and TATA - GBLX sets of instability. Combined with the overall update levels seen over that 30 minutes, we saw ~1.566M updates at route views. Compared with the 24h prior (2011.11.06 14:15 as

Re: TATA problems?

2011-11-07 Thread Leigh Porter
Any thoughts on just how wide read this was? Did every Juniper that receives Internet BGP updates with the affected software break? Or did it die out quite quickly? -- Leigh On 7 Nov 2011, at 19:55, John van Oppen jvanop...@spectrumnet.us wrote: We saw several customers go away this

Re: TATA problems?

2011-11-07 Thread -Hammer-
This was posted on pastebin earlier today in case it helps. 1. View Bulletin PSN-2011-08-327 2. Title MX Series MPC crash in Ktree::createFourWayNode after BGP UPDATE 3. Products Affected This issue can affect any MX Series router with port concentrators based on the Trio chipset --

Re: IPv6 beta support for Android phones

2011-11-07 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2011-11-07, Leigh Porter leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com wrote: LTE does not have the dual attachment problem since there is the concept of having v4 and v6 in one attachment, but it does not change the fact that there are not enough IPv4 addresses to go around, especially from a strategic

Re: Cell-based OOB management devices

2011-11-07 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Nov 6, 2011 10:15 PM, David Hubbard dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com wrote: Hi all, I am looking at cellular-based devices as a higher speed alternative to dial-up backup access methods for out of band management during emergencies. I've used the Digi devices for Clearwire site OOB

Re: Cell-based OOB management devices

2011-11-07 Thread Edward Salonia
I would look into Uplogix. I've seen them demo their products at Cisco Live a couple of times and they seem very good. - You can connect a cellular modem to them. - They can store backup device configs. - They can store IOS images. - They can even xmodem an image to a device if it gets stuck in

RE: Cell-based OOB management devices

2011-11-07 Thread ebarrios

Re: [outages] Time Warner Cable outage

2011-11-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Dustin Rhodes drho...@fiberutilities.com Sounded like someone was broadcasting a BGP route with an invalid attribute and caused BGP session restarts or Core Dumps/crashes on any Juniper router running version 10.4 Well, it *is* getting on towards

Re: [outages] More notes

2011-11-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Jonathan Lassoff j...@thejof.com tangential sidenote It's too bad that Junipers bugs aren't listed publicly. For clueful network operations, having this information available to them could have enabled them to properly weigh the risk of evaluating and

XO blocking individual IP's

2011-11-07 Thread clayton
I'm hoping someone has had the same experiences, and is further toward a resolution on this than I am. About 6 months ago, we noticed that XO was blackholing one specific IP out of a /24. Traces to that IP stopped on XO's network, traces to anything else out of the block went through fine. XO

Re: XO blocking individual IP's

2011-11-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: clay...@haydel.org There have several more cases like this, and XO has not been forthcoming with information. We're either looking to be exempted from this filtering or at least get a detailed description of how the system works. I'm not sure how they think

Re: XO blocking individual IP's

2011-11-07 Thread clayton
transit provider. Is XO the end-access provider for either you or the destination site? Or are both of those on some other connection, and XO is a bystander along the way? We're a direct customer. The IP's that I've seen them block have been both on our network and on remote networks, so I

Re: [outages] More notes

2011-11-07 Thread brian nikell
Actually, Juniper does disclose code bugs. Though not always to the public at first, importantly to Juniper customers. Juniper had advised all of their customers last August of this bug, however Level3 chose to continue running it on their peer routers. Thus if Level3 and its clue(full) management

RE: XO blocking individual IP's

2011-11-07 Thread Blake T. Pfankuch
Oh yes! Good lord I about went insane with this. I was working with a customer single homed to cBeyond. I spent 3 hours on the phone with cBeyond to figure out what was going on, it looks like a broken route. Come to find out it was an XO security null. The engineer on the phone from

IPv6World:Asia - Deployment Experience with IPv6

2011-11-07 Thread Joly MacFie
For any of you who are working late, we are just about to start (2am-4am EST) a live webcast of a Deployment Experience with IPv6 event from Hong Kong. Fred Baker is the keynote speaker. Webcast: http://www.livestream.com/internetsocietychapters/ More info: http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=2630 --