Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Seth Mos
On 9-11-2011 0:06, Jones, Barry wrote: Hello all. I am potentially looking at firewall products and wanted suggestions as to the easiest firewalls to install, configure and maintain? I have a few small networks ( 50 nodes at one site, 50 odd at another, and maybe 20 at another. I have

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Tom Hill
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 09:13 +0100, Seth Mos wrote: I am biased because I am a pfSense developer. pfSense is a free open source FreeBSD based firewall with the pf packet filter. http://www.pfsense.org I'm a very happy user of m0n0wall and I know pfSense is often seen as the more 'grown up'

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Seth Mos
On 9-11-2011 11:07, Tom Hill wrote: On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 09:13 +0100, Seth Mos wrote: I am biased because I am a pfSense developer. pfSense is a free open source FreeBSD based firewall with the pf packet filter. http://www.pfsense.org I'm a very happy user of m0n0wall and I know pfSense

Re: where was my white knight....

2011-11-09 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 09/11/2011 03:14, Randy Bush wrote: once again, o when you have no connection to a cache or no covering roa for a a prefix, the result is specified as NotFound o we recommend you route on NotFound so the result is the same as today. Well no, not really because when the cache

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Tom Hill
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 12:01 +0100, Seth Mos wrote: That is correct, it is in the 2.1 branch. Our code has diverged a lot from m0n0wall where it came from so porting it was not easy. Instead I wrote the code from scratch. I wrote the IPv6 code in pfSense 2.1 for the last year and I've been

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Richard Kulawiec
You will find it very difficult to beat pf on OpenBSD for efficiency, features, flexibility, robustness, and security. Maintenance is very easy: edit a configuration file, reload, done. ---rsk

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Alex Nderitu
On 11/09/2011 03:22 PM, Richard Kulawiec wrote: You will find it very difficult to beat pf on OpenBSD for efficiency, features, flexibility, robustness, and security. Maintenance is very easy: edit a configuration file, reload, done. ---rsk An important feature lacking for now as far as I

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Joe Greco
On 11/09/2011 03:22 PM, Richard Kulawiec wrote: You will find it very difficult to beat pf on OpenBSD for efficiency, features, flexibility, robustness, and security. Maintenance is very easy: edit a configuration file, reload, done. An important feature lacking for now as far as I know

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Richard Kulawiec
On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 03:32:45PM +0300, Alex Nderitu wrote: An important feature lacking for now as far as I know is content/web filtering especially for corporates wishing to block inappropriate/time wasting content like facebook. 1. That's not a firewall function. That's a censorship

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 09/11/2011 12:22, Richard Kulawiec wrote: You will find it very difficult to beat pf on OpenBSD for efficiency, features, flexibility, robustness, and security. Maintenance is very easy: edit a configuration file, reload, done. There are several areas where pf falls down. One is

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Joe Greco
On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 03:32:45PM +0300, Alex Nderitu wrote: An important feature lacking for now as far as I know is content/web filtering especially for corporates wishing to block inappropriate/time wasting content like facebook. 1. That's not a firewall function. That's a

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread -Hammer-
I think that firewall/censorship is all semantics. The real question is the scale of the environment and the culture of your shop and areas of ownership. I work in a large enterprise. Combining functions such as L3 firewalling with content filtering with url filtering with XXX can be

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread -Hammer-
OH yeah! MANAGEMENT: If you have a few FWs and you manage them independently life is grand. But what if you have 20? 50? 100? and if 30-40 percent of the policy is the same? Cisco: NOTHING. Don't let them lie to you. CheckPoint: Provider 1 and SmartManager. Juniper: Not sure. BSD/PFSense:

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Gregory Croft
Hi, I'm at a smaller company that wanted not only firewall capabilities but application level filtering. We went with the Palo Alto Networks. Story is the Palo Alto founder was formerly of Netscreen/Juniper. Anyhow. We've not had any issues with the PA500's that we use in our environment. They

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: On 09/11/2011 12:22, Richard Kulawiec wrote: You will find it very difficult to beat pf on OpenBSD for efficiency, features, flexibility, robustness, and security.  Maintenance is very easy: edit a configuration file, reload,

ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week)

2011-11-09 Thread John Curran
NANOG Community - There is an Draft Policy for Inter-RIR Transfers presently in extended Last Call in the ARIN Policy Development Process. The Last Call will run for one more week, and allows an opportunity for anyone in the Internet community to provide feedback regarding this

Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week)

2011-11-09 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 03:33:04PM +, John Curran wrote: There is an Draft Policy for Inter-RIR Transfers presently in extended Last Call in the ARIN Policy Development Process. The Last Call will run for one more week, and allows an opportunity for

Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week)

2011-11-09 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 10:33 AM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) met on 14 October 2011 and decided to send an amended version of the following draft policy to an extended last call:  ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers Hi folks, There has been some

Comcast IPv6 Update

2011-11-09 Thread Brzozowski, John
Update from http://www.comcast6.net IPv6 Pilot Market Deployment Begins Wednesday, November 9, 2011 Comcast has started our first pilot market deployment of IPv6 in limited areas of California and Colorado. This first phase supports directly connected CPE, where a single computer is directly

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2011-11-09 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2011-11-09 17:32 , Brzozowski, John wrote: Update from http://www.comcast6.net IPv6 Pilot Market Deployment Begins Wednesday, November 9, 2011 Comcast has started our first pilot market deployment of IPv6... Congrats! One step closer to full deployment! Greets, Jeroen

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2011-11-09 Thread Steve Clark
On 11/09/2011 11:40 AM, Jeroen Massar wrote: On 2011-11-09 17:32 , Brzozowski, John wrote: Update from http://www.comcast6.net IPv6 Pilot Market Deployment Begins Wednesday, November 9, 2011 Comcast has started our first pilot market deployment of IPv6... Congrats! One step closer to full

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2011-11-09 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org wrote: On 2011-11-09 17:32 , Brzozowski, John wrote: Update from http://www.comcast6.net IPv6 Pilot Market Deployment Begins Wednesday, November 9, 2011 Comcast has started our first pilot market deployment of IPv6... Congrats!

RE: Comcast IPv6 Update

2011-11-09 Thread Blake T. Pfankuch
This appears directed at the Home market. Any word on the Business Class market even as a /128? -Original Message- From: Brzozowski, John [mailto:john_brzozow...@cable.comcast.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:33 AM To: NANOG Subject: Comcast IPv6 Update Update from

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2011-11-09 Thread Brzozowski, John
This is not all we are pursuing, it is part of our incremental enablement and deployment. We have a non-trivial population of users that are directly connected versus using a home router. If you notice we also mention that we will soon be sharing information about customer home gateway plans.

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2011-11-09 Thread Brzozowski, John
:) = John Jason Brzozowski Comcast Cable e) mailto:john_brzozow...@cable.comcast.com o) 609-377-6594 m) 484-962-0060 w) http://www.comcast6.net = On 11/9/11 11:49 AM, Cameron Byrne cb.li...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2011-11-09 Thread Livingood, Jason
On 11/9/11 11:54 AM, Blake T. Pfankuch bl...@pfankuch.me wrote: This appears directed at the Home market. Any word on the Business Class market even as a /128? Business Class is coming later. It won't hurt to contact the Business Class sales number and ask about IPv6 (and tell them to escalate

Re: Logs Bank

2011-11-09 Thread Matthew Walster
On 8 November 2011 19:59, joshua.kl...@gmail.com wrote: If I may ask, is there any OSS that can serve as a log bank or log server, snip Do you mean OSS, or do you mean free? /bugbear M

RE: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
An important feature lacking for now as far as I know is content/web filtering especially for corporates wishing to block inappropriate/time wasting content like facebook. Addition of this would place it a par with the best like Sonicwall and Fortinet. At a previous employer, we utilized a

RE: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Dennis Burgess
Another alternative is RouterOS/MikroTik. Plenty of high end solutions and low end. --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website:

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 08:00:01 CST, Joe Greco said: On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 03:32:45PM +0300, Alex Nderitu wrote: An important feature lacking for now as far as I know is content/web filtering especially for corporates wishing to block inappropriate/time wasting content like facebook.

Anyone seen this kind of problem? SIP traffic not getting to destination but traceroute does

2011-11-09 Thread Jay Nakamura
We ran into a strange situation yesterday that I am still trying to figure out. We have many VoIP customers but yesterday suddenly select few of them couldn't reach the SIP provider's network from our network. I could traceroute to the SIP providers server from the affected clients' IP just

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 09/11/2011 15:18, Jonathan Lassoff wrote: I've found that this works decently well, via pfsync. I meant config sync, not state sync. Nick

Re: Anyone seen this kind of problem? SIP traffic not getting to destination but traceroute does

2011-11-09 Thread Sean Harlow
I can't say I have a specific answer to your question, but yesterday I was seeing major packet loss on outbound audio from all my VoIP customers using Qwest and going in to servers on L3. It's entirely possible that SIP was also being lost, just the audio was the more notable and pressing

RE: Anyone seen this kind of problem? SIP traffic not getting to destination but traceroute does

2011-11-09 Thread Preston Parcell
What was the timeframe for your issues? Just curious since we saw some strangeness last night. Preston -Original Message- From: Sean Harlow [mailto:s...@seanharlow.info] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:00 PM To: Jay Nakamura Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Anyone seen this kind of

RE: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
I meant config sync, not state sync. I have multiple deployments of the config synchronization working just fine. :)

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread C. Jon Larsen
On Wed, 9 Nov 2011, Nick Hilliard wrote: On 09/11/2011 15:18, Jonathan Lassoff wrote: I've found that this works decently well, via pfsync. I meant config sync, not state sync. put the main portion of the conf in subversion as an include file and factor out local differences in the

Re: Anyone seen this kind of problem? SIP traffic not getting to destination but traceroute does

2011-11-09 Thread Jay Nakamura
It started sometime Tuesday morning. I have yet to set the route back to Qwest. I am going to do that tonight and test it. On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Preston Parcell preston.parc...@viawest.com wrote: What was the timeframe for your issues? Just curious since we saw some strangeness

RE: Performance Issues - PTR Records

2011-11-09 Thread Leo Vegoda
Mark Andrew wrote: [...] That said though the PTR-forward-PTR check is a proper check and a really great way to figure out if the source SMTP host was actually set up with at least some admin doing it the right way. If they can't be bothered to set that up, why should you bother to

Re: Anyone seen this kind of problem? SIP traffic not getting to destination but traceroute does

2011-11-09 Thread Sean Harlow
I saw the problems starting around 09:30 Eastern and continuing past 17:00. Looking through ticket notes I had missed when writing my previous reply it seems that a fix was confirmed around 22:30 which involved a faulty piece of equipment being replaced. I do not have specifics on what went

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Eduardo Schoedler
How about Endian Firewalls ? -- Eduardo Schoedler Sent via iPhone Em 09/11/2011, às 16:16, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net escreveu: Another alternative is RouterOS/MikroTik. Plenty of high end solutions and low end. ---

Re: Anyone seen this kind of problem? SIP traffic not getting to destination but traceroute does

2011-11-09 Thread Owen Roth
Yes! Yesterday, from 9AM-10AM PST, I had a Qwest client transiting Level3 where traceroutes were working, but sip registrations were not. They were leaving fine, but not being received on the destination side. Then at 10AM-2PM PST, same client, registrations and invites were now working, but

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Joe Greco
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 08:00:01 CST, Joe Greco said: On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 03:32:45PM +0300, Alex Nderitu wrote: An important feature lacking for now as far as I know is content/web filtering especially for corporates wishing to block inappropriate/time wasting content like

Re: Anyone seen this kind of problem? SIP traffic not getting to destination but traceroute does

2011-11-09 Thread Jeff Wheeler
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Jay Nakamura zeusda...@gmail.com wrote: So my questions is, is it possible there is some kind of filter at Qwest or Level 3 that is dropping traffic only for udp 5060 for select few IPs?  That's the only explanation I can come up with other than I ran into

Re: Firewalls - Ease of Use and Maintenance?

2011-11-09 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 09/11/2011 19:07, C. Jon Larsen wrote: put the main portion of the conf in subversion as an include file and factor out local differences in the configs with macros that are defined in pf.conf Easy. As I said, it's not a pf problem. Commercial firewalls will do all this sort of thing off

Re: Anyone seen this kind of problem? SIP traffic not getting to destination but traceroute does

2011-11-09 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Jeff Wheeler j...@inconcepts.biz On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Jay Nakamura zeusda...@gmail.com wrote: So my questions is, is it possible there is some kind of filter at Qwest or Level 3 that is dropping traffic only for udp 5060 for select few IPs?

Re: Anyone seen this kind of problem? SIP traffic not getting to destination but traceroute does

2011-11-09 Thread Jared Mauch
On Nov 9, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote: On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Jay Nakamura zeusda...@gmail.com wrote: So my questions is, is it possible there is some kind of filter at Qwest or Level 3 that is dropping traffic only for udp 5060 for select few IPs? That's the only

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2011-11-09 Thread Owen DeLong
This is excellent news, John and I encourage you and the folks at Comcast to keep up the good work. I wait with baited breath for the day I can move my business class connection to IPv6. Owen On Nov 9, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Brzozowski, John wrote: This is not all we are pursuing, it is part of

Re: Performance Issues - PTR Records

2011-11-09 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 41f6c547ea49ec46b4ee1eb2bc2f341849f82d4...@exvpmbx100-1.exc.icann.o rg, Leo Vegoda writes: Mark Andrew wrote: [...] That said though the PTR-forward-PTR check is a proper check and a really great way to figure out if the source SMTP host was actually set up with at least

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2011-11-09 Thread Jared Mauch
On Nov 9, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Livingood, Jason wrote: On 11/9/11 11:54 AM, Blake T. Pfankuch bl...@pfankuch.me wrote: This appears directed at the Home market. Any word on the Business Class market even as a /128? Business Class is coming later. It won't hurt to contact the Business

Re: Performance Issues - PTR Records

2011-11-09 Thread Blake Hudson
Larry Blunk wrote the following on 11/3/2011 12:47 PM: On 11/02/2011 05:57 PM, Matt Chung wrote: I work for a regional ISP and very recently there has been an influx of calls reporting slowness when accessing certain websites (i.e google.com/voice/b) via HTTP. After performing a tcpdump and

Re: Anyone seen this kind of problem? SIP traffic not getting to destination but traceroute does

2011-11-09 Thread Blake Hudson
Jay Nakamura wrote the following on 11/9/2011 12:47 PM: We ran into a strange situation yesterday that I am still trying to figure out. We have many VoIP customers but yesterday suddenly select few of them couldn't reach the SIP provider's network from our network. I could traceroute to the

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2011-11-09 Thread Paul Graydon
On 11/09/2011 06:32 AM, Brzozowski, John wrote: Update from http://www.comcast6.net IPv6 Pilot Market Deployment Begins Wednesday, November 9, 2011 Comcast has started our first pilot market deployment of IPv6 in limited areas of California and Colorado. This first phase supports directly

Re: Anyone seen this kind of problem? SIP traffic not getting to destination but traceroute does

2011-11-09 Thread Michael Ulitskiy
It may also be related to QoS policy inside the carriers. Some time ago I've seen exactly the same symptoms with Verizon when sip signaling was sent marked as EF. Remarking it down to CS1 or CS3 (don't remember exactly) solved the problem. Michael On Wednesday 09 November 2011 13:47:37 Jay

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2011-11-09 Thread Jim Burwell
On 11/9/2011 08:58, Livingood, Jason wrote: On 11/9/11 11:54 AM, Blake T. Pfankuchbl...@pfankuch.me wrote: This appears directed at the Home market. Any word on the Business Class market even as a /128? Business Class is coming later. It won't hurt to contact the Business Class sales

Re: Anyone seen this kind of problem? SIP traffic not getting to destination but traceroute does

2011-11-09 Thread Jay Nakamura
I just removed the route to our other provider and traffic is going out Qwest again. The problem seems to be gone now. As others had similar problems during the same period using Qwest, it must have been some strange issue with Qwest. On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Jay Nakamura

Re: Anyone seen this kind of problem? SIP traffic not getting to destination but traceroute does

2011-11-09 Thread Jack Bates
On 11/9/2011 4:45 PM, Blake Hudson wrote: I'm not sure how an IP transit provider (who should be providing routing/switching) screws up transport layer connections - looks like they are arbitrarily managing client data. Just my $0.02. With today's routers, all sorts of weird things can go

Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call (expires in one week)

2011-11-09 Thread Randy Bush
1) The concept of Inter-RIR transfers is a bad idea. Insuring compatible rules between RIR's will always be difficult at best. no need to coordinate rules/policies at all. what we suggested in a/p three years back was simple. seller must abide by seller's local selling policy and