On 29 Dec 2011, at 0:16 , Doug Barton wrote:
On 12/28/2011 03:13, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
However, this has two issues. First, with RAs there are no risks that
incorrect default information is propagated because the default
gateway itself broadcasts its presence.
Unless you have a
Ray Soucy wrote:
But that is only the case if you let customers have a PI prefix (which
I think is really required in a purist end-to-end model, but for the
sake of argument...).
Multihoming by routing, by the intermediate systems, is against
the end to end principle, which is why it does not
Actually an a Cisco presentation on Nexus 7k I asked whether it's possible to
transport the FCoE over let's say EoMPLS or VPLS and did not get a straight
answer though that was half a year ago
-but it would be really cool to connect hard-drives directly over continents
adam
-Original
I am php/javascript programmer.
The web used to be request/reply. With the request small (but not
small enough), and the reply long.
But the time for permanent connections is comming. Links from clients
to server that are permanent. Or look like that in the application
layer.
On one sense,
Well, it seems now you've also added the requirement that we also
dramatically re-write all software that makes use of networking.
Seemingly for the sake of never admitting that you can be wrong.
You seem to think that the OSI model is this nice and clean model that
cleanly separates everything
What we really need is a new method of sending data. The fact that I
will never be able to send something from Maine to California in less
than 15 ms is not acceptable.
The speed of light is such a drag.
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Tei oscar.vi...@gmail.com wrote:
I am php/javascript
Well hopefully we won't need to worry about the speed of light anymore
Just recently I heard about the experiments with quantum nonlocality
no one seem to understand how it happens but for me it's enough it works
Basically when 2 photons or electrons are emitted form the same source -they
are
Are you telling me that the 1,100 miles of fiber I just had run is
already obsolete? Someone is going to get fired over this.
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Vitkovsky, Adam
avitkov...@emea.att.com wrote:
Well hopefully we won't need to worry about the speed of light anymore
Just recently I
In the DHCP v6 thread, there was some discussion of
mobility and its IP layer consequences. As various people
pointed out, cellular networks basically handle this in the
RAN (Radio Access Network) and therefore at layer 2,
transparently (well, as much as things ever are) for IP
purposes. It
On Dec 30, 2011 9:16 AM, Alexander Harrowell a.harrow...@gmail.com
wrote:
In the DHCP v6 thread, there was some discussion of
mobility and its IP layer consequences. As various people
pointed out, cellular networks basically handle this in the
RAN (Radio Access Network) and therefore at layer
Article by John Cramer says:
At the AQRTP Workshop we considered the question of whether quantum nonlocality
was a possible medium for FTL communication. In the context of standard quantum
mechanics there is good reason for believing that it is not. Eberhard has
proved a theorem demonstrating
- Original Message -
From: Adam Vitkovsky avitkov...@emea.att.com
Article by John Cramer says:
At the AQRTP Workshop we considered the question of whether quantum
nonlocality was a possible medium for FTL communication. In the
context of standard quantum mechanics there is good
On Dec 30, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Tei wrote:
I am not dumb, I know turning webpages into applications make
webpages to fragile. But I am scared of javascripts. Javascript is
just too dawmn usefull now, browsers too broken (mostly IE), and
Javascript is like a superhero that fix all. The web is
On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:34 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
The state of the industry is the support of nomadic mobility from cellular to
/ from Wi-Fi , there is nearly no support of mobile IP that I have seen.
Concur. This .pdf preso may also be of interest:
From: Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net
(I'm hoping for some good snow storms in the midwest/north east/NoVA
area to put some good stresses on the network for a week or so this
winter that can be measured/observed).
In DC and NoVA, the network which is most taxed by snow storms is the
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Ray Soucy r...@maine.edu wrote:
What we really need is a new method of sending data. The fact that I
will never be able to send something from Maine to California in less
than 15 ms is not acceptable.
The speed of light is such a drag.
I propose that
Steven Bellovin wrote:
VRRP? The Router Discovery Protocol (RFC 1256). But given
how much more reliable routers are today than in 1984, I'm
not convinced it's that necessary these days.
VRRP is an absolutely essential protocol in today's Internet. We use
it on every non-bgp customer port.
VRRP is still useful, and for those who find it useful it has been
extended to IPv6 [RFC5798]. Vendors, such as Cisco, have already
begun shipping functional implementations as well it would seem.
There are certainly pieces of IPv6 that will need refinement (and we
will likely see that happen
On 12/29/2011 9:06 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
(you forgot to change subj:)
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Cameron Byrnecb.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Next topic, ethernet is too chaotic and inefficient to deploy and support
mission critical applications in LAN or WAN or data center.
yes,
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On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 14:00 +0100, Vitkovsky, Adam wrote:
Well hopefully we won't need to worry about the speed of light anymore
Nope. The laws of physics as currently understood prohibit sending information
faster than the speed of light. (The reality of FTL neutrino thingie is still
too early
On 12/30/11 08:47 , Kevin Loch wrote:
It is very common to have different routers (routers, firewalls or
load balancers) on the same vlan with different functions in hosting
environments. It is also sometimes necessary to have multiple default
gateways on the same vlan for load balancing or
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:40:35 PST, Vadim Antonov said:
faster than the speed of light. (The reality of FTL neutrino thingie is still
too early to tell).
Especially if you actually *read* the actual journal article rather than the
pop-sci interpretation of it, it basically says our experiment had
On 29 Dec 2011, at 13:46 , Masataka Ohta wrote:
we must assume MTU of 1280B. But, as IPv6 extension headers can
be as lengthy as 1000B or 2000B, no applications are guaranteed
to work over IPv6.
As IP is an unreliable datagram service, there are no guarantees, period.
The presence of
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Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072
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Multihoming with multiple addresses works at transport/application
layer over existing IPv4 and IPv6.
May be there is some light with Multipath TCP:
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/75/slides/mptcp-0.pdf
http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mptcp/charter/
If you can live without UDP and other issues
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2011
From: Vitkovsky, Adam avitkov...@emea.att.com
To: Ray Soucy r...@maine.edu, Tei oscar.vi...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:00:16 +0100
Subject: RE: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!
Cc:
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From: Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com
Of course there are still these issues with probabilities at quantum
level
I *strongy* recommend that anyone pursuing this subject read Dr.
Asimov's essays on resublimated thiotimoline.
As well as Spider
From: Vitkovsky, Adam avitkov...@emea.att.com
-also there some attempts to actually send the information 50 micro sec
back in time
Please don't let the high-frequency stock traders get a hold of this.
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