Re: IPv6 day and tunnels

2012-06-19 Thread Masataka Ohta
Templin, Fred L wrote: Not necessarily, as IPv4 can take care of itself and IPv6 is hopeless. IPv4 can take care of it how - with broken PMTUD or As you know, RFC1191 style PMTUD is broken both for IPv4 and IPv6. with broken fragmentation/reassembly? Fragmentation is fine, especially

Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?)

2012-06-19 Thread Masataka Ohta
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: And you tell the rest of the world that customer A's SMTP port is on 125, and B's is on 225, and Z's is up at 2097, how? How? In draft-ohta-e2e-nat-00.txt, I already wrote: A server port number different from well known ones may be specified through

Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?)

2012-06-19 Thread Masataka Ohta
Owen DeLong wrote: Showing that you don't actually understand what everyone else means when they say end-to-end. Where is your point only to demonstrate that you don't understand whatend to end means? No carrier is going to implement that for obvious reasons. Besides, that's not

Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?)

2012-06-19 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
I think, the length of Interface ID be 64 is so mostly because IEEE works now with 64bit EUI identifiers (instead of older 48bit MAC addresses). I.e. compatibility between IEEE and IETF IPv6 would be the main reason for this Interface ID to be 64. And this is so, even though there are IEEE

Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?)

2012-06-19 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Le 07/06/2012 22:27, Ricky Beam a écrit : On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:58:05 -0400, Chuck Church chuckchu...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know the reason /64 was proposed as the size for all L2 domains? There is one, and only one, reason for the ::/64 split: SLAAC. IPv6 is a classless addressing

RE: IPv6 day and tunnels

2012-06-19 Thread Templin, Fred L
-Original Message- From: Masataka Ohta [mailto:mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:10 AM To: Templin, Fred L Cc: Owen DeLong; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IPv6 day and tunnels Templin, Fred L wrote: Not necessarily, as IPv4 can take care of itself

Re: A's for www.xfinitytv.com

2012-06-19 Thread Brzozowski, John
Paul, Circling back here, you all set here? Should see the following over IPv6 and IPv4: xfinity.comcast.net xfinitytv.comcast.net John = John Jason Brzozowski Comcast Cable m) +1-609-377-6594 e) mailto:john_brzozow...@cable.comcast.com o)

NTT handing packets to Reliance (Flag Telecom) in California for BSNL block

2012-06-19 Thread Anurag Bhatia
Hello everyone, I was trying to understand reason for high latency between my BSNL (AS9829) connection and a specific Germany based server on M-Online. I can see forward path is correct but reverse path is: traceroute to 117.200.57.47 (117.200.57.X), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1

Re: NTT handing packets to Reliance (Flag Telecom) in California for BSNL block

2012-06-19 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Anurag Bhatia m...@anuragbhatia.com wrote: I wonder what exactly is different/wrong in case of BSNL block 117.200.48.0/20? Is BSNL selectively announcing it only from Reliance's California based router and not any other router in Europe? there's a fiber cut in

Re: NTT handing packets to Reliance (Flag Telecom) in California for BSNL block

2012-06-19 Thread Anurag Bhatia
Hello Christopher Thanks for pointing out SMW4 cut as reported here - http://www.renesys.com/blog/2012/06/smw4-break-on-south-asia.shtml As far as I see it is likely not linked to issue. I guess it is still some bad routing issue rather then impact of cable cut since I have seen similar

Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?)

2012-06-19 Thread Karl Auer
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 22:28 +0900, Masataka Ohta wrote: It is trivially: host - home UPnP NAT - Carrier UPnP NAT - Internet - Carrier UPnP NAT - home UPnP NAT - host Trivially? I think this looks much nicer: host - Internet - host The way it used to be before

RE: NTT handing packets to Reliance (Flag Telecom) in California for BSNL block

2012-06-19 Thread Drew Weaver
I have also noticed that traffic sourced in NYC destined for Qatar across NTT seems to now go from NYC - SJC - SNG and ends up being about 180+ms longer than just going over the atlantic. I've seen this a few times (only with NTT routes). Thanks, -Drew -Original Message- From: Anurag

Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?)

2012-06-19 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 19, 2012, at 8:44 AM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: I think, the length of Interface ID be 64 is so mostly because IEEE works now with 64bit EUI identifiers (instead of older 48bit MAC addresses). I.e. compatibility between IEEE and IETF IPv6 would be the main reason for this Interface

Re: NTT handing packets to Reliance (Flag Telecom) in California for BSNL block

2012-06-19 Thread Jared Mauch
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 06:42:33PM -0400, Drew Weaver wrote: I have also noticed that traffic sourced in NYC destined for Qatar across NTT seems to now go from NYC - SJC - SNG and ends up being about 180+ms longer than just going over the atlantic. I've seen some people in the middle

Re: A's for www.xfinitytv.com

2012-06-19 Thread Randy Bush
Circling back here, you all set here? Should see the following over IPv6 and IPv4: xfinity.comcast.net xfinitytv.comcast.net from tokyo rair.psg.com:/Users/randy ping6 xfinity.comcast.net PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) 2001:240:6a8::4034:839d:25d9:2418 -- 2001:240:bb8f:8000::d295:8725 16 bytes

Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?)

2012-06-19 Thread Masataka Ohta
Karl Auer wrote: host - home UPnP NAT - Carrier UPnP NAT - Internet - Carrier UPnP NAT - home UPnP NAT - host Trivially? I think this looks much nicer: host - Internet - host Yes, if only the Internet were uniform. However, compared to

solid v smart optics

2012-06-19 Thread ryanL
anyone have any opinions on the two subject vendors, with general regard to 10GE transceivers? SR multi-mode data center stuff for my application. appreciate on/off list replies! ryanL

Re: TW in ohio

2012-06-19 Thread Randy Carpenter
Nope. I signed up for the beta a long time ago, and have never heard anything about IPv6 on the residential network. My company is one of the first (if not *the* first) direct connect commercial customers that got IPv6 connectivity in Ohio. I only see a few other ASNs that are directly

Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?)

2012-06-19 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:21:11 +0900, Masataka Ohta said: Or, a NAT gateway may receive packets to certain ports and behave as an application gateway to end hosts, if request messages to the server contains information, such as domain names, which is the case with DNS, SMTP and

Time Warner / Road Runner

2012-06-19 Thread Shawn Marck
Can someone from Road Runner HoldCo LLC ( AS7843 http://bgp.he.net/AS7843 ) Please contact me offline? NOC Ticket #1718425 not getting any progress, packetloss to AS32421 affecting multiple mutual customers. Thank you, -- Shawn Marck shawn.ma...@blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net Black

Cisco Smartnet for 6509E Line Cards

2012-06-19 Thread david peahi
Can anyone comment on Cisco 6509E Smartnet chassis coverage? In the past, chassis has always meant, not just the passive chassis itself, but all of the components including supervisor cards, line cards, power supplies, fan trays, etc. Now it appears that Cisco is requiring Smartnet coverage on

Re: Cisco Smartnet for 6509E Line Cards

2012-06-19 Thread PC
I'd say hardware replacement is only a small benefit of smartnet, or I would have found it more economical to just stock spares a long time ago. You also received technical support in addition to software updates. In fact, IMHO, the greatest benefit is the access to Cisco development resources