Re: Are people still building SONET networks from scratch?

2012-09-09 Thread Jimmy Hess
On 9/8/12, Måns Nilsson mansa...@besserwisser.org wrote: Subject: Re: Are people still building SONET networks from scratch? Date: Just the fact that BFD had to be reinvented shows that there is ample reason to prefer the steady-train-of-frames-with-status of SONET/SDH over

Re: Are people still building SONET networks from scratch?

2012-09-09 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: Are people still building SONET networks from scratch? Date: Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 01:15:35AM -0500 Quoting Jimmy Hess (mysi...@gmail.com): On 9/8/12, Måns Nilsson mansa...@besserwisser.org wrote: Subject: Re: Are people still building SONET networks from scratch? Date: Just the

Re: Are people still building SONET networks from scratch?

2012-09-09 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, Måns Nilsson wrote: Still, the stupid f€%€/# that make prices for linecards made me go GE instead of OC48 for the most recent deployment. In Sweden, both vendors claim about 6 times as much, per megabit, for SDH line cards. The once-in-a-lifetime that happened here (took

Re: Are people still building SONET networks from scratch?

2012-09-09 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Will Orton w...@loopfree.net writes: I've considered using J's PE-4CHOC3-CE-SFP (OC3 emulated SAToP), then I could do it all with gig-e underneath. Does anyone make a cheaper OC3 circuit emulation module or box? Most likely the customer wouldn't believe such a thing is possible and we'd

Re: Are people still building SONET networks from scratch?

2012-09-09 Thread Dan Shechter
OT, what is the _expected_ latency on each hop/ADM in the SDH/SONET network? HTH, Dan #13685 (RS/Sec/SP) The CCIE troubleshooting blog: http://dans-net.com Bring order to your Private VLAN network: http://marathon-networks.com On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Robert E. Seastrom

Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query)

2012-09-09 Thread Masataka Ohta
Oliver wrote: You're basically redefining the term end-to-end transparency to suit your own Already in RFC3102, which restrict port number ranges, it is stated that: This document examines the general framework of Realm Specific IP (RSIP). RSIP is intended as a alternative to NAT