[liberationtech] The Hidden Internet of Iran: Private Address Allocations on a National Network

2012-10-02 Thread Eugen Leitl
Sounds just like CGN. - Forwarded message from Collin Anderson col...@averysmallbird.com - From: Collin Anderson col...@averysmallbird.com Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:06:34 -0400 To: liberationt...@lists.stanford.edu Subject: [liberationtech] The Hidden Internet of Iran: Private Address

Re: [liberationtech] The Hidden Internet of Iran: Private Address Allocations on a National Network

2012-10-02 Thread Randy Bush
Sounds just like CGN. at least one large iranian network build failed to get in the ripe/ncc open pool sale when the lights went out. randy

RE: Data Center Flooring

2012-10-02 Thread Alex Rubenstein
We have operated with several types of floor in four locations over the last 15 years (Raised, VCT, painted, and polished concrete). Personally, I like the look of the polished concrete the best. It's relatively cheap and easy to do. Epoxy and VCT tend to get hurt over time and require

Cost of fiber run between neighbouring office buildings

2012-10-02 Thread Hank Disuko
Hi folks, I wonder if I can tap into some knowledge on the list and ask for ballpark figures on how much it would normally cost to run 2 fiber cables between 2 adjacent office buildings. I have a quote from a contractor, and I want to make sure i'm not getting totally fleeced. The conduit

Re: Data Center Flooring

2012-10-02 Thread Mark Keymer
Thank you for the information, both on and off-list. It has been very helpful. Also it looks likes the current tiles are VCT so no Asbestos currently. Sincerely, Mark Keymer On 10/2/2012 4:36 AM, Alex Rubenstein wrote: We have operated with several types of floor in four locations over the

Re: Cost of fiber run between neighbouring office buildings

2012-10-02 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 02/10/2012 13:35, Hank Disuko wrote: - 2 x 6-Strand 50/125u multimode, Tight Buffered, Armoured, Laser Ultra-Fox Fiber cables - Distance of run is approx 520 meters For that length, go with single-mode. 10G-LR will happily run on 10km of SMF, but 10G-SR flakes out at ~300m even on OM3.

Re: Data Center Flooring

2012-10-02 Thread Andrew Latham
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Mark Keymer m...@viviotech.net wrote: Thank you for the information, both on and off-list. It has been very helpful. Also it looks likes the current tiles are VCT so no Asbestos currently. Sincerely, Mark Keymer On 10/2/2012 4:36 AM, Alex Rubenstein

Re: Cost of fiber run between neighbouring office buildings

2012-10-02 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Hank Disuko gourmetci...@hotmail.com I wonder if I can tap into some knowledge on the list and ask for ballpark figures on how much it would normally cost to run 2 fiber cables between 2 adjacent office buildings. I have a quote from a contractor, and I

Re: /. Terabit Ethernet is Dead, for Now

2012-10-02 Thread Greg Hankins
Several good presentations were given at the IEEE meeting in Geneva last week about why we should do 400 GbE and not TbE. You can find them here: http://www.ieee802.org/3/ad_hoc/hse/public/12_09/index.shtml . Greg -- Greg Hankins ghank...@mindspring.com

US government gets an F for IPv6 Internet make-over

2012-10-02 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols s...@vna1.com - From: Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols s...@vna1.com Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:24:36 -0400 To: ipv6-...@lists.cluenet.de Subject: US government gets an F for IPv6 Internet make-over Organization: Vaughan-Nichols Associates

Re: US government gets an F for IPv6 Internet make-over

2012-10-02 Thread Randy Bush
rair.psg.com:/Users/randy host leitl.org leitl.org has address 85.10.225.64 leitl.org mail is handled by 10 v64.ativel.com. rair.psg.com:/Users/randy host v64.ativel.com v64.ativel.com has address 85.10.225.64 v64.ativel.com mail is handled by 10 v64.ativel.com.ativel.com. time to stop

Re: So what's the deal with 10Gbase-T

2012-10-02 Thread Brian Loveland
Also, IBM G8364 (uses Broadcom Trident merchant silicon). I believe the Force10 S4810 (also Broadcom Trident) is only SFP+? Intel will force 10GBASE-T on all of us since they can make it backwards compatible with 1000BASE-T. I think this will make the technology take off over the next year or

Re: So what's the deal with 10Gbase-T

2012-10-02 Thread Brian Loveland
Sorry, that is IBM G8264T. G8316 is the 16x40G version. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Brian Loveland br...@aereo.com wrote: Also, IBM G8364 (uses Broadcom Trident merchant silicon). I believe the Force10 S4810 (also Broadcom Trident) is only SFP+? Intel will force 10GBASE-T on all of us

IP traffic trend analysis

2012-10-02 Thread groupstudytac groupstudytac
Hi All , What tool do you use in house for Trend anaylsis of Aggregate IP traffic or should i say what is the best way to carry out trend analysis of the aggregate IP traffic throughput in a carrier network. Rgds G

Re: IPv6 Ignorance

2012-10-02 Thread Bruce H McIntosh
On Sat, 2012-09-29 at 16:53 +1000, Jason Leschnik wrote: To address everything in the Universe wouldn't you then get stuck in some kinda of loop of having to address the matter that is used by the addresses... i.e. to address everything in the Universe you need more matter than the Universe?

[NANOG-announce] List ID changed for NANOG mail list

2012-10-02 Thread Randy Epstein
Greetings, A quick email to let folks know that we've changed the list ID to mailman.nanog.org. It was previously nanog.nanog.org. This notification is to alert you in case you need to modify your procmail filters. Regards, Randy Epstein NANOG CC Chair On behalf of the NANOG Communications

Re: Cost of fiber run between neighbouring office buildings

2012-10-02 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: On 02/10/2012 13:35, Hank Disuko wrote: - 2 x 6-Strand 50/125u multimode, Tight Buffered, Armoured, Laser Ultra-Fox Fiber cables - Distance of run is approx 520 meters For that length, go with single-mode. 10G-LR will

Re: So what's the deal with 10Gbase-T

2012-10-02 Thread Summers, William
We've been using IBM 10G switches (8124 and 8264) sfp varieties back when they were Blade Networks. Very good performance, cost, and support. The use of DACs/Twinax in our datacenters made our 10G overhaul budget work.

Re: US government gets an F for IPv6 Internet make-over

2012-10-02 Thread Joly MacFie
The ISOC Deploy 360 team has published some analysis at http://www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/blog/2012/09/with-september-30-deadline-looming-us-government-enables-ipv6-for-hundreds-of-websites/ which gives the USG top marks for effort. --

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-02 Thread Dan Luedtke
On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 19:31 +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote: Here's a visio diagram you can send them: http://www.foobar.org/~nick/bgp-network-diagram.vsd Is there a .png version of it somewhere? The whole thread made my day, I'm eager to see this diagram as well. I don't have this MS Visio thingy

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le mardi 02 octobre 2012 à 23:25 +0200, Dan Luedtke a écrit : On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 19:31 +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote: Here's a visio diagram you can send them: http://www.foobar.org/~nick/bgp-network-diagram.vsd Is there a .png version of it somewhere? The whole thread made my day, I'm

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-02 Thread Dan White
On 10/02/12 23:43 +0200, Michael Hallgren wrote: Le mardi 02 octobre 2012 à 23:25 +0200, Dan Luedtke a écrit : On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 19:31 +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote: Here's a visio diagram you can send them: http://www.foobar.org/~nick/bgp-network-diagram.vsd Is there a .png version of it

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-02 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor
On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Michael Hallgren wrote: Le mardi 02 octobre 2012 à 23:25 +0200, Dan Luedtke a écrit : On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 19:31 +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote: Here's a visio diagram you can send them: http://www.foobar.org/~nick/bgp-network-diagram.vsd Is there a .png version of it

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-02 Thread Mark Gauvin
Just be happy they didn't ask for power point Sent from my iPhone On 2012-10-02, at 5:03 PM, William F. Maton Sotomayor wma...@ottix.net wrote: On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Michael Hallgren wrote: Le mardi 02 octobre 2012 à 23:25 +0200, Dan Luedtke a écrit : On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 19:31 +0100, Nick

Internet routing table completeness monitoring?

2012-10-02 Thread ML
Has anyone put in place a method to identify if one their BGP peers suddenly withdraws X% of their prefixes? e.g I should expect ~420k prefixes in a complete[1] routing table from a transit peer today. If suddenly I'm only getting 390k prefixes I'd guess a major network was depeered or