On Thursday 20 December 2012 09:11:43 Saku Ytti wrote:
On (2012-12-20 03:24 +), Blake Pfankuch wrote:
I actually was doing research on this today as well. Anyone have any
experience with the solutions that implement VLAN management as well like
Gestioip?
I'm not remotely interested in
Hi,
Does anyone know a contact for doh.state.fl.us? I tried to contact them after
we received this interesting line of logfile:
554 5.7.1 46.31.52.10 (in 46.0.0.0/8) is blacklisted. received from
mx5201.doh.state.fl.us (74.174.235.12)
Thanks in advance,
David Hofstee
MailPlus B.V.
Thilo Bangert (thilo.bangert) writes:
Then in your provisioning tools, you'd request resource from specific pool
via restful API. Humand would never manually write RD/RT/IP/VLAN in the
tool or in the configs. And this type of system is vastly simpler than the
IPAMs I see listed, once you
On 20/12/2012 09:48, Phil Regnauld wrote:
I think many of these requirements would be met by Netdot...
netdot doesn't handle vrfs. This is one of its major drawbacks.
Nick
On (2012-12-20 10:30 +0100), Thilo Bangert wrote:
I'm not remotely interested in externally developed software for this
problem.
what do you mean. i'd be fine with an opensource project providing this.
If exactly what I want exist, of course I'd love to have it. But evaluating
options,
Saku Ytti (saku) writes:
If exactly what I want exist, of course I'd love to have it. But evaluating
options, working with them until you realise it does not work for you might
take more time to just build it in-house to fit your needs and integrate to
your existing systems.
On (2012-12-20 11:02 +0100), Phil Regnauld wrote:
I have same opinion for NMS also. Everything I see offered is terrible and
do not even solve easy-to-solve problems correctly.
Right, that's what's great about Open Source :D
The comment fully applies to system like HP OV or NNM or
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Joe Freeman joe.free...@terenine.com wrote:
I need a Yahoo contact if anyone is available.
I'm having issues with customers on 186.65.92.0/22 (ASN52379) out of Costa
Rica being able to reach Yahoo sites (www.yahoo.com/www.flickr.com) with
their web
Good morning all,
Is there a contact for the ATLBL DNSBL or Network Solutions e-mail that
could contact me off-list?
The ATLBL blacklist is causing mail delivery issues from 199.58.208.0/21
to all mail servers utilizing the ATLBL blacklist (most notably Network
Solutions). I have done some
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012, Alexander McMillen wrote:
Good morning all,
Is there a contact for the ATLBL DNSBL or Network Solutions e-mail that
could contact me off-list?
The ATLBL blacklist is causing mail delivery issues from 199.58.208.0/21
to all mail servers utilizing the ATLBL blacklist (most
On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 10:46 +0100, MailPlus| David Hofstee wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know a contact for doh.state.fl.us? I tried to contact them after
we received this interesting line of logfile:
Replied off-list
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This tool handle most of what you are asking for:
http://www.nocproject.org/
-Josh
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 2:30 AM, Thilo Bangert thilo.bang...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thursday 20 December 2012 09:11:43 Saku Ytti wrote:
On (2012-12-20 03:24 +), Blake Pfankuch wrote:
I actually was doing
I was looking at a Raspberry Pi board and was struck with how large the ethernet
connector is in comparison to the board as a whole. It strikes me: ethernet
connectors haven't changed that I'm aware in pretty much 25 years. Every other
cable has changed several times in that time frame. I imaging
It's not all about density. You *Must* have positive retention and
alignment. None of the USB nor firewire standards provide for positive
retention. eSATA does sort of in some variants but the connectors for USB
are especially delicate and easy to break off and destroy. There's the
size of the
On 2012-12-20 12:20, Michael Thomas wrote:
I was looking at a Raspberry Pi board and was struck with how large
the ethernet
connector is in comparison to the board as a whole. It strikes me:
ethernet
connectors haven't changed that I'm aware in pretty much 25 years.
Every other
cable has
On Dec 20, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Michael Thomas m...@mtcc.com wrote:
I was looking at a Raspberry Pi board and was struck with how large the
ethernet
connector is in comparison to the board as a whole. It strikes me: ethernet
connectors haven't changed that I'm aware in pretty much 25 years.
MRJ21 also helps density in some scenarios (like line card and patch panel
density), although ultimately you need to go back to RJ45 at some point.
-Vinny
-Original Message-
From: Michael Loftis [mailto:mlof...@wgops.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:29 PM
To: Michael Thomas
Cc:
I'm going to go by the Necessity is the mother of invention theory
here and say that it's basically because the need for a subcompact
ethernet connector hasn't shown up in masse yet. It was probably just
adopted because it's inexpensive, easy to install using tools already
out there in the telecom
If you've ever dealt with connections like micro-usb on a day-in-day out
plugging and unplugging at not quite head on connections, you know how bad
this can be on a hardwired connection. With very few exceptions, its very
difficult to have an rj45 go in any way but the way its designed to (well
On 20 December 2012 18:20, Michael Thomas m...@mtcc.com wrote
ethernet
connectors haven't changed that I'm aware in pretty much 25 years.
15-pin D-type AUI connectors with slide latches?
BNC for thinwire?
I do agree though, something more like mini-USB would be more appropriate
for home
They haven't changed for you:
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTzJPvwOhWoL2afxBdl7a-LmYYWwzgQNpiHSXr4ppIMgsZuWP6Oy1NVnrpN
Cheers,
Joshua
On Dec 20, 2012, at 10:29 AM,
tech-li...@packet-labs.netmailto:tech-li...@packet-labs.net
wrote:
On 2012-12-20 12:20, Michael Thomas wrote:
I was
On 12/20/2012 1:20 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:
I was looking at a Raspberry Pi board and was struck with how large
the ethernet
connector is in comparison to the board as a whole. It strikes me:
ethernet
connectors haven't changed that I'm aware in pretty much 25 years.
Every other
cable has
There is also the factor that cat5 is the principle desktop to network
connection. That being the case, there's very strong motivation for
ensuring that construction of that cable can be done very easily by
barely trained folks. Otherwise, laying out an office or cube farm
becomes considerably
On 12/20/2012 10:28 AM, Michael Loftis wrote:
It's not all about density. You *Must* have positive retention and alignment.
None of the USB nor firewire standards provide for positive retention. eSATA
does sort of in some variants but the connectors for USB are especially
delicate and easy
Once upon a time, Tom Morris bluen...@gmail.com said:
Boy would I ever love an ethernet connector that works like Apple's
MagSafe... or at least just kinda friction fits like USB... THOSE
TABS...
Please, NO! Connectors without a positive locking mechanism should just
die (and that includes
Because MA Bell is still alive and well and they still use them. They
have divine right to provide phone service, didn't you know?
Ralph Brandt
-Original Message-
From: Michael Thomas [mailto:m...@mtcc.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:20 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: why haven't
Is that the infamous Google Pluto switch?
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:38 AM, Joshua Goldbard j...@2600hz.com wrote:
They haven't changed for you:
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTzJPvwOhWoL2afxBdl7a-LmYYWwzgQNpiHSXr4ppIMgsZuWP6Oy1NVnrpN
Cheers,
Joshua
--
~Em
Love those friction fit connectors till they loosen and fall out
Ralph Brandt
-Original Message-
From: Tom Morris [mailto:bluen...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:34 PM
To: Michael Thomas
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: why haven't ethernet connectors changed?
I'm
Do note that the 8P8C on the Raspberry Pi has integrated magnetics
that you can't see without an x-ray imager. The space is not as wasted
as some might think.
Nothing stops a mfr from using whatever they want and providing a
dongle, but now they need board space for the transformers.
Sort of like saying why haven't we changed from RJ-48's for phones...old
habits die hard I guess! For the most part the RJ-45 connector is pretty
sturdy...remember those silly dongle cables that were used for pc-card
Ethernet adapters in laptops...those things would last about a month
before
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Michael Thomas m...@mtcc.com wrote:
So why, oh why, nanog the omniscient do we still use rj45's?
Because 8P8C connectors are well understood (both
physically, and electrically)? And inertia matters.
On some newer kit, Apple has removed the Ethernet port
Looking for a contact at NOVEC clueful about their DWDM infrastructure,
specifically about delivering TDM circuits from another MPLS provider.
Other providers' sales teams need not apply.
-cjp
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On 12/20/2012 1:20 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:
I was looking at a Raspberry Pi board and was struck with how large the
ethernet
connector is in comparison to the board as a whole. It strikes me:
ethernet
connectors haven't changed that I'm aware
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Michael Thomas m...@mtcc.com wrote:
So why, oh why, nanog the omniscient do we still use rj45's?
Because they *work*.
How much trouble do we have with USB or HDMI connectors coming loose?
Also, RJ45 is around the minimum size where you can hand-terminate a
On 12/20/2012 11:43 AM, William Herrin wrote:
Also, RJ45 is around the minimum size where you can hand-terminate a
cable. How would you go about quickly making a 36.5 foot 8 conductor
cable with, say, micro USB ends?
You're assuming that that's a universal requirement. Most people
in retail
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Andrew Gallo akg1...@gmail.com wrote:
The connector is to ubiquitous to change. Other vendors have addressed
the space issue by not supporting Ethernet, but forcing the use of a USB
dongle (Macbook Air comes to mind).
Thin net (50 ohm coax w/ BNC connectors)
On 12/20/2012 12:01 PM, William Herrin wrote:
On the other hand, I wonder if it would be worth asking the 802.3 committee look at defining a single-pair ethernet standard that would interoperate with a normal 4-pair switch. So, you'd have two conductors into some kind of 2P2C micro-RJ connector
On 12/20/2012 10:41 AM, Wayne E Bouchard wrote:
How many people here have gotten good enough that they can cut a
cable and pop connectors on each end in under 3 minutes? How many have
gotten good enough that the failure rate for *hand made* cables is sub
1:1000? Show me another connector type
I think that you might be describing the DIX connector retaining clamp.
Dave Edelman
On Dec 20, 2012, at 13:40, Howard C. Berkowitz h...@netcases.net wrote:
On 12/20/2012 1:20 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:
I was looking at a Raspberry Pi board and was struck with how large the
ethernet
Having (once) tapped thicknet, done a lot of thinnet termination and
cable cut debugging, and then used hubs and switches in 10BT and
onwards...
Having had one main standard (RJ45) has been a huge benefit to
advancing the state of networking to where we are today. But it is
probably worth
On 2012-12-20, at 12:13 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:
Do these
things need to have gig-e speeds? Probably not... for a lot even Bluetooth
speeds
are probably fine. But they do want to be really small and really inexpensive.
Then run RS-422 or RS-485 over a single twisted pair. You don't even
On 12/20/2012 01:13 PM, George Herbert wrote:
For some users, even more positive than RJ45 is warranted. I at times
work in and have a number of friends working in various aerospace and
rocketry areas, and RJ45's have been widely known to come loose under
acceleration.
I found that a spliced
On 20/12/2012 16:58, Josh Galvez wrote:
This tool handle most of what you are asking for:
http://www.nocproject.org/
hard to configure though. When it gets to the stage that it's relatively
easy to configure and has good quality documentation, it will be awesome.
Nick
-Josh
On Thu,
I'm shocked there hasn't been a whisper of amphenol. As an rf guy, I vote all
connectors move to sma or bnc. I can then justify the cost of a Walmart 10 foot
cable for 25 dollars.. And if we gold plate them, we can charge a premium. ;)
From my Galaxy Note II, please excuse any mistakes.
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012, Michael Thomas wrote:
I was looking at a Raspberry Pi board and was struck with how large the
ethernet
connector is in comparison to the board as a whole. It strikes me: ethernet
connectors haven't changed that I'm aware in pretty much 25 years. Every
other
cable has
There have been some smaller connectors but nothing with widespread
adoption. Tyco has something called RJ point 5 which uses standard UTP
cable but looks like a squashed RJ 45 and has double the density.
Wouldn't save much space on a Pi thigh its meant more for bulk
applications. From: Michael
There could also be some valid technical reasons:
1. The conductors really can't get any thinner. In fact, with Cat6A,
they're somewhat thicker than Cat5E.
2. I would also think that the conductors/pins really can't get much
closer together inside the connector shell, without cross-talk
NANOG Community,
Just a reminder that the upcoming NANOG in Orlando, FL will be our first
Monday to Wednesday program, beginning with tutorials on Monday morning at
9AM and concluding at approximately 6PM on Wednesday. There will be no
program on Sunday.
Best Regards,
-Dave Temkin
For the NANOG
On 12/20/12, Saku Ytti s...@ytti.fi wrote:
On (2012-12-20 03:24 +), Blake Pfankuch wrote:
[snip]
For me, humans would not do much directly with the tool. They'd give it
large chunk of resource. Then maybe mine it to pools like 'coreLink',
'coreLoop', 'custLink', 'custLAN' etc.
Then in
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote:
...
But is there a decently scalable open source application for building
a CMDB, that is visually appealing and efficient for humans to use,
without a ton of manual development; other than custom building
applications
On 12/20/12, Wayne E Bouchard w...@typo.org wrote:
Really, it will remain that way until the bandwidth needs from the
desktop begin to push the GE threshold. Until then, why bother
changing anything? When that does happen, it'll pretty well deal with
itself.
At which point the 8P8C
Zenoss works very well as a cmdb.
George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote:
...
But is there a decently scalable open source application for building
a CMDB, that is visually appealing and efficient for humans to
On 12/20/12, Charles N Wyble charles-li...@knownelement.com wrote:
Zenoss works very well as a cmdb.
Zenoss is very visually appealing, but a monitoring system for network
hosts, not a CMDB.
In particular, except through extensive custom programming, I see no
mechanism to manage CIs with it
Having a love-and-hate relationship with Checkpoint firewalls after working
for 6 years daily with them I am
probably biased :), but will say they are great firewalls once you know to
work with them .
If you are completely new to it I'd recommend Checkpoint CCSA/CCSE from
accredited APT course as
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Peter Kristolaitis alte...@alter3d.ca
wrote:
In my experience, free/cheap certs not working on some clients is, in
99.9% of cases, a misconfiguration error where the server isn't presenting
the cert chain
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