Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6

2013-01-28 Thread Neil J. McRae
On 17/01/2013 14:29, Brandon Ross br...@pobox.com wrote: AND game developers who build IPv6 functionality into their products. Do you hear us, PS3 and Xbox? Oscar, make sure you are telling your favorite game developers that they need to support IPv6 if they want to avoid the NAT mess.

Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6

2013-01-28 Thread Neil J. McRae
On 18/01/2013 17:48, Joe Maimon jmai...@ttec.com wrote: Suppose a provider fully deploys v6, they will still need CGN so long as they have customers who want to access the v4 internet. Yes indeed, and the smart folks who thought (clearly didn't!) about how the best way to manage IPV6 and IPV4

Re: IPV6 in enterprise best practices/white papaers

2013-01-28 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Pavel Dimow paveldi...@gmail.com I have read many of those ipv6 documents and they are great but I still luck to find something like real word scenario. What I mean is that for example I want to start implementation of ipv6 in my enterprise according to mu

Re: IPV6 in enterprise best practices/white papaers

2013-01-28 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Pavel Dimow paveldi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have read many of those ipv6 documents and they are great but I still luck to find something like real word scenario. What I mean is that for example I want to start implementation of ipv6 in my enterprise

Re: IPV6 in enterprise best practices/white papaers

2013-01-28 Thread Mukom Akong T.
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Eugeniu Patrascu eu...@imacandi.netwrote: I thought about running pure IPv6 inside and do 6to4, but it's too much of a headache, Nice call (skipping 6to4) not to mention that not all the internal equipment knows about IPv6 - L2 switches, some terminal

Looking for success stories in Qwest/Centurylink land

2013-01-28 Thread Joe Maimon
Anybody have some happy success stories to share about service in Qwest service area post Centurylink acquisition? Unfortunately the ones I have contain more humor than success. Story #1 Ethernet/Fiber service near Tampa ordered via partner, misordered as MPLS, re-ordered as vpls.

Re: IPV6 in enterprise best practices/white papaers

2013-01-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:26:43 +0100, Pavel Dimow said: Hi, I have read many of those ipv6 documents and they are great but I still luck to find something like real word scenario. I wish I had taken notes when we actually did this last century. pgpeb2r7wChr6.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: IPV6 in enterprise best practices/white papaers

2013-01-28 Thread Joe Maimon
Eugeniu Patrascu wrote: On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Pavel Dimow paveldi...@gmail.com wrote: As being personally involved deploying IPv6 on an enterprise network, here's how I did it (keeping in mind the fact that we have our own ASN): I suggest this be step 0 - get a /48 PI from

Re: Looking for success stories in Qwest/Centurylink land

2013-01-28 Thread Brent Jones
s/CenturyLink/ATT and I've got plenty of good stories for you. I think the big telcos these days simply don't care, and don't understand. They hire sales drones from Wal-Mart, and expect them to put in orders for longhaul circuits, or metro ethernet, and what you get is samples of perfume or pizza

Re: Looking for success stories in Qwest/Centurylink land

2013-01-28 Thread Warren Bailey
Spoken like a true ATT customer..;) From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. Original message From: Brent Jones br...@brentrjones.com Date: 01/28/2013 10:07 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Joe Maimon jmai...@ttec.com Cc: North American Networking and Offtopic

Re: Looking for success stories in Qwest/Centurylink land

2013-01-28 Thread Joe Maimon
If the bells werent so bell like, it would be a lot harder to win business from them. A colleague of mine is fond of asserting that the peter principle applies to corporations as a whole. Joe Warren Bailey wrote: Spoken like a true ATT customer..;) From my Android phone on T-Mobile.

Re: IPV6 in enterprise best practices/white papaers

2013-01-28 Thread Doug Barton
On 1/28/2013 7:27 AM, Eugeniu Patrascu wrote: - configure IPv6 firewall rules (mostly a mirror of the IPv4 rulesets) Hopefully that did not included filtering ICMPv6? :)

Re: IPV6 in enterprise best practices/white papaers

2013-01-28 Thread Doug Barton
On 1/28/2013 6:23 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: To paraphrase Guy L Steele: If we are this far on into the new IPv6 world and that question is not one which can be answered by a link on the first page of ghits for 'implementing IPv6', then the IPv6 people have blown it badly. Can you show me the

Re: Looking for success stories in Qwest/Centurylink land

2013-01-28 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 28 January 2013 10:35, Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: Spoken like a true ATT customer..;) I've had an ATT FTTU in my bedroom closet, which was an Alcatel HONT-C (4 POTS (unused), 1 Ethernet; 155.52 Mbps upstream and 622.08 Mbps downstream; shared with at most 32

Re: IPV6 in enterprise best practices/white papaers

2013-01-28 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jan 28, 2013, at 10:03 , Joe Maimon jmai...@ttec.com wrote: Eugeniu Patrascu wrote: On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Pavel Dimow paveldi...@gmail.com wrote: As being personally involved deploying IPv6 on an enterprise network, here's how I did it (keeping in mind the fact that we

Re: Looking for success stories in Qwest/Centurylink land

2013-01-28 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Constantine A. Murenin muren...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that's ATT for you: already has the network, already has the price structure, already has the marketing going, already has all the passive and active equipment installed that's capable of vastly superior

RE: Looking for success stories in Qwest/Centurylink land

2013-01-28 Thread David Prall
You should try paying Verizon in Advance, they sent me to collections because I had a negative balance on my account for 3 months. Took me 6 months after closing my account to get them to correct the late payment charges and send me a refund. -- http://dcp.dcptech.com -Original Message-

Re: Looking for success stories in Qwest/Centurylink land

2013-01-28 Thread david peahi
My experience with one of the big 2 telcos in the USA is unbelievable even now looking back a few months: 1. at my key network monitoring site telco Northern Telecom (before NT changed their name to Nortel) SONET equipment circa 1995 kept failing, taking legacy circuits down hard. 2. Escalating

Re: Looking for success stories in Qwest/Centurylink land

2013-01-28 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 28 January 2013 13:57, david peahi davidpe...@gmail.com wrote: The above anecdote is typical in my experience with the telcos, and underscores the need for a national broadband buildout in the USA, funded and run by the Federal Government, based upon the Australian National Broadband

Re: Looking for success stories in Qwest/Centurylink land

2013-01-28 Thread Joe Maimon
Constantine A. Murenin wrote: On 28 January 2013 13:57, david peahi davidpe...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.nbn.gov.au/2012/12/03/did-you-know-that-our-copper-network-is-being-switched-off/ Do they have any customers object? I recall a few recent stories about Verizon having problems

Re: Looking for success stories in Qwest/Centurylink land

2013-01-28 Thread Scott Weeks
--- muren...@gmail.com wrote: From: Constantine A. Murenin muren...@gmail.com Here is a link to the Australian National Broadband site, describing how the existing telco-owned copper network will be switched off:

Re: Looking for success stories in Qwest/Centurylink land

2013-01-28 Thread Randy Bush
Anybody have some happy success stories to share about service in Qwest service area post Centurylink acquisition? yes. switched my WA residential to comcast. *much* happier. randy

Re: Looking for success stories in Qwest/Centurylink land

2013-01-28 Thread William Allen Simpson
On 1/28/13 8:06 PM, Randy Bush wrote: Anybody have some happy success stories to share about service in Qwest service area post Centurylink acquisition? yes. switched my WA residential to comcast. *much* happier. Thanks, that made me laugh. Myself, for residential, have long left

Re: Looking for success stories in Qwest/Centurylink land

2013-01-28 Thread Rob McEwen
On 1/28/2013 4:57 PM, david peahi wrote: and underscores the need for a national broadband buildout in the USA, funded and run by the Federal Government Maybe Australia has a better track record... but over the past few decades, the US Federal government: (A) ...cannot do a darn thing without

Google's Public DNS does DNSSEC validation

2013-01-28 Thread Marco Davids
This is interesting news; it seems that Google's Public DNS is performing DNSSEC validation (when the DO-bit is set): dig +dnssec +multi www.dnssec.nl @8.8.8.8 ; DiG 9.9.1-vjs163.18-P1 +dnssec +multi www.dnssec.nl @8.8.8.8 ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY,