Re: Time Warner Cable YouTube throttling

2013-03-07 Thread Yang Yu
Also if your upstream has Google Global Cache (or whatever it's called), the results can be very different I suppose. Does Google use different naming structure for IPv6 CDN? Maybe this particular cache does not offer IPv6. ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;r3---sn-n2uxaxjvh-j5xe.c.youtube.com. IN A ;;

Re: What Should an Engineer Address when 'Selling' IPv6 to Executives?

2013-03-07 Thread Mukom Akong T.
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:25 AM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: For that, you need the help of a real cost analyst. That's what they're for; they help organizations figure out a solid idea what something will really cost before they start spending money. If your organization is large,

Re: What Should an Engineer Address when 'Selling' IPv6 to Executives?

2013-03-07 Thread Arturo Servin
On 7 Mar 2013, at 02:50, Dobbins, Roland wrote: On Mar 7, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: I would pitch it as follows: We need to at least have IPv6 access to troubleshoot/understand customers that have dual-stack technology. That's a great point, but my guess is that the suits

Re: Dreamhost/AS26347 unauthorized bgp announcement

2013-03-07 Thread Job Snijders
Hi all, Just a small update. Off-list Andree and me have been working together with Kenneth from dreamhost to try and figure out what exactly happened and which device or party orginated these prefixes. Unfortunately no hard conclusions can be drawn from the data available to us, especially

Need a Level3 Contact

2013-03-07 Thread Brian
Hi, I have a prefix that isn't being accepted by Level3. Can someone from Level3 could contact. Off list is fine. -brian

Re: Time Warner Cable YouTube throttling

2013-03-07 Thread Warren Bailey
I had the opportunity to look at this from a TWC fiber customer in Ohio, and this did not seem to affect them. From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. Original message From: Grant Ridder shortdudey...@gmail.com Date: 03/07/2013 2:22 AM

Re: What Should an Engineer Address when 'Selling' IPv6 to Executives?

2013-03-07 Thread John Curran
On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Arturo Servin aser...@lacnic.net wrote: Yes, but this is an argument to deploy the whole IPv6 thing, not against a strategy to first deploy in-house and then to customers, isn't it? In my experience, it is always best to try IPv6 in-house (at least a

Re: What Should an Engineer Address when 'Selling' IPv6 to Executives?

2013-03-07 Thread Arturo Servin
Pretty much the same process that I have seen in many ISPs and enterprises. Regards. as On 07/03/2013 11:32, John Curran wrote: On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Arturo Servin aser...@lacnic.net wrote: Yes, but this is an argument to deploy the whole IPv6 thing, not against a

Re: Comcast NOC Contact

2013-03-07 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
Comcast's customers send money to Comcast in order to receive whatever they want from other networks. With that money, Comcast should invest in infrastructure so that it's network is not saturated anymore. Isn't this how IPSs work ? :) On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Vinod K vinod...@hotmail.com

RE: Comcast NOC Contact

2013-03-07 Thread Jamie Bowden
From: Eugeniu Patrascu [mailto:eu...@imacandi.net] Comcast's customers send money to Comcast in order to receive whatever they want from other networks. With that money, Comcast should invest in infrastructure so that it's network is not saturated anymore. Isn't this how IPSs work ? :) In

Re: Comcast NOC Contact

2013-03-07 Thread Scott Helms
Its a bit more complicated than that, especially when you're a large operator that all the content providers need to be able to reach and you have a (largely) converged backbone system. On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Eugeniu Patrascu eu...@imacandi.net wrote: Comcast's customers send money to

Re: Comcast NOC Contact

2013-03-07 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
My comment was more or less directed to the person that said losts of people want to send traffic to comcast, but no one wants to send money. I find it very dangerous and provocative, and somewhat on the same line with others that believe in the sender party pays crap they're trying to force onto

Re: Time Warner Cable YouTube throttling

2013-03-07 Thread Elijah Savage
Jumping on the bandwagon. I have not had the chance to follow the entire thread but have seen this behavior from ATT Uverse, Time Warner, and Verizon FIOS. I believed initially this was a capacity issue with Google and Youtube. The reason for this thought is fairly simple with no scientific

Re: What Should an Engineer Address when 'Selling' IPv6 to Executives?

2013-03-07 Thread Antonio Querubin
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013, Mukom Akong T. wrote: On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Antonio Querubin t...@lavanauts.org wrote: I don't think the business case is the issue. It is the timeline over which the sense of urgency becomes important enough for most execs to take seriously. That's still a

Re: What Should an Engineer Address when 'Selling' IPv6 to Executives?

2013-03-07 Thread Mukom Akong T.
On Thursday, March 7, 2013, Antonio Querubin wrote: On Wed, 6 Mar 2013, Mukom Akong T. wrote: On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Antonio Querubin t...@lavanauts.org wrote: I don't think the business case is the issue. It is the timeline over which the sense of urgency becomes important

ATT AM Director for New York

2013-03-07 Thread Jason Lixfeld
To any ATT sales folks listening, my account manager has not been very good at following up on multiple requests to quote increases in my IP transit commits. If any account manager directors or other tiers who these AMs might report to could contact me, I'd love to give you their name so you

RE: Comcast NOC Contact

2013-03-07 Thread Vinod K
Eugen and NANOG I'm sorry. My earlier comment was from conversation my last employer had about peering with Comcast where they told us they had balanced ratios. You can see from Ren Provo that is no longer true. This is politics as usual, playing the silly game. I am sorry to offend. I

RE: What Should an Engineer Address when 'Selling' IPv6 to Executives?

2013-03-07 Thread Vinod K
Matthew, I am sorry to offend, but I don't think the Skype development agile when u say IPv6 is not needed or important in 2013. Microsoft hs strong thought leaders like VJ Gill and Najam Ahmad who bring v6 to Bing and GFS. You should follow their example. Regards Vinod Date: Wed, 6 Mar