On Jun 17, 2013, at 00:36 , Otis L. Surratt, Jr. o...@ocosa.com wrote:
Any idea why more companies don't offer eBGP peering / multi hop
peering? Its very common for providers to offer single or double hop
peering, so why not 5 or 10 hops? In many cases people find it logical
to perform single
Perhaps I am missing something from your advantage list, but why would
you want to exchange routing information with a network to which you
don't have a connection due to a local failure? I think you are
attempting to abstract routing from the underlying physical
infrastructure a bit too
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On Jun 17, 2013, at 00:36 , Otis L. Surratt, Jr. o...@ocosa.com
wrote:
First, inside your own network
I'm in need of my first free-standing, pad-mounted outdoor enclosure,
19 rack rails, 12-18 rack units, with about 400W of heat load inside,
for use in the Massachusetts climate. What do people recommend as far
as contruction, cooling/heating options, NEMA ratings, security
options, etc. for this
I came across this once. Seems interesting but we have never used it
ourselves. 400 Watts is not much so I believe this unit may even be
overkill.
http://www.ellipticalmedia.com/raserhd.html
On 6/17/2013 3:36 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
I'm in need of my first free-standing, pad-mounted
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote:
I'm in need of my first free-standing, pad-mounted outdoor enclosure,
19 rack rails, 12-18 rack units, with about 400W of heat load inside,
for use in the Massachusetts climate. What do people recommend as far
as contruction,
http://www.ddbunlimited.com/
Be prepared to drop some coin.
Josh
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote:
I'm in need of my first free-standing, pad-mounted outdoor enclosure,
19 rack rails, 12-18 rack units, with about 400W of heat load inside,
for use in the
Alpha's Radium Minibays should be a good start of what to look at and
seems to fit your requirements:
http://www.alpha.ca/web2/products/enclosures/outdoor-enclosures-medium/item/radium-minibay-series
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote:
I'm in need of my first
Greetings
I may be needing 10 gig from the West Coast to the East Coast some time in
the next year. I've got my ideas on what that would cost, but I don't have
anything that big.
This could be a leased line, part of a cloud with Verizon, NTT, Sprint, or
whoever as the provider, etc. I'm just
http://www.ddbunlimited.com/
-mike
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On Jun 17, 2013, at 12:49, Alex Lesser a...@pssclabs.com wrote:
I came across this once. Seems interesting but we have never used it
ourselves. 400 Watts is not much so I believe this unit may even be
overkill.
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:51:28 -0700, eric clark said:
I may be needing 10 gig from the West Coast to the East Coast
Might want to be more specific. Catalina Island, CA to Buxton, NC
(home of Cape Hatteras High School) will probably be way different
than downtown LA to downtown Boston.
This is by far a cheaper option, but should work just fine. I'm about
to do the same myself.
Grab a used cab here - http://www.usedtowers.com/CABINETS/CABINETS.htm
Some of those come with the factory huge AC systems built for thousands
of watts of equipment inside, but if you're like me and
Clearwire uses these and they are very nice.
www.*ddb*unlimited.com
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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote:
I'm in need of my first free-standing, pad-mounted outdoor enclosure,
19 rack rails, 12-18 rack units,
I have had success with the opposite approach using equipment rated from
-40 C to +85 C (+185 F), no fans, sealed NEMA4 or NEMA12 Hoffman
enclosures, cooling by equipment heat sinks. Ethernet switches and optics
rated -40 C to +85 C
This configuration has worked with the same equipment for at
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 04:19:07PM -0400, Jon Sands wrote:
This is by far a cheaper option, but should work just fine. I'm
about to do the same myself.
Grab a used cab here - http://www.usedtowers.com/CABINETS/CABINETS.htm
Some of those come with the factory huge AC systems built for
Woah, the last quote I got from them was less than half the price of a
cab. I guess I'm cooling less equipment? What model are you looking at?
On 6/17/2013 4:28 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 04:19:07PM -0400, Jon Sands wrote:
This is by far a cheaper option, but should
Unfortunately, I have some specific non-commodity circuit boards I'm
dealing with, so I have to accommodate their environmental
requirements.
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 01:22:26PM -0700, david peahi wrote:
I have had success with the opposite approach using equipment rated from
-40 C to +85 C
Fair enough
Seattle to Boston is the general route, real close.
On Monday, June 17, 2013, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:51:28 -0700, eric clark said:
I may be needing 10 gig from the West Coast to the East Coast
Might want to be more specific. Catalina Island, CA to Buxton, NC
(home of
It's typically that the last mile portion of the circuit is going to cost
you the most, so it's important to know those details.
Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com
Also, what are reliability and redundancy requirements.
10 gigs of bare naked fiber is one thing, but if you need extra paths
redundancy, figure that out now and specify.
Is this latency, bandwidth, both? Mission critical, business critical,
less priority? 24x7x365, or subset of that, or
On 6/17/2013 10:32 PM, George Herbert wrote:
Also, what are reliability and redundancy requirements.
10 gigs of bare naked fiber is one thing, but if you need extra paths
redundancy, figure that out now and specify.
Is this latency, bandwidth, both? Mission critical, business critical,
all of these questions are valid.
The guys who will use it would love to have line rate on the 10G, for a single
conversation, but that's not going to happen. So, there's a certain amount of
expectation management.
For the purpose we're proposing, this would be an additional link to an
I'm looking for options.
With dark fiber, obviously, I have the ultimate in options.
However, its the ultimate in cost as you say.
The requirement we have is 10gig of actual throughput. Precisely what mechanism
is used to transport it isn't all that important, though I'm certain that there
I've had pretty good luck with CenturyLinks 10G wave offerings:
http://shop.centurylink.com/largebusiness/enterprisesolutions/products/ethernet/qwave.html
Ethernet hand-off at both sites with IPsec or GRE provided a pretty solid
environment. You should be able to take advantage of some UDP
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