Re: Practical effects of DNSSEC deployment

2013-08-17 Thread Geoff Huston
Hi Steve, There was an interesting paper at Usenix Security on the effects of deploying DNSSEC; see https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity13/measuring-practical-impact-dnssec-deployment . The difference in geographical impact was quite striking. George Michaelson and I have

Re: WaPo writes about vulnerabilities in Supermicro IPMIs

2013-08-17 Thread Anthony Bonkoski
There's a few misconceptions I'd like to address, plus add some backstory. The Washington Post article is intentionally void of details. It is intended as a non-technical article. You can find the actual technical paper here:

[Paper] B4: Experience with a Globally-Deployed Software Defined WAN

2013-08-17 Thread staticsafe
We present the design, implementation, and evaluation of B4, a pri- vate WAN connecting Google’s data centers across the planet. - http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~vahdat/papers/b4-sigcomm13.pdf -- staticsafe O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org Please don't top post. Please

Re: [Paper] B4: Experience with a Globally-Deployed Software Defined WAN

2013-08-17 Thread Todd Underwood
Unpossible. I heard that no one really uses sdn for anything. :) T On Aug 17, 2013 2:43 PM, staticsafe m...@staticsafe.ca wrote: We present the design, implementation, and evaluation of B4, a pri- vate WAN connecting Google’s data centers across the planet. -

Re: [Paper] B4: Experience with a Globally-Deployed Software Defined

2013-08-17 Thread Avi Freedman
No, people never use *flow controllers* for anything. People have been doing SDN since before Google was around. OK, so it was horrible expect scripts but it worked. Avi Unpossible. I heard that no one really uses sdn for anything. :) T

Re: [Paper] B4: Experience with a Globally-Deployed Software Defined

2013-08-17 Thread jim deleskie
At iMCI (pre-Worldcom) we had scripts that would build all our ATM VC's for a 400node mesh, would take all night to run :) -jim On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Avi Freedman freed...@freedman.net wrote: No, people never use *flow controllers* for anything. People have been doing SDN

Re: [Paper] B4: Experience with a Globally-Deployed Software Defined

2013-08-17 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Avi Freedman freed...@freedman.net wrote: No, people never use *flow controllers* for anything. People have been doing SDN since before Google was around. OK, so it was horrible expect scripts but it worked. Not really. Automatic reconfiguration of routers is

Re: [Paper] B4: Experience with a Globally-Deployed Software Defined

2013-08-17 Thread Arturo Servin
Hacker will love SDN ... :) Bye, bye dumb and resilient network ... .as On 8/17/13 8:02 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: A software defined network is one where the forwarding behavior can be completely defined in software running outside of the devices that perform the forwarding.

Re: [Paper] B4: Experience with a Globally-Deployed Software Defined

2013-08-17 Thread Jeff Kell
On 8/17/2013 7:14 PM, Arturo Servin wrote: Hacker will love SDN ... Yes. Traditional SDN is big, flat layer-2 network with global mac-address resolution, and a big fat Java applet managing the adjacency tables. What could *possibly* go wrong? Jeff

Re: [Paper] B4: Experience with a Globally-Deployed Software Defined

2013-08-17 Thread Jayram Déshpandé
SDN is not a new concept at all. Infact since ARPANET days, the notion of centralized control plane had a lot of traction. But with Cold war around, It made more sense to push the control plane intelligence into individual decision points (routers , switches , et . al. ). Considering the

Re: [Paper] B4: Experience with a Globally-Deployed Software Defined

2013-08-17 Thread Avi Freedman
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Avi Freedman freed...@freedman.net wrote: No, people never use *flow controllers* for anything. People have been doing SDN since before Google was around. OK, so it was horrible expect scripts but it worked. Not really. Note I am talking about flow

morning giggle

2013-08-17 Thread Randy Bush
for your morning, or whatever time of day it is to you, giggle From: Jeffrey L. Roberts jeffrey.l.robe...@gmail.com Subject: DNS Zone File Access Request To: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 21:56:02 -0400 Greetings, My name is Jeff and I hope you're having a great day. I am the

Re: morning giggle

2013-08-17 Thread Mike Hale
Maybe he's trying to sell you some eCigars? http://support.shipstation.com/forums/126593-request-a-new-shipstation-feature/suggestions/3357095-print-second-page-of-packing-slip-when-printing-ha http://www.v2cigs.com/ On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: for your

Re: morning giggle

2013-08-17 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Sun, 18 Aug 2013, Randy Bush wrote: out to receive credentials to access your dns zone files. Please contact me at your earliest convenience at jeffrey.l.robe...@gmail.com, or feel free to call me at 1-305-815-1155 Oh my, this is too funny. In fact it reads like a 419 scam -- except the

Re: [Paper] B4: Experience with a Globally-Deployed Software Defined

2013-08-17 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Avi Freedman freed...@freedman.net wrote: On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Avi Freedman freed...@freedman.net wrote: OK, so it was horrible expect scripts but it worked. Not really. The idea of centralized decision makers doing something (typically per

Re: morning giggle

2013-08-17 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: for your morning, or whatever time of day it is to you, giggle lol... Ah... they must want form #298446.3B-II; request for login shell and root password from complete random stranger under dubious circumstances, without

Re: morning giggle

2013-08-17 Thread Peter Kristolaitis
On 8/18/2013 1:11 AM, Jimmy Hess wrote: On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: for your morning, or whatever time of day it is to you, giggle lol... Ah... they must want form #298446.3B-II; request for login shell and root password from complete random