Re: OpenNTPProject.org

2014-02-17 Thread Brian Rak
Rate limitings been in place for quite some time, but I believe it's only for actual time queries. This DDOS uses monlist, which isn't subject to the same rate limits. You've disabled monlist now, so I bet you'll no longer need all the rate limiting IPTables rules. (Though, you'll still see

Re: OpenNTPProject.org

2014-02-17 Thread George, Wes
I’ll note that this is less than 140 chars, and therefore fits nicely in a tweet. If you’re on twitter, Signal boost the PSA, please. My edited example: https://twitter.com/wesgeorge/status/435404354242478080 Wes George On 2/16/14, 10:03 PM, Kate Gerry k...@quadranet.com wrote: add these to

Re: OpenNTPProject.org

2014-02-17 Thread Paul S.
Better yet, why is your ntp server even reachable off net? Providing a public clock service needs a lot more configuration effort than a simple, default one -- as just demonstrated. (However, this is not to say that private servers should have management queries enabled.) On 2/17/2014 9:03

Re: OpenNTPProject.org

2014-02-17 Thread Harlan Stenn
Kate Gerry writes: Just add these to your ntp.conf configuration then restart the service: (Wo= rks with all default installations that I've found) restrict default kod nomodify notrap nopeer noquery restrict -6 default kod nomodify notrap nopeer noquery KOD only works with limited in the

Re: OpenNTPProject.org

2014-02-17 Thread Harlan Stenn
If somebody has contacts at Juniper who is involved in this, I'd like to get their contact information. -- Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org http://networktimefoundation.org - be a member!

Re: OpenNTPProject.org

2014-02-17 Thread Yucong Sun
Just for the reference, here is a more complete solution for Junos (took me a while searching the web to figure it out), hope it helps someone. policy-options { prefix-list lo0.0-inet-address { apply-path interfaces lo0 unit 0 family inet address *; } prefix-list ntp-servers {

Re: OpenNTPProject.org

2014-02-17 Thread Pete Ashdown
On 2/17/14, 7:26 AM, George, Wes wrote: I’ll note that this is less than 140 chars, and therefore fits nicely in a tweet. If you’re on twitter, Signal boost the PSA, please. My edited example: https://twitter.com/wesgeorge/status/435404354242478080 Wes George On 2/16/14, 10:03 PM, Kate

Re: OpenNTPProject.org

2014-02-17 Thread Blake Dunlap
Peer means it considers the other side an equal and they will mutually skew time together. If you have peer on for devices you don't consider your time servers, you're opening yourself up to problems. -Blake On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Pete Ashdown pashd...@xmission.com wrote: On

Re: OpenNTPProject.org

2014-02-17 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Feb 17, 2014, at 10:14 PM, Pete Ashdown pashd...@xmission.com wrote: Does not having nopeer contribute to DDoS amplification? No: http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/348126 --- Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net //

Re: OpenNTPProject.org

2014-02-17 Thread Anthony Williams
Blake: Just to make sure I've got this down, listing a device as a peer in the ntp.conf file will create a situation where both devices are saying, I know what time it is and splitting the difference? Whereas when you list a device as a server, it's using that as the authority on the correct

Monday BCP38.info reminder

2014-02-17 Thread Jay Ashworth
Standard[1] Monday[2] Reminder[3]: DDOS attacks are bad. DDOS attacks that you can't tell where they're coming from are worse. BCP38 helps eliminate the latter, which helps markedly with the former. BCP38 is usually relatively easy to implement. Most of you people know how to do it already,

Re: OpenNTPProject.org

2014-02-17 Thread James R Cutler
On Feb 17, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Anthony Williams alby.willi...@verizon.com wrote: Blake: Just to make sure I've got this down, listing a device as a peer in the ntp.conf file will create a situation where both devices are saying, I know what time it is and splitting the difference? Whereas

Re: OpenNTPProject.org

2014-02-17 Thread Blake Dunlap
If you're trying to actually run a ntp server setup as opposed to just trusting the world, I strongly suggest reading the documentation for the service, as most people don't deploy it correctly while they think they have. At minimum, you want a cluster of 3 - 4 servers internally, configured as

[NANOG-announce] ARIN+NANOG on the Road San Diego reminder

2014-02-17 Thread Betty Burke be...@nanog.org
Colleagues: A reminder note for those who are, or know of someone local, to San Diego; do not delay, ARIN+NANOG on the Roadhttp://www.cvent.com/events/arin-nanog-on-the-road-san-diego/event-summary-f8a281cd63184dd1a410b894a873431b.aspxis fast approaching. We have a great program

Work Practices of Cyber Security Professionals

2014-02-17 Thread Muhammad Adnan
Dear Sir/Madam, I am a university researcher who is investigating the development of new, usable tools that will improve the work practices of cyber security professionals. As a first step to achieve this goal, I am undertaking a survey to gain an in-depth understanding of the day-to-day