RE: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread Vitkovský Adam
From: Dobbins, Roland [mailto:rdobb...@arbor.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:06 AM Although it's questionable whether or not it's possible to remotely absolutely ascertain whether the attacking machine in question was being operated by miscreants unbeknownst to its actual owner. Though

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Mar 12, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Vitkovský Adam adam.vitkov...@swan.sk wrote: Though it's 100% correct would this withstand in the court? TIINAL - The Internet Is Not A Lawyer. ; --- Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net //

Re: XO/TWC problems?

2014-03-12 Thread Mikeal Clark
Problem looks worse this morning. Seeing about 15% packet loss now. On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Edward Roels edwardro...@gmail.com wrote: As seen from Cogent to XO. http://i.imgur.com/aFyAw1p.png On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Mikeal Clark mikeal.cl...@gmail.com wrote: This

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:00 AM, Markus unive...@truemetal.org wrote: I'm an ISP in Germany and a cracker (not a hacker :) ) has targeted a customers of mine in the last days. The cracker was successful and caused financial damage / was successful with data theft. I set a trap and finally

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 3/12/2014 5:41 AM, Dobbins, Roland wrote: TIINAL - The Internet Is Not A Lawyer. NANOGINTI There ARE rules in the environment, however. For example, there is one that I am too lazy to look-up that argues for the use of a .sig separator -- .

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread Warren Bailey
I heard cheese works really well for catching crackers. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Larry Sheldon larryshel...@cox.net Date: 03/12/2014 9:08 AM (GMT-08:00) To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: How to catch a cracker in the US? On 3/12/2014 5:41

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread Tei
On 12 March 2014 14:56, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: .. Who knows, U.S. authorities may already be investigating the same user which would make your job so much easier. lurker mode offAlso, if you just want a deterrent. Having a cop visit the home of the cracker just making questions

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Hi, I found that finding them on IRC, or wherever it is that they congregate, and simply talking to them until they incriminate themselves tends to work best. I also found that firewalls, IDS, security audits, antivirus, antimalware etc work almost not at all. The reason for this is pretty

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread Sholes, Joshua
Ha! ³Easy², in my personal experience (having once upon a time caught a hacker in .ro, but it took six months of work to seal the deal with handcuffs). -- Josh Sholes On 3/12/14, 12:37 PM, Andrew D Kirch trel...@trelane.net wrote: Hi, I found that finding them on IRC, or wherever it is

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 04:16:13PM +, Warren Bailey wrote: I heard cheese works really well for catching crackers. That's racist.

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread Warren Bailey
Since when do crackers have a stated ethnicity? Isn¹t racism based on race, and not flour content in a baked snack? LOL We accept crackers of all types here.. Flour, rice, wheat, grain, etc. On 3/12/14, 10:14 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 04:16:13PM +,

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: Since when do crackers have a stated ethnicity? Isn¹t racism based on race, and not flour content in a baked snack? LOL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_%28pejorative%29 -- William D. Herrin

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread Warren Bailey
Being caucasian myself, I am inherently aware of the terminology “cracker. How a joke relating to catching crackers with “cheese” was translated into a racial slur is completely beyond my comprehension. In my country, we eat cheese with crackers .. So it would be safe to assume the entirety of my

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread Scott Morris
And if they were the intended application of the term, I would think that “cheese” would not the the appropriate choice to catch them. However, cheese and crackers would seem to be more a snack, which is at least how I interpreted that original comment. Perhaps I need to drink more… Scott

RE: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread Barry Shein
There's an almost, I don't know the right word, jealous reaction to someone asking for help like this sometimes where people speculate on the legal success etc generally concluding failure. There are many good reasons to try to track a criminal. For one thing, often this is not their only

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: Being caucasian myself, I am inherently aware of the terminology cracker. How a joke relating to catching crackers with cheese was translated into a racial slur is completely beyond my comprehension.

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread Warren Bailey
So like.. Nerds have a sense of humor all the sudden?? Did I miss a slashdot post or something? ;) (and I used nerd lovingly..) On 3/12/14, 12:48 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: Being

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread Sholes, Joshua
On 3/12/14, 2:05 PM, Scott Morris s...@emanon.com wrote: Perhaps I need to drink moreŠ If you¹re on this list, that¹s practically a given regardless of circumstances. ‹Josh

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: So like.. Nerds have a sense of humor all the sudden?? Did I miss a slashdot post or something? Geeks, man. Geeks. Nerds have pocket protectors. -Bill -- William D. Herrin

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread Alexander Neilson
I just thought it was Nerds didn't have social lives (not likely to be drinking) They fail the blood alcohol test on sign up to the list here. Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Ltd alexan...@neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 On 13/03/2014, at 8:57 am, William Herrin

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread shawn wilson
On Mar 11, 2014 3:09 AM, Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Mar 11, 2014, at 2:00 PM, Markus unive...@truemetal.org wrote: Any advice? Start with CERT-BUND, maybe? That is the correct answer, if you want something less settle (and possibly illegal), there were discussions on

Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

2014-03-12 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:00 AM, Markus unive...@truemetal.org wrote: Hi, Your goal should be to keep together and preserve all the evidence/documentation you have: make sure you have and can verify the authenticity and chain of custody for all relevant materials that you say evidence attacks