Re: Recommendation on NTP appliances/devices

2014-04-04 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2014-04-03 21:25 -0700), Will Orton wrote: There are commercially available NTP servers with GPS + Rb oscillators... for NTP use you could basically let it sync up a couple days, disconnect the GPS and let it freerun. You'd still be within a millisecond of GPS even after a couple

Re: Cisco warranty

2014-04-04 Thread Laurent CARON
On 04/04/2014 01:51, Jimmy Hess wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Brandon Ewing nicot...@warningg.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 01:26:58PM -0400, Michael Brown wrote: Did you purchase SMARTnet when you bought the device? If you didn't, you're probably SOL. This is not true. Cisco

RE: BGPMON Alert Questions

2014-04-04 Thread Vitkovský Adam
That Upstream B is simply accepting everything their customer is sending to them without applying proper filters, or checking to confirm that what their customer needs to send them should come from them is absolutely and unacceptably shocking! I wonder when (or if ever) we'll have such a

Re: Cisco warranty

2014-04-04 Thread Simon Lockhart
On Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 09:42:29AM +0200, Laurent CARON wrote: My device is indeed supposedly covered by a lifetime warranty. Since I'm still in the timeframe of less than 5 years after EOS...it should be good...should. The *Limited* Lifetime Warranty is only offered to the original purchaser

Re: Recommendation on NTP appliances/devices

2014-04-04 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 04/04/14 17:29, Saku Ytti wrote: On (2014-04-03 21:25 -0700), Will Orton wrote: There are commercially available NTP servers with GPS + Rb oscillators... for NTP use you could basically let it sync up a couple days, disconnect the GPS and let it freerun. You'd still be within a

Re: Recommendation on NTP appliances/devices

2014-04-04 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 04/04/14 10:16, Majdi S. Abbas wrote: On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 06:55:02PM -0400, David Hubbard wrote: Anyone have recommendations on NTP appliances; i.e. make, model, gps vs cell, etc.? Roof/outdoor/window access not available. Would ideally need to be able to handle bursts of up to a few

Re: Recommendation on NTP appliances/devices

2014-04-04 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, David Hubbard wrote: Anyone have recommendations on NTP appliances; i.e. make, model, gps vs cell, etc.? Roof/outdoor/window access not available. Would ideally need to be able to handle bursts of up to a few thousand simultaneous queries. Needs IPv6 support. For some

Re: BGPMON Alert Questions

2014-04-04 Thread Benno Overeinder
On 04/04/2014 05:06 AM, Sharon Goldberg wrote: Finally, like Randy says, RPKI deploys quite different from BGPSEC. My intuition says that (1) once the RPKI is fully populated with ROAs for all originated prefixes, then (2) a partial deployment of origin validation at a few large ISPs should be

Re: Recommendation on NTP appliances/devices

2014-04-04 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2014-04-04 20:37 +1100), Julien Goodwin wrote: Meinberg[0] pegs rubidium at ±8ms per year, if you need NTP to do say single direction backbone SLA measurement you want to have microsecond precision. Those two statements don't go together. Point I was making is that free-running

Re: Starting a greenfield carrier backbone network that can scale to national and international service. What would you do?

2014-04-04 Thread Daniël W . Crompton
I recently saw an interesting talk about this at 30c3, this is the way some French ISPs are solving this: http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2013/30C3_-_5391_-_en_-_saal_6_-_201312291130_-_y_u_no_isp_taking_back_the_net_-_taziden.html D. Oplerno is built upon empowering faculty and students

Re: Recommendation on NTP appliances/devices

2014-04-04 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 04/04/14 21:48, Saku Ytti wrote: On (2014-04-04 20:37 +1100), Julien Goodwin wrote: Meinberg[0] pegs rubidium at ±8ms per year, if you need NTP to do say single direction backbone SLA measurement you want to have microsecond precision. Those two statements don't go together. Point I

Re: Recommendation on NTP appliances/devices

2014-04-04 Thread Saku Ytti
So what, that sends IP packets, are you using to *measure* it. I can Agilent if we need unidir. Normal run-of-the-mill 10GE SP router will give you low single digit microsecond jitter when not congested. (You can run 99.99% no problem, as long as you don't try 100% (i.e. 1 interface sending)).

Re: Starting a greenfield carrier backbone network that can scale to national and international service. What would you do?

2014-04-04 Thread Mark Radabaugh
On 4/3/14, 4:52 PM, char...@thefnf.org wrote: Hello everyone, It's been some time since I've been subscribed/replied/posted here (or on WISPA for that matter). I've been pretty busy running a non profit startup (protip: don't do that. It's really really terrible) :) I'm cofounder and CTO of

Re: Starting a greenfield carrier backbone network that can scale to national and international service. What would you do?

2014-04-04 Thread charles
On 2014-04-04 09:08, Mark Radabaugh wrote: On 4/3/14, 4:52 PM, char...@thefnf.org wrote: Hello everyone, It's been some time since I've been subscribed/replied/posted here (or on WISPA for that matter). I've been pretty busy running a non profit startup (protip: don't do that. It's really

Re: BGPMON Alert Questions

2014-04-04 Thread Sharon Goldberg
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:15 AM, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote: On Friday, April 04, 2014 05:06:22 AM Sharon Goldberg wrote: We also looked at prefix filtering and found that it has better partial deployment characteristics. Our analysis assumed that ISPs only filter routes from

Re: BGPMON Alert Questions

2014-04-04 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 04/04/2014 16:17, Sharon Goldberg wrote: we assumed that no one filters their downstreams downstreams. plenty of organisations do this. it can easily be done with irrdb AS sets. Nick

Re: BGPMON Alert Questions

2014-04-04 Thread Sharon Goldberg
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Sharon Goldberg gol...@cs.bu.edu wrote Actually, since this is NANOG, might as well ask: Do you all view filtering your downstream's downstreams as much more difficult than filtering only downstreams, or only stub ASes? Do you have a sense for how many

Re: Recommendation on NTP appliances/devices

2014-04-04 Thread Dan Drown
Quoting Julien Goodwin na...@studio442.com.au: Show my anything short of a classic SONET transmission system (or perhaps sync-E) where you actually have something with jitter that low [tens of microseconds]. Since you asked, here you go: http://i.imgur.com/DvMJd5y.png Two EndRun Unison GPS

Weekly Routing Table Report

2014-04-04 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, TRNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to

The Cidr Report

2014-04-04 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Apr 4 21:13:45 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

BGP Update Report

2014-04-04 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 27-Mar-14 -to- 03-Apr-14 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS36998 69594 2.8% 42.5 -- SDN-MOBITEL,SD 2 - AS982964062 2.6% 63.1

165 Halsey and Perimeter Security

2014-04-04 Thread Martin Hannigan
Folks, Anyone have a contact at Tishman that can help me with perimeter security concerns at 165 Halsey? The situation in the neighborhood is currently unsatisfactory (and unsafe) and I'd like to engage the landlord directly. Currently a tenant of a colo provider, not the landlord directly. Ping

Anternet

2014-04-04 Thread Larry Sheldon
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