Re: something strange about bgp community

2015-01-07 Thread Jared Mauch
2914:429 is a community to signal to NTT to not announce the route to peers which would perhaps be why you don't see NTT doing that. You can see the documented NTT communities here: http://www.us.ntt.net/support/policy/routing.cfm Jared Mauch On Jan 7, 2015, at 5:35 AM, Song Li

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread John Levine
If only we could create a committee to fix whois... Quite astonishingly, the IETF WEIRDS working group finished successfully, and its documents will be published as RFCs when they get through the editing queue in a month or two. The protocol is called RDAP, the queries are http, the results are

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread George Michaelson
http://rdap.apnic.net/ redirects to a web page documenting service http://rdap.apnic.net/ip shows a json error response http://rdap.apnic.net/ip/203.119.0.0/24 shows the /24 record for 203.119.0.0/24 -G On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:59 PM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 7,

Microsoft - RE: Office 365 Expert - I am not. I have a customer that...

2015-01-07 Thread Bob Evans
Thanks Frank... I do have a customer with 500 meg/sec service running 350 meg/sec average all day just 800 employees - no company driven focused use of MS office 365. Applications used and time of day, etc. So, I don't think one can compare a college's overall app bandwidth usage to a

HostGator contact

2015-01-07 Thread Jordan Whited
Looking for a HostGator contact, off-list

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread John R. Levine
ARIN, APNIC, and RIPE have prototypes already that are a lot easier to script than the text WHOIS. Meaning the data structure is in place or they have a RDAP service up? Both. ARIN's and RIPE's are based on early versions so the URLs and JSON aren't quite what RDAP says they should be yet.

Re: Office 365 Expert - I am not. I have a customer that...

2015-01-07 Thread Bob Evans
Thanks Jimmy - I agree - It's pretty much what we do today...it's just this one customer wanted Office 365 specific details. I don't think anyone knows. Including Microsoft, app creator. Wonder when Cloud providers get a clue, step up and help recommend a circuit size based on users and the

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread shawn wilson
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:22 PM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: ARIN, APNIC, and RIPE have prototypes already that are a lot easier to script than the text WHOIS. Meaning the data structure is in place or they have a RDAP service up? If so, is it publicly accessible?

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread shawn wilson
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:23 PM, John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: Google is your friend. Woops, you're right

Re: Office 365 Expert - I am not. I have a customer that...

2015-01-07 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Bob Evans b...@fiberinternetcenter.com wrote: [snip] Does anyone have any experience with Office 365 hosted that can tell me the practical bandwidth allocation (NOT in KB per month, but in Most likely in the real world where packets don't line up neatly... O365

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread anthony kasza
Scripting languages have modules that can parse many registrar whois formats. However, most are incomplete due to the plurality of output formats as stated above. I, and i suspect many others, wouls *love* to see a more concrete key value format drafted and enforced by ICANN. -AK On Jan 7, 2015

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 07/01/2015 20:07, Bill Woodcock wrote: Correct. It gets you a blob of text. Sometimes, a blob is just a blob. Other times, it contains what _appear_ to be key-value pairs, but are instead loosely-formatted text. Other times, it contains textually-represented key-value pairs that are

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread Rubens Kuhl
So, you’re not running into a poorly-documented mystery, you’ve run afoul of one of the rotten armpits of the shub-Internet. So there's no consensus between NICs for the information they should have in whois and what search mechanisms they should provide? I guess what you're saying is

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread shawn wilson
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:32 PM, anthony kasza anthony.ka...@gmail.com wrote: Scripting languages have modules that can parse many registrar whois formats. However, most are incomplete due to the plurality of output formats as stated above. I, and i suspect many others, wouls *love* to see a

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread shawn wilson
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Bill Woodcock wo...@pch.net wrote: So, you’re not running into a poorly-documented mystery, you’ve run afoul of one of the rotten armpits of the shub-Internet. So there's no consensus between NICs for the information they should have in whois and what search

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread Rubens Kuhl
This is not the response I was looking for (and reading the RFC makes me feel even worse). Is there a better mechanism for querying NICs for host/owner information? There will be, one day. And the start (although not the whole journey) will be when this I-D follows the standard path all the

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/7/15 12:48 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: On 07/01/2015 20:07, Bill Woodcock wrote: Correct. It gets you a blob of text. Sometimes, a blob is just a blob. Other times, it contains what _appear_ to be key-value pairs, but are instead loosely-formatted text. Other times, it contains

Re: Office 365 Expert - I am not. I have a customer that...

2015-01-07 Thread Bob Evans
Thanks to those of you that answered...It is hypotheticalHowever, I found another customer that uses Office 365 heavily ... said they discovered 1 meg/sec per Microsoft Office 365 user works well in most scenarios. This customer has 80 users and a 100 meg/sec connection with us. Thank You

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread shawn wilson
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Bill Woodcock wo...@pch.net wrote: On Jan 7, 2015, at 10:38 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a list of NIC (and other popular whois server) features (what can be searched on) and what data they provide (and what title they give it)? Heh,

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread Bill Woodcock
So, you’re not running into a poorly-documented mystery, you’ve run afoul of one of the rotten armpits of the shub-Internet. So there's no consensus between NICs for the information they should have in whois and what search mechanisms they should provide? I guess what you're saying is that

Re: something strange about bgp community

2015-01-07 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: 2914:429 is a community to signal to NTT to not announce the route to peers which would perhaps be why you don't see NTT doing that. it looks like this is the 'customer' of several networks (701, 2914) and they just

Re: something strange about bgp community

2015-01-07 Thread ML
Also note there is nothing stopping anyone from adding any community they want. The effect and how long the community stays attached to a route is another matter. On 1/7/2015 8:35 AM, Song Li wrote: Hi everyone, Today when I check one route in Routeviews I find something strange as

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread David Conrad
Hi, Scripting languages have modules that can parse many registrar whois formats. However, most are incomplete due to the plurality of output formats as stated above. I, and i suspect many others, wouls *love* to see a more concrete key value format drafted and enforced by ICANN. ICANN can

RADB

2015-01-07 Thread John East
Is there anyone from RADB or MerIt on this list that could contact me off the list? John

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread George Michaelson
CRISP is dead. RDAP is real. If people need to script, then RDAP is workable JSON and for once, has converged on sensible stuff in both names and numbers. the whois problem is a formalism owned by ICANN, but as DRC pointed out the WHOIS solution is dispersed. RPSL lies to one side btw. I wish

Re: something strange about bgp community

2015-01-07 Thread Song Li
Thanks! Because there is no standard syntax on the description of BGP community, I think the problem is hard to understand. 在 2015/1/7 23:25, joel jaeggli 写道: 2914:429 is ntt's do not advertise to any peer community bgp communities are transitive attributes, e.g. you can just pass them to

Security Track @ NANOG 63 Call for Participation

2015-01-07 Thread John Kristoff
[ Apologies if you saw this elsewhere already - jtk ] Friends, colleagues, fellow operators, The network security track, formerly known as the ISP security BoF, will be on the agenda at NANOG 63 in San Antonio and I will be the track facilitator. We not only seek your participation, but we are

Fwd: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread shawn wilson
Is there a list of NIC (and other popular whois server) features (what can be searched on) and what data they provide (and what title they give it)? A quick search yields: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-358 https://www.arin.net/resources/whoisrws/whois_diff.html

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Jan 7, 2015, at 10:38 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a list of NIC (and other popular whois server) features (what can be searched on) and what data they provide (and what title they give it)? Heh, heh, heh. There are just about as many whois output formats as

something strange about bgp community

2015-01-07 Thread Song Li
Hi everyone, Today when I check one route in Routeviews I find something strange as follows: route-viewssh ip bgp 176.108.0.0 BGP routing table entry for 176.108.0.0/19, version 23405621 Paths: (33 available, best #28, table default) Not advertised to any peer Refresh Epoch 1 202018

Re: something strange about bgp community

2015-01-07 Thread joel jaeggli
2914:429 is ntt's do not advertise to any peer community bgp communities are transitive attributes, e.g. you can just pass them to peers unmolested. so someone that's presumably not ntt ( e.g. the neighbor is digital ocean) is sending that commmunity to route views as part of their export.