Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 90, Issue 9

2015-07-11 Thread Roland Dobbins
On 11 Jul 2015, at 15:17, Ramy Hashish wrote: I mean, during the X minutes (between detection and mitigation), the scrubbing center will be sending both legitimate and illegitimate traffic to the customer Your assumption that there is a delay between diversion and mitigation is not a

Re: ISP DHCPv6 and /48

2015-07-11 Thread Baldur Norddahl
On 10 July 2015 at 13:30, John Curran jcur...@istaff.org wrote: Baldur - I am not aware of the RIPE practices with respect to IPv6 end-user assignments, but in the ARIN region, ISPs/LIR's make assignments to end users based on similar practices that the community adopted for

Re: Hotels/Airports with IPv6

2015-07-11 Thread Mel Beckman
Owen, Lol. No, I'm a Mac guy. We think different :) I suppose when an airport is first built, that would be greenfield. But this airport already has a legacy wifi system that we are replacing, incrementally. I agree that a case exists for building in IPv6 from the start, but this deployment

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 90, Issue 9

2015-07-11 Thread Ramy Hashish
This is not what you were asking about in your original post on this topic - you were talking about BGP sessions inside GRE tunnels, which is not how most (any?) DDoS mitigation services operate, to my knowledge. GRE is used over the Internet for many different applications, including

Re: ISP DHCPv6 and /48

2015-07-11 Thread Baldur Norddahl
On 10 July 2015 at 15:21, George, Wes wesley.geo...@twcable.com wrote: On 7/10/15, 6:34 AM, NANOG on behalf of Baldur Norddahl nanog-boun...@nanog.org on behalf of baldur.nordd...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps the problem is that DHCPv6-PD is not intelligent enough. Yes there is a provision such

Re: AW: Level3 routing issue US west coast

2015-07-11 Thread joel jaeggli
On 7/10/15 7:54 AM, Jürgen Jaritsch wrote: Wow Level3 responded to me that they had an issue last night but they simply did nothing ... for at least 10 hours they did nothing to fix the issue: It's more likely that there's a certain amount of nonsense and a lot of loose ends in

Re: ISP DHCPv6 and /48

2015-07-11 Thread Oliver O'Boyle
That said this really isn't your problem. It is their problem. Marc, Your response surprises me a bit. I wish more ISP would consider their customer's use cases more thoroughly and aim to address them as best as possible. Regional differences in expectations are reasonable and provide a

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-11 Thread Dovid Bender
Juniper MX5 r...@yyy.xx.net show ntp status status=06a4 leap_none, sync_ntp, 10 events, event_peer/strat_chg, version=ntpd 4.2.0-a Thu Mar 13 08:29:55 UTC 2014 (1), processor=powerpc, system=JUNOS12.3R6.6, leap=00, stratum=3, precision=-18, rootdelay=90.375, rootdispersion=20.620, peer=29748,

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-11 Thread Harlan Stenn
Dovid, Thanks, and I'm kinda stunned that folks are running such ancient versions of NTP. https://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/ReleaseTimeline 4.2.0 was EOL'd in June of 2006, and we've fixed about 3,000 issues in the codebase since then. H On 7/11/15 7:58 PM, Dovid Bender wrote: Juniper MX5

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-11 Thread Dovid Bender
You would need to ask Juniper that On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Harlan Stenn st...@nwtime.org wrote: Dovid, Thanks, and I'm kinda stunned that folks are running such ancient versions of NTP. https://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/ReleaseTimeline 4.2.0 was EOL'd in June of 2006,

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-11 Thread Harlan Stenn
We will. But we're going to be asking them for support for network time. Folks like you are probably paying them for support. They'll listen more to people like you. This goes to *all* vendors who embed NTP in their products, we're not interested in in picking on anybody here. H -- On 7/11/15

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-11 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 12/07/15 13:17, Harlan Stenn wrote: Dovid, Thanks, and I'm kinda stunned that folks are running such ancient versions of NTP. https://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/ReleaseTimeline 4.2.0 was EOL'd in June of 2006, and we've fixed about 3,000 issues in the codebase since then. Juniper have

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-11 Thread Harlan Stenn
Harlan Stenn writes: We will. But we're going to be asking them for support for network time. Folks like you are probably paying them for support. They'll listen more to people like you. This goes to *all* vendors who embed NTP in their products, we're not interested in in picking on

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-11 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 07/11/2015 08:17 PM, Harlan Stenn wrote: Thanks, and I'm kinda stunned that folks are running such ancient versions of NTP. https://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/ReleaseTimeline 4.2.0 was EOL'd in June of 2006, and we've fixed about 3,000 issues in the codebase since then. I used to do a

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-11 Thread Harlan Stenn
Resending... On 7/10/15 12:29 PM, Harlan Stenn wrote: I'm trying to build a list of the versions of NTP that are in active use on various active pieces of network gear. I know that Cisco, for example, uses NTP in around 10 different product lines, but I don't know what versions of NTP are

Re: Level3 routing issue US west coast

2015-07-11 Thread Mr. NPP
We took them down yesterday, and attempted to bring them back up midnight PST, and still massive packet loss. so they remain down for now. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Jürgen Jaritsch j...@anexia.at wrote: Hi, No SLA broken cause A- and B-End were not directly our circuits ... but it

Re: ISP DHCPv6 and /48

2015-07-11 Thread Mark Andrews
In message capkb-7aice0dsgcc+w7c7r3oswp_n_sn8m0n306mjx1bgc3...@mail.gmail.com , Baldur Norddahl writes: On 10 July 2015 at 13:30, John Curran jcur...@istaff.org wrote: Baldur - I am not aware of the RIPE practices with respect to IPv6 end-user assignments, but in the ARIN

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-11 Thread Colin Johnston
ntpd - NTP daemon program - Ver. 4.2.6 Colins-iMac:~ colinj$ uname -a Darwin Colins-iMac.home 15.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 15.0.0: Sun Jun 28 00:25:56 PDT 2015; root:xnu-3247.1.36~7/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64 (10.11 osx el capitan) -bash-4.2$ uname -a Linux oraclelinux 3.8.13-68.1.2.el7uek.x86_64 #2