Re: Recent trouble with QUIC?

2015-09-25 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 9/25/15 5:43 PM, Stephen Satchell wrote: On 09/25/2015 04:20 PM, Ca By wrote: RFO: Google unilaterally deployed a non-standard protocol to our production environment, driving up helpdesk calls x% After action: block udp 80/443 until production ready and standard ratified use deployed.

Re: Recent trouble with QUIC?

2015-09-25 Thread Sean Hunter
These are all interesting viewpoints. Personally, I was only surprised that Google didn't: A) identify the issue during early rollout (starting Sept 9) when Google has specifically talked up to the community their tooling for monitoring QUIC changes B) catch what seems like a pretty basic bug

Re: GeoIP information

2015-09-25 Thread Clay Curtis
I don't believe anyone is actually using the LOC RR, but maybe I'm wrong. This seems like the best way to store this type of data. I could see CDNs being able to leverage this along with edns-client-subnet to decrease page load times significantly. How is this still an issue? I mean, we have

Re: GeoIP information

2015-09-25 Thread Josh Luthman
With a new block it took less than a week. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 25, 2015 11:36 AM, "Baldur Norddahl" wrote: > You will find that it takes years before every site out there updated their >

Re: GeoIP information

2015-09-25 Thread Ray Van Dolson
I don't believe anyone is either. We looked at it as well and after reviewing logs from our authoritative DNS server responsible for our in-addr.arpa zones, we saw zero queries for LOC records. Ray On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:43:13AM -0400, Clay Curtis wrote: > I don't believe anyone is actually

Re: GeoIP information

2015-09-25 Thread Baldur Norddahl
You will find that it takes years before every site out there updated their copy of whatever geo database they are using. Regards Baldur

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

2015-09-25 Thread Joe Greco
> > And this may trigger a refresh on routers, as people old or refurbed > > equipment find they need to change. The whole reason for the inertia > > against going to IPv6 is "it ain't broke, so I not gonna 'fix' it." > > Yea, well, it would be nice if upgrading existing home routers > remained

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

2015-09-25 Thread Joe Greco
> > The question really at hand: what happens when you need to host a new=20= > > > pile of servers, need/can-justify a /24, and your hosting provider=20 > > quotes you $2560/month just for the IP space (at $10/IP)? > > You probably laugh and go to some other provider or BYOA from a broker.

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

2015-09-25 Thread Dave Bell
On 25 September 2015 at 02:57, wrote: > On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 16:39:54 -0700, Michael Thomas said: >> That will be pretty interesting for anybody who's using aws as their >> server infrastructure since aws is >> still v6 useless last i heard. > > I wonder if a sudden

Re: GeoIP information

2015-09-25 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 10:43:13 -0400, Clay Curtis said: > I don't believe anyone is actually using the LOC RR, but maybe I'm wrong. > This seems like the best way to store this type of data. I could see CDNs > being able to leverage this along with edns-client-subnet to decrease page > load times

Re: GeoIP information

2015-09-25 Thread Roland Dobbins
On 25 Sep 2015, at 23:44, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: Which is why Akamai (and any other *sane* CDN) make their decisions based on network topology, not physical location +1 --- Roland Dobbins

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-25 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 23/09/2015 10:34, Nick Hilliard wrote: > What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? Summarising, people seem to use a wide variety of kit: Ear muffs: - 3M Peltor Shotgunner Hearing Protector - 3M Peltor Optime Acoustic headsets: - 3M Peltor

Re: GeoIP information

2015-09-25 Thread Clay Curtis
You're example is one specific case. I'm not advocating that it works in every case, or that geo-location should be used in routing decisions exclusively. I have dealt with cases in which a CDN responded to a client request with a resource on another continent, thus having to cross an ocean and

Re: GeoIP information

2015-09-25 Thread Baldur Norddahl
On 25 September 2015 at 17:52, Josh Luthman wrote: > With a new block it took less than a week. > > On Sep 25, 2015 11:36 AM, "Baldur Norddahl" > wrote: > >> You will find that it takes years before every site out there updated >> their >>

Re: GeoIP information

2015-09-25 Thread Jeroen Wunnink
It'd really help if some larger content providers would give LIR's some tools to effectively manage GeoTargeting within IP allocations and the subnets therein that they own. In my experience it takes anywhere between 2 weeks and 6 month to get IP blocks effectively Geo-targeted. Google is one of

Re: GeoIP information

2015-09-25 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 13:39:22 -0400, Clay Curtis said: > exclusively. I have dealt with cases in which a CDN responded to a client > request with a resource on another continent, thus having to cross an ocean > and adding considerable latency, when there was a POP on that continent. And what was

Weekly Routing Table Report

2015-09-25 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net For

Re: Synful Knock questions...

2015-09-25 Thread Jake Mertel
Looks like Cisco's Talos just released a tool to scan your network for indications of the SYNful Knock malware. Details @ http://talosintel.com/scanner/ . -- Regards, Jake Mertel Ubiquity Hosting *Web: *https://www.ubiquityhosting.com *Phone (direct): *1-480-478-1510 *Mail:* 5350 East High

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

2015-09-25 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 05:04 , Joe Greco wrote: > >>> The question really at hand: what happens when you need to host a new=20= >> >>> pile of servers, need/can-justify a /24, and your hosting provider=20 >>> quotes you $2560/month just for the IP space (at $10/IP)? >> >>

BGP Update Report

2015-09-25 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 17-Sep-15 -to- 24-Sep-15 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS9829 174784 3.8% 121.8 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone,IN 2 - AS21669

Re: Recent trouble with QUIC?

2015-09-25 Thread Cody Grosskopf
a) yes, 56,000 students and any on Chrome failed. I immediately blocked quic and told users to restart Chrome. Luckily the fallback to good ol' tcp saved the day. b) I had this issue a few months ago and it subsided quickly Google reports it's an issue in this version of Chrome and the next

The Cidr Report

2015-09-25 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Sep 25 21:15:27 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

Recent trouble with QUIC?

2015-09-25 Thread Ca By
On Friday, September 25, 2015, Cody Grosskopf > wrote: > a) yes, 56,000 students and any on Chrome failed. I immediately blocked > quic and told users to restart Chrome. Luckily the fallback to good ol' tcp > saved

Re: Recent trouble with QUIC?

2015-09-25 Thread chris
This reminds me of something I ran into where I came to a similar conclusion. We had a customer who used google ad and docs products very heavily and all of a sudden they started getting captchas on accessing any google property. When we reached out to google we were told that they were

Re: Recent trouble with QUIC?

2015-09-25 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 09/25/2015 04:20 PM, Ca By wrote: RFO: Google unilaterally deployed a non-standard protocol to our production environment, driving up helpdesk calls x% After action: block udp 80/443 until production ready and standard ratified use deployed. Let me be gentle about this. Why were you

Malware? Spammer?

2015-09-25 Thread Larry Sheldon
Does NANOG have a problem, or do I have a more local masquerader? -- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: GeoIP information

2015-09-25 Thread Fred Hollis
It is a big pain to do so. We did a couple of times in the past and always took us many months. On 25.09.2015 at 03:48 Ian Clark wrote: Is there anyone here who has successfully changed their GeoIP data for a subset of their ARIN allocation? How do service providers get all the GeoIP companies

Re: GeoIP information

2015-09-25 Thread Fred Hollis
> They could purchase sales records from online retailers. Hey guys, > give us the IP address, city, state and zip code for each sale; we'll > pay you a nickle each. Then correlate that with BGP announcements that > show the range of impacted addresses. After looking more into the geo ip topic,

Re: GeoIP information

2015-09-25 Thread Christian Teuschel
We have been using Maxmind's open source data set [0] on RIPEstat [1] now for quite a while and there have been quite many user complaints about the correctness of the location or the recency of the data. One reason can be that [0] is updated/released only once a month, usually beginning of the

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

2015-09-25 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Sep 24, 2015, at 15:57 , Joe Greco wrote: > >> According to http://business.comcast.com/internet/business-internet/static-= >> ip >> Comcast charges $19.95 per month for one static IPv4 address. > > High dollar amounts for a single static IPv4 address are nothing new, >

Re: GeoIP information

2015-09-25 Thread Stephen Satchell
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1876 (EXPERIMENTAL) There appears to be a way of associating a subnet in the IN-ADDR.ARPA domain to a FQDN, which could then be queries for LOC data. For single addresses, the domain owner could opt to include location data for their domain. For subnets, the

Re: GeoIP information

2015-09-25 Thread Roland Dobbins
On 25 Sep 2015, at 14:22, Fred Hollis wrote: See big telco's announcing /12's and having these IPs spread all over the country. All over the *world*. --- Roland Dobbins

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

2015-09-25 Thread Tony Finch
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > > I wonder if a sudden exodus of customers whose iOS app got axed > because it can't contact an aws-hosted server from an IPv6-only > network will be enough to get their attention Maybe they'll just proxy via CloudFlare to AWS. Tony.